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mwalling
Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:19 am Post subject: Re: 64-bit domU support? |
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zunzun wrote: I was wrong, actually Macs use 64 1/2-bit CPUs to reach 32 bits - sorry, my mistake. Windows can't run on 1/2-bit CPUs, so *that* is why XP won't run on Macs.
http://www.onmac.net/
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LoganTheRed
Joined: 15 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:49 am Post subject: Re: 64-bit domU support? |
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zunzun wrote: bdonlan wrote: model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5335 @ 2.00GHz
Xeons are 8-bit CPU's, that's why the server needs 4 of them: 8 * 4 = 32, so that the server can run a 32-bit operating system. I learned that from my years at Microsoft, don't you Linux guys know anything about computers? Macs have 32 1-bit CPU's which is why thay can't run Windows, a lot of people don't know that.
James
zunzun wrote: mwalling wrote: Would you like to provide some sources to back this statement up?
I was wrong, actually Macs use 64 1/2-bit CPUs to reach 32 bits - sorry, my mistake. Windows can't run on 1/2-bit CPUs, so *that* is why XP won't run on Macs. I stand corrected.
James
Please, please please tell me you were saying this as a joke. I know it's early, I haven't had caffeine yet, and it's the start of a long day and possibly a long weekend, but I can very easily imagine people believing that. Please put my bootable install of XP on my MacBook Pro at ease, please put the install of XP on my girlfriend's Mac Mini at ease, and please put the Vista Ultimate 64bit install on the Mac Pro at the shop I frequent down the street at ease. |
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zunzun
Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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Location: Birmingham, Alabama USA
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: Re: 64-bit domU support? |
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LoganTheRed wrote: Please, please please tell me you were saying this as a joke.
If you tell me where I can purchase 1/2-bit CPUs, I'll say it was a joke. Deal?
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LoganTheRed
Joined: 15 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: 64-bit domU support? |
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zunzun wrote: LoganTheRed wrote: Please, please please tell me you were saying this as a joke.
If you tell me where I can purchase 1/2-bit CPUs, I'll say it was a joke. Deal?
James
A half bit CPU? A HALF BIT processor? What in blazes is a HALF-BIT processor? Is that like it can process a On or a Zer but not a One or a Zero? You have no idea what you're talking about. Macs all run 64 bit, X86-64 chips. They run Windows. I can reboot into my Windows partition on my Macintosh laptop here and post again if you like. |
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zunzun
Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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Location: Birmingham, Alabama USA
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: 64-bit domU support? |
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LoganTheRed wrote: You have no idea what you're talking about.
I never actually worked at Microsoft. If I HAD worked there, though, my guess is that my posts could have been serious - that's the joke. My apologies for the posts, they were made in jest.
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SteveG
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| James, don't apologize. I was amused. And I'm not sure even now whether your respondents actually fell for it, or were just trolling back at you. Either way, it's funny as all get out. |
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mwalling
Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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i fell for it... i read it before finishing coffee consumption...
zunzun: bastard |
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zunzun
Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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mwalling wrote: zunzun: bastard
I still say that Windows won't run on a 1/2-bit CPU.
James
P.S. on 1/2-bit CPUs, all data are represented by unary - as opposed to binary - numbers. Instead of ones and zeros, or yes and no, it's all maybe. Unary 1/2 bit CPUs appear to run infinitely fast, since the output of every program - no matter how complicated - is always 0.5. |
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Stever
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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Location: NC, USA
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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zunzun wrote: Instead of ones and zeros, or yes and no, it's all maybe.
That sure sounds like windows compatibility to me. |
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bdonlan
Joined: 22 Jan 2008
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zunzun wrote: mwalling wrote: zunzun: bastard
I still say that Windows won't run on a 1/2-bit CPU.
James
P.S. on 1/2-bit CPUs, all data are represented by unary - as opposed to binary - numbers. Instead of ones and zeros, or yes and no, it's all maybe. Unary 1/2 bit CPUs appear to run infinitely fast, since the output of every program - no matter how complicated - is always 0.5.
Assuming, of course, the program halts. Of course, since the data store of a 1/2 bit computer has only one state, we can trivially determine if the program halts by running it until it reaches an earlier point in its program (this assumes its program is something actually useful; ie, it's not a von neumann architecture and program is not data). Therfore, this 1/2 bit computer is not turing complete, and therefore, I submit, not truly deserving of the name 'computer' at all. |
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zunzun
Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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Stever wrote: zunzun wrote: Instead of ones and zeros, or yes and no, it's all maybe.
That sure sounds like windows compatibility to me.
Once again, I stand corrected. My hat is off to you, sir.
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mwalling
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| i had my coffee this morning before reading this thread... |
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