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MrRx7



Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 31
Location: Austin, Tx

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:54 am    Post subject:  

I would like a Euro based DC.

Just over half of my member base is UK based.
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coolestuk



Joined: 01 May 2008
Posts: 3

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject:  

zeroday wrote: I would move my Linode ASAP if they opened in Europe.
As much as I enjoy my Linode, crappy routing between my ISP and the US means I get disconnected quite often from SSH and irc.

I have a business plan that would involve me deploying several hundred Linodes. However, at the moment I'm considering setting up my own VPS servers because the routes from the UK to the US are flaky. If Linode.com had a european datacentre, then I would prefer that to setting up my own VPS infrastructure.

I can imagine it would be more complex to set up a european operation, but rsync.net manage to have worldwide geographic redundancy (US, middle east, switzerland).
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Loccy



Joined: 09 Aug 2008
Posts: 5

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject:  

I'd move to a UK based Linode, but probably would be less interested in a mainland Europe option. My connectivity to the States is probably better than to mainland Europe and, in all honest, I have absolutely no complaints with being hosted in Newark.
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m0



Joined: 20 Aug 2008
Posts: 1

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject:  

I would buy a linode as well. I heard Netherlands has the best routing within europe.
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Daniel_G



Joined: 09 Aug 2008
Posts: 7
Location: Scotland, UK

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject:  

m0 wrote: I would buy a linode as well. I heard Netherlands has the best routing within europe.

I rented a VPS from a company who had a DC in the Netherlands, and the speeds were blazing (I'm in the UK).

If Linode setup in Europe, I would transfer over in a heartbeat. I would even be prepared to pay a little more for it...
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coolestuk



Joined: 01 May 2008
Posts: 3

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:50 am    Post subject:  

What amazes me about so many companies offering VPS is that they do so little to justify confidence in them up front. None seem to have anything equivalent to the Linode management tools (some seem to offer no self-management tools at all). Almost all of Linode's competitors offer no geographic distribution of data centers. Very few offer the range of distros that Linode offers. Many have 'latest news' or 'service announcements' on their front pages that say things like 'December 2006...', which makes it look like the company is actually moribund and forgot to take down their website. Most don't have resources like the IRC channel, where everytime I've had an issue, I've popped in there and had a knowledgeable answer within 2 minutes.

Not just that, but most of them are actually worse value for money.

Go Linode - you're leaving your competitors in the dust!
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Tangy



Joined: 24 Aug 2008
Posts: 3
Location: UK

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject:  

I did have a Linode in the past, just came checking back to see if there has been any European developments on the DC options front and stumbled on this!

If the option to have a vps in Europe, i would already be a customer, left linode behind before due to shoddy latency to usa from uk... would be fantastic if this were an option! :idea:
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pclissold



Joined: 24 Oct 2003
Posts: 471
Location: Netherlands

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:29 am    Post subject:  

Tangy wrote: … left linode behind before due to shoddy latency to usa from uk … The situation in Europe has been improved by the deployment of Linode hosts in Newark, New Jersey - ping times of around 150 ms.
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Tangy



Joined: 24 Aug 2008
Posts: 3
Location: UK

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:20 am    Post subject:  

Quote: The situation in Europe has been improved by the deployment of Linode hosts in Newark, New Jersey - ping times of around 150 ms.

Yeah i checked out ping times from my box in london, pretty good actually 95ms average, may well test this new DC out see how it goes.

Thanks for the tip!
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Tangy



Joined: 24 Aug 2008
Posts: 3
Location: UK

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject:  

Tangy wrote: Quote: The situation in Europe has been improved by the deployment of Linode hosts in Newark, New Jersey - ping times of around 150 ms.

Yeah i checked out ping times from my box in london, pretty good actually 95ms average, may well test this new DC out see how it goes.

Thanks for the tip!

Just to follow up on this, whether anyone finds the info useful or not remains to be seen...trying out one of these currently in newark, running a teamspeak server for testing, and all my uk clients sitting pretty between 60 -70ms pings, which is only about 20ms above uk and 10ms above servers in the Netherlands from the uk. So it's not bad at all.

But still if there were a european option i'd probably take it, just to have the little bit better latency, but this certainly isn't to be sniffed at! but for now makes hosting with linode possible, which is great!
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Daniel_G



Joined: 09 Aug 2008
Posts: 7
Location: Scotland, UK

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject:  

Tangy wrote: Just to follow up on this, whether anyone finds the info useful or not remains to be seen...trying out one of these currently in newark, running a teamspeak server for testing, and all my uk clients sitting pretty between 60 -70ms pings, which is only about 20ms above uk and 10ms above servers in the Netherlands from the uk. So it's not bad at all.

I (normally) get capped out download speeds when I download from my Newark linode (I'm in the UK).

Tangy wrote: But still if there were a european option i'd probably take it, just to have the little bit better latency, but this certainly isn't to be sniffed at! but for now makes hosting with linode possible, which is great!

Agreed.
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JackBlack



Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Posts: 1
Location: Scotland

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject:  

90% of my viewers are in the UK as am I but I have always found performance ok and honestly forget the server is so far away.

I am torn as to whether I would really prefer a European VPS given it would probably cost at least %50 more, on the other hand i'd love to set up a Team Fortress 2 server and the ping to the US would be just too much for that :D
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jani



Joined: 07 Sep 2008
Posts: 1

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:57 am    Post subject: privacy matters  

As a matter of fact, I don't expect to have so many much customers in europe than in from america in the long run. I don't really consider ping times, so my vote is not so much for europe as it is for a country with laws that allow privacy. Please consider that when you choose a country in Europe. I vote against UK.
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mjrich



Joined: 16 Jun 2008
Posts: 6

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject:  

Yes -- I'd almost certainly open up another linode, if it was in a data safe country. These seem to be in increasingly short supply these days.
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