--- Day changed --- Log opened Fri May 23 23:59:01 2008 00:14 -!- irgeek [~irgeek@166.128.33.144] has quit [Quit: irgeek] 00:20 -!- dillytaint [~dillytain@CPE-76-92-146-38.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:25 -!- dillytaint [~dillytain@CPE-76-92-146-38.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 00:31 -!- parao [~robert@118.103.180.141] has joined #linode 00:32 -!- parao [~robert@118.103.180.141] has quit [] 00:33 -!- jm [~fake@c-76-113-194-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:36 -!- irgeek [~irgeek@166.128.137.193] has joined #linode 00:43 -!- Sindacious [~Xenu@12-214-171-98.client.mchsi.com] has joined #linode 00:55 -!- sveiss [~sveiss@2001:470:1f09:2a4:21b:63ff:fe1b:abd3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:58 -!- Dreamer3 [~Dreamer3@74-129-225-206.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59 -!- Dreamer3 [~Dreamer3@74-129-225-206.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #linode 01:06 -!- Eleo [~user@adsl-69-212-158-145.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has quit [] 01:09 -!- icebrian [~icebrian@a213-22-63-22.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:18 -!- arooni_ [~arooni__@c-67-168-26-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 01:25 -!- arooni_ [~arooni__@c-67-168-26-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:27 -!- arooni_ [~arooni__@c-67-168-26-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 01:33 -!- exor|gone is now known as exor|zzz 01:33 -!- dillytai1t [~dillytain@CPE-76-92-146-38.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 01:33 -!- dillytaint [~dillytain@CPE-76-92-146-38.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:41 -!- tsp_ [~tyler@S0106001310788ff0.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #linode 01:56 -!- arooni_ [~arooni__@c-67-168-26-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:56 -!- arooni_ [~arooni__@c-67-168-26-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 02:04 -!- spasmfac_ [~spasm@r220-101-90-128.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #linode 02:04 -!- spasmface [~spasm@r220-101-90-128.cpe.unwired.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11 -!- yani [~4b2ab3b4@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 02:12 -!- yani [~4b2ab3b4@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:16 < irgeek> This place sure is quiet on a Friday night. People must have lives or something. 02:17 < irgeek> I'd like to have a life, but my apartment is time. I'd have nowhere to keep it when I wasn't using it. 02:18 -!- cw3 [~ubuntu@nj-76-1-244-175.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #linode 02:22 < cw3> Is there any safeguard for utilizing too much bandwidth? I just noted the node was down until i restarted it. 02:23 < cw3> i ended up incorrectly setting an application that caused the alloted space to be utilized very quickly and then some (209%). 02:24 < bd_> cw3: You could run something on the node itself, watching the XML bandwidth stats thingy. And the bw stuff isn't a hard limit, but 209% is pushing it a bit I guess >_>;; 02:24 < cw3> yea, that is what i figured. 02:24 -!- spasmfac_ [~spasm@r220-101-90-128.cpe.unwired.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:25 < cw3> my concern is mostly why the node went down. i don't think it was actually down though other than not being able to connect to it. 02:25 -!- spasmface [~spasm@r220-101-90-128.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #linode 02:25 < bd_> cw3: check the lish log maybe 02:25 < bd_> (logview command) 02:25 < cw3> the whole screw up had to do with the debian security fiasco. 02:26 < bd_> that'll show you if any kernel messages popped up anyway 02:26 < bd_> how oO 02:28 < cw3> yea, well the debian vulnerability effected a program i was running and i think i deleted a configuration file, then incorrectly (or possibly correctly set) it up again. i think the problem may have been i didn't reload/restart the service. the default settings was no limit on bandwidth usage and since it'll utilize as much bandwidth as is available we ended up utilizing allot of bandwidth in a day or two. 02:28 < bob2> the openssl vulnerability? 02:29 < cw3> yea 02:30 < cw3> is there a reason i haven't been charged for excessive bandwidth before? i really love linode. 02:31 < bd_> cw3: they handle overage manually on a case by case basis 02:31 < cw3> i usually have it set to ensure it stays within the paid for limit. 02:31 < cw3> i got ya. 02:32 < bd_> might want to put in a preemptive ticket explaning the situation 02:32 < cw3> well, the money is well spent given the bandwidth is more of a donation to a worthwhile project. 02:33 < cw3> aww, you mean a support ticket? 02:34 < bd_> Well, unless you decided to just add extra bandwidth, cleverly avoiding the overage situation in the first place :P 02:34 < cw3> i don't really have a problem paying for it.. it was my mistake. 02:34 < bd_> fair enough 02:34 < cw3> actually - is the overage more expensive than normal charge for it? 02:34 < cw3> i'm not exactly a rich man. 02:35 < bd_> cw3: I don't know how they handle overages normally :) 02:35 < cw3> ok- fair enough. 02:36 < bd_> I do know buying extra bandwidth on an ongoing basis is more expensive than just upgrading your plan. Or rather, it's the same price, but your other specs go up too with a plan upgrade 02:36 < bd_> but if it's just for one month's mistake, *shrug* 02:38 < cw3> yea, i can't imagine it'll kill me. 02:52 -!- xitology [~xi@78.31.182.24] has joined #linode 03:02 -!- TJF [~TJF_GN@pat.foulston.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:22 -!- Syrus [~Syrus2@2001:5c0:9b38::8] has joined #linode 03:26 -!- NeonNero [neonnero@home.neonnero.net] has quit [Quit: A fool and his money are soon... Hey! Where's my wallet?] 03:26 -!- r3z` [~r3z@c-68-58-96-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:26 -!- r3z` [~r3z@c-68-58-96-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #linode 03:30 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:52 -!- bob2 [rob@egads.ertius.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:54 -!- bob2 [rob@egads.ertius.org] has joined #linode 04:00 < Syrus> Hello, is anyone here? 04:02 < cw3> yes 04:03 < Syrus> Hi, could you help me try to figure something out? 04:05 < cw3> maybe. what are you trying to figure out 04:07 < Syrus> Well, the other day i had bought a second IP address. Well, i had it set up and runing fine, and just a few minutes ago out of no where my 1st one stoped responding to me, but allows others to ping it and what not. The linode website has also stoped working for me as well. The new IP i had gotten, still works for some reason. 04:07 < lotuslnd> omg your slice hijacked the linode site! 04:07 < bd_> linode.com works for me 04:08 < cw3> haha- i think he was joking. 04:08 < bd_> maybe there's some routing issues between your home computer and your server? 04:08 < bd_> what are the IPs in question? 04:08 < Syrus> Yes, i have had others tell me the same about the linode site. 04:08 < Syrus> second 04:08 < cw3> what is the ip? i'll see if i can ssh 04:08 < bd_> also, get a mtr --report to each of them 04:08 < bd_> and the linode.com site 04:08 < lotuslnd> i'm just kidding :) 04:09 < Syrus> mtr report? 04:09 < cw3> linode is accessible to me.. 04:09 < Syrus> 70.87.222.178 is the one that does not work for me 04:09 < bd_> Syrus: what OS is your home/work/wherever you are right now computer running? 04:09 < Syrus> Windows XP 04:09 < bd_> http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/ <-- 04:10 < bd_> run that against the working and the non-working IP 04:10 < cw3> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ssh root@70.87.222.178 04:10 < cw3> The authenticity of host '70.87.222.178 (70.87.222.178)' can't be established. 04:10 < cw3> RSA key fingerprint is 2d:9c:92:73:0b:e5:ec:24:54:a4:94:70:20:29:b4:01. 04:10 < cw3> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes 04:10 < cw3> Warning: Permanently added '70.87.222.178' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. 04:10 < cw3> Password: 04:10 < bd_> and paste it in pastebin.com 04:10 < bd_> and yes, I can route to 70.87.222.178 without issues 04:10 < bd_> wait 04:10 < bd_> well, port 80's closed 04:10 < Syrus> Yes, others have said the same, but it just stoped for me for some reason. 04:10 < bd_> maybe that's the problem :P 04:10 -!- ondrej [~ondra@ip4-83-240-41-73.cust.nbox.cz] has joined #linode 04:10 < Syrus> I have nothing runing on port 80 04:11 < bd_> Syrus: okay. Then, grab winmtr, run it against each of the working and non-working IP, and paste it in pastebin.com for analysis 04:11 < bd_> then copy the pastebin link for here 04:11 < Syrus> ok 04:11 < bd_> what's probably happened is a routing issue cropped up between your home and linodea 04:11 < bd_> and only affects some subnets 04:14 < encode> are both IPs in the same subnet? 04:15 < Syrus> one is 69.56.251.223 and the other is 70.87.222.178 04:16 < encode> do you have gateways defined for both? 04:16 < Syrus> what do you mean? (it's late and i have been up for some time now) 04:18 < encode> never mind, just do what bd_ was telling you 04:18 < Syrus> ugh, now WinMTR does not seem to be working. 04:19 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@91.148.112.153] has joined #linode 04:22 < cw3> hey Syrus can you access 64.5.53.209? 04:23 -!- arooni_ [~arooni__@c-67-168-26-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:23 < Syrus> Doesn't look like it 04:24 < cw3> interesting 04:24 < Syrus> nope, i can't. 04:24 < bd_> Syrus: What does 'does not seem to be working' mean? 04:24 < cw3> i think we might be having the same problem 04:25 < cw3> i didn't notice it because i can access it without any issues 04:25 < Syrus> When i enter an address where it says "Host:", and click start, it just sits. 04:25 < cw3> but... another server appears to be unable to access my server 04:26 < bd_> Syrus: interesting. Try disabling resolve hosts in options 04:26 < bd_> er, resolve names* 04:27 < Syrus> Still nothing. 04:29 < bd_> huh. weird 04:29 < bd_> I use the linux console version, so maybe there's some trick to it, I don't know :/ 04:30 < bd_> hm, 4:30am, need to sleep :| 04:30 < bd_> it's probably some weird routing issue with your ISP, as I said, give it a few hours, or see if someone knows how to work WinMTR :/ 04:30 < Syrus> ok 04:37 -!- elky [~melissa@symposium.elkbuntu.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:37 -!- elky [~melissa@symposium.elkbuntu.net] has joined #linode 04:38 < lotuslnd> how long does it take for a PTR to set? i set it about 12 hours ago and it still doesn't resolve. 04:39 < SpaceHobo> lotuslnd: negative caching ftl 04:39 < SpaceHobo> lotuslnd: which IP? 04:40 < lotuslnd> what are linode's name servers? 04:40 < Internat> ns1.linode.com and ns2.linode.com 04:41 < lotuslnd> ah, ok ... but the PTR exists on NS1.HE.NET 04:44 -!- andrew_j_w [~andrew@88-97-29-168.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #linode 04:52 < SpaceHobo> reverse isn't the same as forward 04:52 < SpaceHobo> HE own the IP 04:52 < SpaceHobo> it's not a PI IP 04:52 < lotuslnd> pi? 04:53 < SpaceHobo> provider-independent 04:53 < lotuslnd> i know, it's at he 04:53 < SpaceHobo> it's PA, which is Provider-Assigned 04:53 < lotuslnd> they handle dns for it 04:55 -!- Bdragon28 [~Bdragon@dpc6746139138.direcpc.com] has joined #linode 04:55 -!- mattt416 [~mattt@65.49.60.103] has joined #linode 04:55 -!- Bdragon [~Bdragon@dpc6746139138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:55 -!- Bdragon28 is now known as Bdragon 04:56 -!- lotuslnd [~mattt@lnx1.defunct.ca] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:06 -!- cw3 [~ubuntu@nj-76-1-244-175.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 05:18 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@194.213.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:31 -!- Deetz [~Paul@host185.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #linode 05:51 -!- Syrus [~Syrus2@2001:5c0:9b38::8] has quit [Quit: .] 06:13 < spasmface> anyone here interested in converting a .htaccess (mod_rewrite) into lighttpd format? I'll Pay 06:22 < peleg> ping to my domain works really well, but ssh into my domain works now extremely slow; sometimes a few minutes before it asks for password. after I am logged, I have huge delays while typing in the remote shell. How can i check if the problem is here or on the server? 06:22 < peleg> Sometimes I can't really type anything for a minute or two. 06:23 < mattt416> peleng: where are you located and where's the server? 06:24 < bob2> and does ping show reasonable times? 06:24 < bob2> and are delays during login associated with delays after (during-only could mean a dns issue) 06:27 < spasmface> im in australia and im good 06:28 < Deckert> peleg: which DC are you in? 06:28 < peleg> Deckert: what is DC ? 06:28 < Deckert> peleg: data centre 06:28 < peleg> oh. how can I know that? 06:28 < Deckert> peleg: it shows on the dashboard ... 06:29 < Deckert> your host will be either in fremont, dallas or he 06:29 < peleg> you meand that: Dallas, TX, USA ? 06:29 < Deckert> peleg: yup ... 06:29 < bob2> ssh latency from .au to dallas is not bad 06:29 < Deckert> peleg: what is your server's IP? 06:29 < Deckert> bob2: yah, l;atency from South Africa to Dallas is also the best fo the three DCs 06:29 < peleg> 67.18.186.248 06:30 < Deckert> peleg: your server is fine .. 06:30 < peleg> I see. 06:30 < Deckert> get <1ms response times 06:31 < Deckert> peleg: what is the response times of you ping from where you are? 06:31 < Deckert> *are 06:31 < peleg> this is my tracepath: http://pastebin.com/m29516b8d 06:31 < peleg> pings: less than 130 ms 06:31 < Deckert> peleg: any packet-loss? 06:32 < peleg> Deckert: 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 8998ms 06:32 < Deckert> peleg: hmm... all seems good and well 06:32 < Deckert> peleg: stillhaving an issue with your SSH ? 06:32 < peleg> right. still :-) 06:33 < peleg> I type, and I see it 15-90 seconds afterward. 06:33 * Deckert scratches his beard 06:33 < peleg> don't you think that the tracepath implies anything? 06:33 < peleg> it looks a bit slow in the beginning (I'm not sure) 06:34 < Deckert> peleg: tracelooks fine ... 06:34 < peleg> ok 06:34 < Deckert> peleg: 10ms to the DSLAM is good 06:35 < peleg> now measured: typed "fff" and have seen it more than one minute after typing. 06:35 < Deckert> peleg: and 150ms is the norm for cross-atlantic latency 06:35 < Deckert> peleg: have anywhere else you can SSH to/from? 06:35 < spasmface> the webconsole is slow unfortunatly (Which i have to use from work because everyting else is blocked) 06:35 < peleg> hmm.. 06:36 < Deckert> spasmface: heh, agreed .. try using it over a 330ms latency link! :-) 06:36 < peleg> Deckert: maybe, I will check. 06:36 < spasmface> =/ 06:37 < Deckert> peleg: but I must add that connecting to port 22 on your server takes a while, and typing gibberish when it connects takes for ever to disconnect 06:38 < peleg> Deckert: I have tried one which I have restricted access to, and it was fast (but short, so I can't really know) 06:38 < Deckert> peleg: what does dashboard say? how's your CPU usage looking? 06:38 < peleg> Deckert: Your Linode has averaged 1% of one Host CPU for this month 06:38 < peleg> Host Load: medium 06:39 < Deckert> peleg: and the CPU graph? 06:39 < peleg> but cpu graph is going up and up 06:39 < peleg> not above 30%, though 06:39 < Deckert> peleg: okay, and lastly, what's the load average on your server? 06:39 < Deckert> (right now) 06:40 < peleg> Deckert: what do you mean? 06:40 < Deckert> peleg: run the command 'uptime' 06:41 < peleg> in shell? 06:41 < Deckert> peleg: it will report your server load average 06:41 < Deckert> yup - in the shell 06:41 < peleg> ok. because it is in the shell, it might take a while :-) 06:41 < Deckert> peleg: I understand 06:41 < Deckert> peleg: oh, and how's the resonse on LISH (the web-based console?) 06:42 < peleg> Deckert: I have never logged into LISH, actually; or maybe I can't remember. how can I do that? 06:42 < peleg> my shell is not moving at all. I am just waiting 06:43 < peleg> it is completely frozen. I will try to log again. 06:43 < Deckert> peleg: https://www.linode.com/members/linode/console.cfm 06:43 < Deckert> click on "Launch Console" 06:43 < Deckert> but I gotta run ... see you in 30mins 06:44 < peleg> debi:/home/peleg# uptime 06:44 < peleg> 06:43:52 up 3 days, 16:10, 2 users, load average: 15.62, 16.45, 15.39 06:44 < peleg> Deckert: thanks 06:45 < peleg> Deckert: I am here, just ping me when you come back :-) 06:49 -!- irgeek [~irgeek@166.128.137.193] has quit [Quit: irgeek] 06:49 < peleg> currently I am in LISH; it works REALLY slow (but works). I don't think it is faster than my own shell... maybe a bit. it also freezes for a minute or two sometimes. 06:55 -!- Clorith [~marius@234.81-167-84.customer.lyse.net] has joined #linode 06:57 < Clorith> Is it possible to make lynx bind to a certain IP on your box? 06:58 < peleg> oh.. it was really really good for about a minute, and now it is completely frozen again. I am trying to reboot my linode. 06:59 < bob2> Clorith: you can set the source address globally 06:59 < Clorith> How would I do that ? 07:02 < Clorith> and does that also work with ipv6 IP's ? 07:03 < bob2> probably simplest way is to change our default gateway 07:03 < bob2> your 07:03 < bob2> ditto ipv6 07:03 -!- MikeAlexis [~KLBKvTurk@85.96.209.51] has joined #linode 07:03 -!- MikeAlexis [~KLBKvTurk@85.96.209.51] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 11:03:33)] 07:03 -!- sultan [~m_a@78.186.70.233] has joined #linode 07:03 -!- nadide [~KLBKvTurk@88.230.177.178] has joined #linode 07:03 -!- sultan [~m_a@78.186.70.233] has quit [autokilled: spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 11:03:42)] 07:03 -!- nadide [~KLBKvTurk@88.230.177.178] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 11:03:44)] 07:05 -!- klv5f1s6 [~KLBKvTurk@88.247.189.8] has joined #linode 07:05 -!- klv5f1s6 [~KLBKvTurk@88.247.189.8] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 11:05:18)] 07:12 < Clorith> Again, how would I accomplish such a task =x 07:15 < bob2> depends on your OS 07:15 < Clorith> Ubuntu :P 07:15 < peleg> Deckert: it looks like rebooting my linode helped. have any ideas what couldv'e caused it? 07:15 < Clorith> <-- hardcore ubuntu fan 07:16 < bob2> ok 07:16 -!- algul [~SilverWin@88.248.137.148] has joined #linode 07:16 -!- algul [~SilverWin@88.248.137.148] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 11:17:04)] 07:25 < Clorith> I'm in the /etc/network/interfaces 07:25 < Clorith> there's no gateway lines here though 07:25 < bob2> are you using dhcp? 07:25 < Clorith> no idea? :P 07:26 < Clorith> the current one is set to dhcp it seems 07:26 < bob2> does it have the word 'dhcp' in there 07:26 < Clorith> yeah 07:27 < bob2> ok 07:28 < bob2> for both your interfaces? 07:28 < Clorith> buth ? 07:28 < Clorith> *both ? 07:29 < Clorith> the loopback is "loopback", the primary is "dhcp" 07:29 < bob2> do you have two linode ip addresses? 07:29 < Clorith> no, just one 07:29 < Clorith> I'm using 6to4 for ipv6 07:30 < bob2> 20:57:37 < Clorith> Is it possible to make lynx bind to a certain IP on your box? 07:30 < bob2> what are you trying to do then? 07:30 < Clorith> well, lynx uses the ipv4 (eth0) IP 07:31 < Deetz> lynx is my web browser of choice 07:31 < Clorith> but I need to use the ipv6 IP that I assign using 6to4 to access the NRO's ipv6 section 07:32 < bob2> if your lynx has ipv6 support, it will prefer that to ipv4 07:32 < bob2> assuming there are workign aaaa records 07:32 < Clorith> it has ipv6 support, but it still sticks t othe ipv4 07:33 < Clorith> oh well, when using a forwarding domain I can get on the ipv6 section 07:34 < Clorith> *sticks to that then* 07:34 < bob2> does going to the ipv6 ip work? 07:35 < Clorith> it should 07:35 < bob2> is that a 'yes' 07:35 < Clorith> I get the correct ipv6 info if I use a forwarding domain to get to the site I want to go to with ipv6... 07:36 < bob2> what is a "forwarding domain" 07:36 < Clorith> well, I had this problem before 07:36 < Clorith> and the nused another domain that just forwards to 6to4.nro.net 07:36 < Clorith> (which is where I need to go using ipv6 to set up rdns and such) 07:37 < Clorith> but when I try going directly to 6to4.nro.net it reports I'm using ipv4 07:38 < bob2> wfm on eatch with lynx: 'You are detected as coming from: 2001:470:b829::9' 07:39 < bob2> how sure are you that ipv6 works fine otherwise? 07:39 < bob2> can you 'ping6 www.kame.net'? 07:39 < Clorith> yes 07:40 < Clorith> It's aparently a random problem a lot of people hit when trying to use lynx with ipv6 at times (or so I've heard) 07:40 -!- binel_ [~h00s@78-1-153-24.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #linode 07:41 -!- zeren [~VisChaos@85.105.109.122] has joined #linode 07:41 -!- Michel{ [~melek@78.188.67.119] has joined #linode 07:41 -!- AndiMoisescu [~cortez57@78.188.29.252] has joined #linode 07:41 -!- zeren [~VisChaos@85.105.109.122] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 11:41:25)] 07:42 < bob2> I can't think how it could be intermittent unless your resolver and/or ipv6 connectivity was flakey 07:42 < Clorith> ping6 works just fine though =/ 07:43 < bob2> who is your ipv6 connectivity with? 07:43 -!- binel [~h00s@78-1-131-193.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:43 < Clorith> I use 6to4 from NRO.net 07:43 < Clorith> it works fine, except lynx is dodgy with it for me 07:56 < bob2> weird 07:56 < mattt416> afternoon 07:57 < bob2> pretty sure he offer tunnels from each dc linode is in 08:04 -!- elky_ [~melissa@210.1.213.63] has quit [Quit: blah] 08:06 * Deckert returns with some tea 08:06 < Deckert> peleg: glad to hear it's okay 08:06 -!- crazyme212sm [~Karav@212.156.215.99] has joined #linode 08:06 -!- necla [~husna@212.156.215.99] has joined #linode 08:06 -!- crazyme212sm [~Karav@212.156.215.99] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 12:06:51)] 08:06 < peleg> Deckert: thanks.. do you have any idea what it might be? or should I just wait and see if it happens again? 08:06 -!- ppeyjh [~tteess@78.181.152.225] has joined #linode 08:06 -!- ppeyjh [~tteess@78.181.152.225] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 12:06:59)] 08:07 < Deckert> peleg: well, the load average on your server was exceptionally high 08:07 < peleg> wow, spammers like this channel, I see. 08:07 < Deckert> a load of over 2.0 is already high 08:07 < Deckert> and yours was over 15 08:07 < peleg> Deckert: oh, I see. yes, it was up to 28. 08:07 < peleg> can I check somehow what caused it? 08:08 < Deckert> peleg: sheesh ... something was chewing your CPU or disk I/O then .. no wonder you had issues with it being slow 08:08 < Deckert> peleg: basically run the 'top' command ... 08:08 < Deckert> (press 'q' to quit from it) 08:08 < Deckert> peleg: it will show you what is consuming high CPU 08:08 < Clorith> 28...ouch 08:08 -!- naciye [~bobbcat@88.250.5.225] has joined #linode 08:08 -!- naciye [~bobbcat@88.250.5.225] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 12:08:51)] 08:08 < peleg> Deckert: ok, I use htop; but it gives me only immediate results, I can't see history, right? 08:09 < Deckert> peleg: no, no history 08:09 < Deckert> peleg: I run a script on all my servers that checks the load and if it goes over 2.0 it takes a snapshot and stores it in a file 08:09 < peleg> Deckert: so, there's practically no way to check what causes it; since when it occurs, my shell is frozen, and after that, I can't check any more. 08:10 < peleg> Deckert: oh, that's sounds like a good way! 08:10 < peleg> do you use debian? 08:10 * Deckert is a Slackware man 08:10 < Deckert> peleg: but the two are close enough ;-) 08:10 < peleg> I'm not sure if I know what it means. is the script you wrote a bash script? 08:10 < Deckert> peleg: hmmm... you might look into some security for your Linode 08:11 < Deckert> peleg: check that all your packages are up to date 08:11 < peleg> Deckert: I do it frequently. 08:11 < Deckert> peleg: and also check to see if you see suspicious actiity in your /var/log/messages file 08:11 < Deckert> *activity 08:12 < Deckert> (winter is here and my fingers tend to stop working when it's cold) 08:12 < peleg> Deckert: :-) 08:13 < peleg> so one last question: the script you wrote, is it a bash script? and if so - would you mind to share it? 08:13 < Deckert> peleg: what is the load on your server like now? 08:13 < peleg> load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 08:13 * Deckert scruffs around for his script 08:14 < Deckert> peleg: excellent ... ideally a unix machine with one CPU shouldn't go over 1.0 (but that's just a rule-of-thumb) 08:14 < peleg> good :-) 08:15 < mwalling> http://files.markwalling.org/graph_2_5.png 08:15 < mwalling> Deckert: ^^ 08:16 < peleg> well, it is not urgent, but if you find your script it might be nice to have a look at it. I am going back to my studies in the meanwhile... :-) 08:16 < Deckert> *click* 08:16 < Deckert> mwalling: murderer! ;-) 08:17 < mwalling> /home is in clickdeath 08:17 < Deckert> mwalling: that's serious load 08:17 < mwalling> yup 08:17 < mwalling> :) 08:17 < Deckert> mwalling: how manty CPUs 08:17 < Deckert> ? 08:17 < Deckert> *many 08:17 < mwalling> its a vmware machine 08:17 < mwalling> host has 1, guest has 1 08:18 < Deckert> mwalling: ah 08:21 < Deckert> peleg: http://pastebin.com/m42126db 08:22 < peleg> Deckert: simple, and cool! :-) 08:22 < peleg> thanks! 08:22 < Deckert> peleg: no probs 08:22 < Deckert> peleg: run one every x minutes from your crontab 08:22 < Deckert> peleg: I run it once every 5 mins 08:23 < peleg> Deckert: of course. thanks. 08:27 -!- r3z`` [~r3z@c-68-58-96-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #linode 08:27 -!- r3z` [~r3z@c-68-58-96-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32 -!- sveiss [~sveiss@2001:470:1f09:2a4:21b:63ff:fe1b:abd3] has joined #linode 08:44 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has joined #linode 08:46 -!- xitology [~xi@78.31.182.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:53 -!- boomers [~papatya@88.248.167.98] has joined #linode 08:53 -!- boomers [~papatya@88.248.167.98] has quit [autokilled: spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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I mean how fast is the data transfer? 09:01 < mwalling> !download 09:01 < linbot> http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 09:02 < mwalling> silverblade: i know they just had TP install gige uplinks 09:02 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:03 < silverblade> would having services on 2 linodes in the same DC make any difference? 09:04 < silverblade> ie, im streaming audio from one, doing web serving on the other 09:05 < spasmface> anyone have any benchmarks on xsp 09:05 < tjfontaine> mwalling: fiber! 09:06 < mwalling> tjfontaine: close enough 09:27 -!- ^miss^^ [~feyza@85.96.88.93] has joined #linode 09:27 -!- ^miss^^ [~feyza@85.96.88.93] has quit [autokilled: Take your spambots elsewhere. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 13:27:23)] 09:27 < Clorith> you really should try filtering those on connect before they join channels =x (of course I don't know how many there are and if they're already smacking down on any bopm's or similar) 09:28 < mwalling> Clorith: /help ignore 09:28 < Clorith> oh they're only somewhat anoying in the channel :P 09:29 < mwalling> you can specify a channel in the /ignore 09:29 < mwalling> how do you think i ignore mikegrb's triggers? 09:30 < Clorith> lol 09:30 < mikegrb> lolz 09:30 < Clorith> The adding of chanenls is new to me though 09:36 -!- sveiss [~sveiss@2001:470:1f09:2a4:21b:63ff:fe1b:abd3] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37 -!- sveiss [~sveiss@2001:470:1f09:2a4:21b:63ff:fe1b:abd3] has joined #linode 09:41 < mikegrb> Clorith: right it's thier behavior after connect that identifies them 09:42 < Clorith> ahh, I see 09:45 -!- Katlyn [~Katlyn@92.11.107.229] has joined #linode 09:47 < spasmface> lol 09:47 < mikegrb> lolz 09:47 < spasmface> .. 09:47 < Clorith> haha 09:51 -!- Michael [~5304d22c@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 09:51 < Michael> Hi guys got silly question 09:51 < Michael> how to switch user on debian? 09:52 < Michael> I want to relog from root to normal user so I can use irc 09:52 < Michael> irssi 09:52 < Clorith> su user 09:52 -!- Michael is now known as Guest146 09:52 < Guest146> ty 09:52 < StevenK> Or ssh in as that user 09:54 < bob2> 'sudo was originally written by Bob Coggeshall and Cliff Spencer "around 1980"' 09:54 < azaghal> Guest146: Or execute 'login' 09:54 < Guest146> ok, another silly question. How to minimalize screen? ctrl+alt+d doesn't work 09:54 < StevenK> Ctrl-A d 09:54 < peleg> Clorith: I have a weird question; did you just underlined, somehow, the word user in the sentence "su user"? 09:54 < azaghal> I.e., it's two-step shortcut. 09:55 < StevenK> Yes. To be clearer, hit Ctrl-a and then 'd' 09:55 < Guest146> StevenK: now when I type screen -r it tells me unknown command 09:55 < Guest146> o_O 09:55 < azaghal> Guest146: Did you install it? ;) 09:55 < mwalling> are you in lish or your own node? 09:56 < peleg> Guest146: so install screen :-) 09:56 < Guest146> screen? of course 09:56 < bob2> check you really typed 'screen' 09:56 < azaghal> I know that after logging in as root to my Debian Etch, I had to use login instead of su - user to be able to use screen. 09:56 < Guest146> yeah, I typed screen 09:56 < mwalling> are you in lish or your own node? 09:57 < Guest146> lish 09:57 < azaghal> Ah 09:57 < mwalling> hit enter 09:57 < Guest146> oh god 09:57 < Guest146> too easy lol :D 09:57 < mikegrb> lolz 09:57 < mwalling> lish != normal shell 09:57 < bob2> using screen within lish is non-trivial unless you change your scren command key 09:58 < mwalling> huh? 09:58 < Guest146> can I change it somehow to "normal shell" ? 09:58 < bob2> otherwsie ctrl-a a ctrl-d 09:58 < Guest146> I'm used to this normal one 09:58 < bob2> Guest146: login via ssh 09:58 < mwalling> Guest146: yes, use ssh 09:59 < Guest146> well, I'm connecting via putty, I thought thats ssh 10:00 < mwalling> ssh to your node, not the host 10:00 < bob2> connect to yourhost.yourdomain.com instead of dallasnn.linode.com 10:01 < Guest146> damn, why all solutions are so easy, that makes me look even more lame than I am 10:01 < bob2> (assuming you setup ssh) 10:01 < Guest146> yeah its working now, it solved also my problem with scrolling window in putty 10:01 < mwalling> bob2: ssh is set up in all of the images 10:01 < Guest146> thank you guys 10:02 < bob2> ah 10:02 < Clorith> peleg, yes I underlined "user" 10:02 -!- Wing [~Wing@c-24-118-247-173.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #linode 10:05 < Clorith> Guest146, don't worry, everyone has to start somewhere :P 10:05 < Clorith> That's why I keep poking bob2 and such ;) 10:07 -!- jm [~fake@c-76-113-194-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #linode 10:08 < StevenK> Poking bob2 is amusing 10:09 -!- Bdragon [~Bdragon@dpc6746139138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:09 < Clorith> It is indeed 10:09 < Clorith> his own fault for showing that he has some knowledge ifnront of us newbies >=) 10:10 < mwalling> no, poking mikegrb > poking bob2 10:11 < Clorith> but we're talking about non-staff poking 10:11 < bob2> people still use mikegrb poking??? 10:11 < Clorith> we all know poking mikegrb > * if we include staff 10:11 < Clorith> haha 10:12 < peleg> Clorith: may I ask how can you do that? 10:12 < Clorith> on mIRC, ctrl+u 10:12 < Clorith> I think xchat uses the same 10:13 < Clorith> not sure about irssi and such 10:13 < peleg> Clorith: oh, thanks! :-) 10:13 < StevenK> Ctrl-U is clear line in irssi, like the shell 10:14 < Clorith> For future reference: ctrl+u - underline, ctrl+b - bold, ctrl+backspace - reverse, ctrl+k - color :P 10:15 < peleg> Clorith: well, it's not working in xchat by default; I have to define it, but I'll find a way to do so :-) 10:19 -!- spasmface [~spasm@r220-101-90-128.cpe.unwired.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:21 < Guest146> hm, when can I upgrade my plan to higher one? I'm in Dallas's Datacenter 10:22 < Guest146> I've go 360, but I'm interested in 720 10:23 < Clorith> submit a ticket? 10:23 < Guest146> I wonder if it's possible to merge two 360 in 720, as I've got one 360 and others are available 10:23 < Guest146> did someone try something like this? 10:25 < mwalling> no 10:25 < mwalling> 1 type of plan per host 10:25 < mwalling> so going to a 720 will require a migration 10:25 < mwalling> !avail-tp 10:25 < linbot> mwalling: Dallas360 - 2, Dallas540 - 0, Dallas720 - 0, Dallas1080 - 0, Dallas1440 - 0, Dallas2880 - 0 10:26 < mwalling> also, there aren't any available, but if you submit a ticket you'll get in line for one 10:27 < Guest146> oh, okay 10:28 < Guest146> anyway I will submit a ticket to get in line as you said 10:28 < Guest146> thank you again 10:31 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@194.228.34.196] has joined #linode 10:36 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has joined #linode 10:57 -!- xitology [~xi@78.31.182.24] has joined #linode 11:04 -!- Wing [~Wing@c-24-118-247-173.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [] 11:08 -!- israel_ [~DarquePrv@85.102.85.26] has joined #linode 11:08 -!- israel_ [~DarquePrv@85.102.85.26] has quit [autokilled: spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 15:12:19)] 11:16 < HoopyCat> any way the akill messages could be more humorous? they're getting a little boring. :-) 11:16 < SpaceHobo> CONNECTION RESET BY PR0N 11:18 < mwalling> tjfontaine: featuree request: 11:16 < HoopyCat> any way the akill messages could be more humorous? they're getting a little boring. :-) 11:20 < HoopyCat> [oftc.net #6554321] Services: FREQ: moar lulz plz 11:21 < mwalling> ... 11:21 < mwalling> did you really? 11:22 < HoopyCat> no, but technically i could 11:23 < mwalling> http://trac.oftc.net/projects/oftc-ircservices/newticket 11:23 < mwalling> hehehe 11:23 < silverblade> IRC: An essential source of spam. 11:23 < SpaceHobo> I like how e-mail programs are using the enron set 11:23 < SpaceHobo> to test 11:24 < HoopyCat> i don't think i can handle opening a ticket yet 11:27 < HoopyCat> (at least, not one with the majesty and wit required) 11:27 -!- me-khael [~mevlude@88.248.17.239] has joined #linode 11:27 -!- Seinajoki [~trevto@78.188.13.206] has joined #linode 11:27 -!- me-khael [~mevlude@88.248.17.239] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 15:28:09)] 11:28 < JDLSpeedy> omg 11:28 < caker> what are those clients trying to accomplish, anyway? 11:28 < caker> do they PM spam or something? 11:28 < mwalling> seems like they're working :P 11:28 < HoopyCat> i suspect #linode is just hard-coded in some software 11:28 < mwalling> they pmspammed me and heidi at least 11:29 -!- Eleo [~user@adsl-69-212-158-145.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #linode 11:30 < bob2> yay for /ignore 11:30 < HoopyCat> what're they spamming? 11:30 < bob2> all I got was 'dilay_eda@' 11:31 < JDLSpeedy> i get them too 11:32 < JDLSpeedy> one from mirakiver and one from rukiye, and more others..... 11:33 < mwalling> i /ignore'd JOINS and PARTS in #linode... i think i've only got hit once.. i suspect since b < m lexographicly, bob2's getting hit before they get akilled 11:33 < bob2> only rarely 11:34 < praetorian> i got nothing 11:34 < HoopyCat> nothing here either, and i'm before m 11:34 < Clorith> poor poor bob 11:34 < Clorith> xD 11:34 < mwalling> i got 1, heidi got a couple before she /part'd 11:36 * mwalling says oftc deserves a round of applause 11:39 -!- seren [~izlem@78.186.206.170] has joined #linode 11:39 -!- JLB466 [~phillyblu@88.247.51.232] has joined #linode 11:39 -!- seren [~izlem@78.186.206.170] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 15:39:25)] 11:39 < Clorith> Wow, they do love you, don't they ? 11:39 < JDLSpeedy> LOL 11:39 < mikegrb> lolz 11:39 < Katlyn> free ips! 11:39 < Clorith> ^ 11:40 < JDLSpeedy> they need to kill from the source, heh 11:41 < bob2> it would be neat if dovecot had ident auth 11:41 < SpaceHobo> bob2: say what now 11:41 < JDLSpeedy> oftc uses dovecot? 11:41 < bob2> oh, entirely unrelated 11:41 < JDLSpeedy> ooo 11:42 < bob2> just sick of typing my imap password into mutt 11:43 < mwalling> hmm... python question... 11:43 * mwalling pastebins example code 11:45 -!- jacob [~jacobmp@208.78.204.26] has joined #linode 11:46 < caker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcIy9O344bI <-- very cool 11:46 < mwalling> http://p.linode.com/812 11:46 < mwalling> question is in the comments 11:46 -!- Deckert [~Deckert@dsl-240-147-158.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:46 -!- Deckert [~Deckert@dsl-240-147-158.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #linode 11:47 < mikegrb> mwalling: correct 11:47 < mikegrb> unelss it is a bizarro language 11:47 < mikegrb> looks like python though? 11:47 < mwalling> yesh 11:48 < JDLSpeedy> mwalling: some part of an email filter? 11:48 < mwalling> JDLSpeedy: nope 11:49 < mwalling> parsing MANIFEST.bz2 files 11:49 < JDLSpeedy> ah, ok 11:49 < bob2> that's right 11:50 < HoopyCat> i concur 11:50 < mwalling> k 11:50 < HoopyCat> <--- licensed python operator 11:51 < mikegrb> lies 11:51 < mikegrb> your license was revoked for CUI 11:51 * mikegrb takes a nap 11:51 < mwalling> i'm sitting there looking at my code from last night and thinking that it was going to execute that next statement 11:51 < HoopyCat> i've got my python right here, baby 11:51 < Clorith> Crying Under Influence ? 11:52 -!- izel [~selvi@88.242.232.34] has joined #linode 11:52 -!- izel [~selvi@88.242.232.34] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 15:53:09)] 11:53 < tjfontaine> sigh. 11:54 < Deckert> wtf is up with these spammers? when did it start happening? 11:54 < mwalling> i farted 11:54 * Deckert clamps it down with slack stableness 11:54 < tjfontaine> forever ago, but a recent splash a few days ago 11:55 * silverblade plugs mwalling up 11:55 -!- erikh [~erikh@hollensbe.org] has quit [Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5] 11:55 < tjfontaine> be thankful we kill them off :) 11:56 < Deckert> tjfontaine: referring to mwalling's farts? ;-) 11:56 < cruxeternus> The missle defense shield does seem to be working well. 11:56 < tjfontaine> them tool 11:56 < cruxeternus> Deckert: They don't have anything that powerful. 11:56 < mwalling> cruxeternus: hey 11:56 < Deckert> 11:56 < mwalling> i only eat tbell once a weekish 12:06 < mattt416> tbell is delicious 12:06 < mattt416> haven't had that for a number of years :/ 12:06 * Deckert had it last in 1983 12:07 < mattt416> hahaha 12:07 < Deckert> I was 13 years old at the time, was also the last time I was in the USA 12:09 < mattt416> where you now? 12:09 < Deckert> mattt416: South Africa 12:09 < mattt416> ewww 12:09 < mattt416> :) 12:10 < mattt416> kidding, my dad's in SA 12:10 < Deckert> heh 12:10 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@194.228.34.196] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:10 < Deckert> mattt416: whatcha up to in the US? 12:10 < mattt416> what took you to SA? 12:10 < mattt416> Deckert: i'm in the UK actually 12:11 < Deckert> mattt416: it's home, was born here 12:11 < Deckert> but I've lived in the US and UK for a while 12:13 -!- Yrsa [~firdevs@88.254.20.125] has joined #linode 12:13 -!- Yrsa [~firdevs@88.254.20.125] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 16:13:20)] 12:13 * cruxeternus dons rain-gear. 12:13 -!- thefalcon [~turkan@78.164.168.129] has joined #linode 12:13 -!- thefalcon [~turkan@78.164.168.129] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 16:13:25)] 12:13 < Deckert> heh 12:13 -!- yaprak [~nazli@88.229.213.4] has joined #linode 12:13 -!- yaprak [~nazli@88.229.213.4] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a source of spam. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 16:13:32)] 12:13 -!- filiz [~antilife@81.215.161.219] has joined #linode 12:13 -!- filiz [~antilife@81.215.161.219] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 16:13:33)] 12:13 < mattt416> Deckert: you work in IT in SA? 12:13 -!- aybike [~suheyla@85.97.178.44] has joined #linode 12:13 -!- aybike [~suheyla@85.97.178.44] has quit [autokilled: Take your spambots elsewhere. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 16:13:46)] 12:13 < Deckert> mattt416: IT yes, actually more in Telecomms 12:14 -!- icebrian [~icebrian@a213-22-63-22.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #linode 12:15 < mattt416> Deckert: familiar with obsidian? we have a bunch of guys in the UK from there. 12:15 < Deckert> mattt416: they used to do good work, lots surrounding Linux typ stuff 12:16 < Deckert> mattt416: they also offered training courses IIRC 12:16 < HoopyCat> wow, these empanadas rocked 12:16 < cruxeternus> Looks like mwalling's not to blame for the Taco Bell today. 12:16 * Deckert googles empanada 12:16 < HoopyCat> these ain't taco bell empanadas :-) 12:17 < HoopyCat> Deckert: the 10th hit (rocwiki.org) is hosted on linode. 12:17 < Deckert> 12:17 < mattt416> heh, rochester 12:17 -!- Katlyn [~Katlyn@92.11.107.229] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:17 < mattt416> nice city iirc 12:18 < Deckert> HoopyCat: I googled "empanada" - 10th hit looks different from where I am 12:19 * Deckert wonders if Google has differing results for each country 12:19 < HoopyCat> Deckert: entirely possible, given geographic differences 12:20 < HoopyCat> mattt416: i like it. a lot of people don't, but i consider those people to be silly. 12:23 < mattt416> mmm, garbage plate looks good :) 12:26 < HoopyCat> haven't had one of those in ages :-) 12:28 < mattt416> it looks like a nice city ... haven't been since i was a kid ... 12:31 -!- saliha [~LaWinMo@88.252.21.253] has joined #linode 12:31 -!- saliha [~LaWinMo@88.252.21.253] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a source of spam. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 16:31:34)] 12:31 * HoopyCat sneaks in "free beer offer" in the middle of a spambot attack 12:32 < mattt416> hehe, will do :) 12:36 < mattt416> HoopyCat: is that wiki your site? 12:36 -!- Guest146 [~5304d22c@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:37 -!- erikh [~181449a4@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 12:37 < erikh> tasaro/caker/mikegrb, you around? 12:38 < HoopyCat> mattt416: i didn't start it and i don't get involved too much in the community, but i handle rootly stuff 12:39 < mattt416> is it running off your linode? 12:39 < HoopyCat> mattt416: http://rocwiki.org/System_Info :-) 12:40 -!- erikh_ [~181449a4@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 12:40 < HoopyCat> it is on its own linode 12:41 < HoopyCat> erikh_: caker and mikegrb were around about an hour ago; mikegrb is napping, but caker may still be alive 12:41 < HoopyCat> 12:41 < erikh_> ah 12:41 < erikh_> I found a neat bug in the linode manager :) 12:42 < erikh_> if you have a negative amount of disk space, you can't delete partitions.... 12:42 < erikh_> which kind of, um, makes it hard to get under your quota, heh. 12:42 -!- erikh [~181449a4@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:43 -!- erikh_ is now known as erikh 12:43 < HoopyCat> that sounds like a bug. :-) 12:43 < caker> erikh: how'd you manage to get negative? 12:43 < mattt416> anyone know about PTRs? set one up last night and it still doesn't resolve 12:43 < erikh> tasaro and I setup a migration to downgrade my linode 12:44 < erikh> I imagine it happened then? 12:44 < erikh> i'll be under it as soon as I delete the old partitions, so I can just tell you when they're deleted 12:44 < caker> ok .. I see that -- he reduced your quota before you actually freed the space 12:44 < caker> What happens when you try to delete one? 12:45 < erikh> it thinks I'm trying to resize 12:45 < caker> OK -- so you're clicking on the image, landing on the Image Edit page, and clicking delete there? 12:45 < erikh> and gives me non-deterministic values for the range: sometimes it's 1 to -20k 12:45 -!- DennisTT [~den@S010600062579d782.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #linode 12:45 < erikh> sometimes it's part size to -20k 12:45 < caker> How about doing it from the dashboard? (check the checkbox, click delete) 12:46 < erikh> hmm, lemme try. 12:46 < erikh> dashboard worked 12:47 -!- dilseren [~sevinc@81.213.131.183] has joined #linode 12:47 -!- andac [~AllDay@85.105.179.245] has joined #linode 12:47 -!- dilseren [~sevinc@81.213.131.183] has quit [autokilled: spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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If you want to move sooner just submit a ticket 12:49 < binel_> caker: no, i want to stay on my current host ;) ty for info 12:51 < purrdeta> xen ftw 12:51 < erikh> ok, i got it below quota, i'm going to do my migration now 12:51 < caker> cool 12:51 < erikh> thanks again caker, I hope the bug report helps 12:51 -!- hpj [~hpj@189.190.11.219] has joined #linode 12:51 < caker> I think that was human error .. but I'll look at the image edit page 12:52 < erikh> heh, all I did was click "delete image" 12:53 < cruxeternus> How do I disable ipv6? 12:54 < cruxeternus> is there a sysctl property? 12:54 < caker> I still don't understand why people ask that :) 12:54 < cruxeternus> :P 12:54 < mwalling> why would you want to do that? 12:54 < caker> cruxeternus: why? 12:54 < mwalling> we're not in the 80's any more 12:54 < cruxeternus> Well, for one thing, it makes the netstat output a little simpler 12:54 < cruxeternus> And I fear the unknown! 12:54 < bob2> alias netstat='netstat -4' 12:55 < cruxeternus> So, I take it that's a 'no'? :P 12:55 < mwalling> then make it known? 12:55 < mattt416> cruxeternus: heh, i'm with you too 12:55 < HoopyCat> ipv6 is love 12:55 < HoopyCat> turning off love == death 12:55 < mattt416> cruxeternus: if you use centos, i think there's a setting in /etc/sysconfig/network? 12:55 < bob2> get your ipv6 nerd points before it's mainstream 12:55 < mwalling> /whois mwalling 12:55 < mwalling> :) 12:56 < mwalling> ipv6, ssl, and certfp :) 12:56 < HoopyCat> mwalling: using HE? 12:56 < bob2> certfp is really neat 12:56 < mwalling> HoopyCat: yeah 12:56 < bob2> (ditto) 12:56 < bob2> he has brokers at all the linode dcs now, afaict 12:56 < mwalling> my broker is still in CA though, too lazy to move it to dallas 12:57 < mwalling> bob2: no, he's in dallas is up the street or somethin 12:57 < bob2> yeah, then you'll have to renumber your /48!11 12:57 < HoopyCat> mwalling: haven't yet gotten my head wrapped around using the routed /64, thus my rdns is lame. 12:58 * sveiss has his routed /64 out across his home LAN 12:58 < sveiss> so now I've got an insane number of addresses for about 10 devices, rather than for just the one :) 12:59 < HoopyCat> i found a 2002-era dell on the curb thursday morning which i'm going to try to turn into a new home router this weekend 12:59 < sveiss> my desktop PC is being used to play with OpenSolaris right now, was pretty easy to turn into a router and to advertise it for IPv6 autoconfig 13:00 < cruxeternus> bob2: netstat -4 doesn't show my ssh server :/ 13:01 < bob2> -l 13:01 -!- erikh_ [~erikh@hollensbe.org] has joined #linode 13:02 < bob2> hm, good point 13:02 -!- Hamlock [~WAZaby@85.98.4.60] has joined #linode 13:02 -!- Hamlock [~WAZaby@85.98.4.60] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 17:02:36)] 13:02 < erikh_> wow, maybe it's just more apparent, but oftc must be getting attacked a lot more 13:02 < sveiss> we seem to be popular today 13:04 -!- Mossy [~hokaos@88.231.165.176] has joined #linode 13:04 -!- Mossy [~hokaos@88.231.165.176] has quit [autokilled: Take your spambots elsewhere. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 17:04:25)] 13:04 -!- Tido [~todd@c-24-30-19-33.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #linode 13:04 < mwalling> erikh_: but they're mitigating the attack alot better then another network 13:05 < Tido> is there a way to specify which datacenter I'd like my linode to be at? 13:05 < mwalling> Tido: when you sign up, you select where your inital deployment will be 13:05 < erikh_> mwalling: oh, no argument 13:05 < mwalling> after that, you need to submit a ticket to move 13:06 < Tido> thanks, mwalling 13:06 < mwalling> someone hit !avail-all 13:06 < erikh_> !avail-all 13:06 < linbot> Fremont360 - 6, Fremont540 - 24, Fremont720 - 15, Fremont1080 - 12, Fremont1440 - 8, Fremont2880 - 4 , Dallas360 - 2, Dallas540 - 0, Dallas720 - 0, Dallas1080 - 0, Dallas1440 - 0, Dallas2880 - 0 , Atlanta360 - 0, Atlanta540 - 0, Atlanta720 - 1, Atlanta1080 - 0, Atlanta1440 - 0, Atlanta2880 - 0 13:07 < mwalling> Tido: there's your choices 13:07 < Tido> ah damn, no more for Atlanta 13:07 < erikh_> hint: go fremont 13:07 < mwalling> !download 13:07 < linbot> http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 13:07 < mwalling> Tido: ^^ addresses to test bw/lag 13:08 < Tido> thanks again 13:08 < mwalling> !avail-an 13:08 < linbot> mwalling: Atlanta360 - 0, Atlanta540 - 0, Atlanta720 - 1, Atlanta1080 - 0, Atlanta1440 - 0, Atlanta2880 - 0 13:08 < mwalling> there's 1 720 :D 13:10 -!- erikh_ [~erikh@hollensbe.org] has quit [Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5] 13:10 < Tido> a bit overkill for my needs :P 13:11 < cruxeternus> What are your needs? 13:11 < cruxeternus> Do they involve IRC proxies/servers/clients? 13:11 < Tido> basic lamp 13:11 < Tido> nah no irc needs 13:11 < cruxeternus> Ah, ok. 13:11 * caker has needs 13:11 * mwalling has wants 13:11 < Tido> yeah there are other needs, but I'm not sure this is that kind of business >.> 13:11 * cruxeternus has casual interests 13:12 -!- erikh [~erikh@hollensbe.org] has joined #linode 13:12 < caker> erikh: woot? 13:12 < erikh> indeed. 13:12 < caker> :) 13:12 < erikh> thanks again for your help 13:12 < caker> any time 13:14 < HoopyCat> even at 3am, when "help" consists of "i need to borrow a backhoe... quietly and quickly" 13:14 < erikh> heh. 13:15 < cruxeternus> From the NSA supply yard. 13:15 -!- Bryanstein [~Bryanstei@68-188-91-18.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:20 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has joined #linode 13:27 -!- r3z` [~r3z@c-68-58-96-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #linode 13:27 -!- r3z`` [~r3z@c-68-58-96-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32 < peleg> when adding subdomains, do you recommend to do TTL "forever"? 13:32 -!- irgeek [~irgeek@166.128.137.193] has joined #linode 13:35 < HoopyCat> peleg: i generally go with 24 hours 13:39 < cruxeternus> Forever is kind of a long time. 13:41 < HoopyCat> And Lo, it was that the Universe as we Know It was Dead, its Stars having Gone Out, with the only Remaining Memory of all the Galaxies and Worlds Within being "devbox IN A 66.207.165.166" 13:43 < cruxeternus> That's pretty good spelling for the Lolcat Bible 13:44 < HoopyCat> lolcat bible is zotnix's department :-) 13:47 -!- Magique [~Ozymandio@78.186.205.5] has joined #linode 13:47 -!- Magique [~Ozymandio@78.186.205.5] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 17:47:23)] 13:48 < HoopyCat> nothing quite as satisfying as that moment when you turn on old gear and it DOESN'T catch fire 13:48 -!- okokmanoak [~MirelutzZ@88.254.6.181] has joined #linode 13:48 -!- okokmanoak [~MirelutzZ@88.254.6.181] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 17:48:57)] 13:49 < HoopyCat> pentium 4, 1.7GHz, 256mb RAM. score! 13:49 * irgeek steals the last Xen Linode 260 in Dallas. 13:50 < irgeek> Er, 360 that is. 13:54 * cruxeternus laughs at irgeek getting the Linode with >25% bad memory sectors. 13:55 -!- cellfish [~46505be3@webuser.thegrebs.com] has joined #linode 13:55 < cellfish> out of curiosity, what irc server can i use to log onto this server from mirc? 13:56 < caker> irc.oftc.net 13:56 < cellfish> hanks 13:56 < caker> elcome 13:56 < cruxeternus> ofl 13:56 -!- cellfish- [cellfish@modemcable227.91-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #linode 13:56 -!- cellfish [~46505be3@webuser.thegrebs.com] has quit [] 13:56 -!- cellfish- is now known as cellfish 13:56 < cellfish> is yesso a regular here? 13:57 < Tido> so the kernels are external, right? You don't actually run your distro's kernel? 13:57 < cruxeternus> Haven't seen anyone with that nick. 13:57 < cruxeternus> Tido: Correct. 13:57 < cellfish> alright, all i needed to know. thanks. 13:57 -!- cellfish [cellfish@modemcable227.91-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 13:57 < Tido> thanks cruxeternus 13:57 < cruxeternus> Tido: zcat /proc/config.gz to see what's compiled in (lots and lots of stuff is) 13:58 < cruxeternus> If something is missing, you can download the kernel source and build modules.. if you're on Xen. 13:58 < Tido> how can I tell? 13:58 < cruxeternus> the zcat command :) 13:58 < bob2> or cat /proc/cpuinfo 13:58 < cruxeternus> zcat /proc/config.gz | grep SOME_FLAG_YOU_WANT 13:59 < cruxeternus> oh, heh 13:59 < Tido> ah no, UML for me 13:59 < Tido> :\ 13:59 < cruxeternus> You can migrate to Xen any time you like. 13:59 < cruxeternus> Assuming there are hosts available. 13:59 < irgeek> !avail-all 13:59 < linbot> Fremont360 - 7, Fremont540 - 24, Fremont720 - 15, Fremont1080 - 12, Fremont1440 - 8, Fremont2880 - 4 , Dallas360 - 0, Dallas540 - 0, Dallas720 - 0, Dallas1080 - 0, Dallas1440 - 0, Dallas2880 - 0 , Atlanta360 - 0, Atlanta540 - 0, Atlanta720 - 1, Atlanta1080 - 0, Atlanta1440 - 0, Atlanta2880 - 0 14:00 * cruxeternus accidentally triggered Hotel California in his head. 14:00 < cruxeternus> You can migrate... any time you like... 14:00 < cruxeternus> But you can... never leeeeave 14:00 < Tido> lol 14:00 < mikegrb> lolz 14:00 < irgeek> Tido: Which data center are you in? 14:01 < Tido> dallas 14:01 < irgeek> Sorry. I just took the last Xen host there. 14:01 < Tido> 14:01 < Tido> I guess I'll wait then 14:01 < cruxeternus> wow, there's been a run on Fremont360s 14:02 < Tido> when they migrate, do they move an image of your vps? 14:03 -!- hpj [~hpj@189.190.11.219] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:03 < Tido> I guess I can just make a copy of /etc/ 14:03 < caker> ? 14:04 < cruxeternus> Tido: They move all disk images automagically. 14:04 < Tido> alright, thankee 14:04 < cruxeternus> And even perform the 2-3 conversion steps for you, if you "Xenify" in the profile. 14:04 < irgeek> Damn those Xen hosts boot fast. :) 14:04 < cruxeternus> :) 14:06 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14 -!- bssteph [cthulhu@ayu.emptymatter.org] has quit [Quit: weee] 14:16 < irgeek> Faster Linode, ACTIVATE! 14:17 < irgeek> 14:17 * wladek watches various linodes form into voltron 14:17 * wladek stares at superlinode in disbelief 14:17 < cruxeternus> rofl 14:17 < mikegrb> roflz 14:18 * irgeek watches SuperLinode crush wladek 14:18 * wladek squeaks 14:19 * irgeek hides from SuperLinode 14:19 < irgeek> Fear the wrath of SuperLinode! 14:19 * caker is now known as MumRA, the ever ... LIVING 14:20 * irgeek ' mouth moves 14:21 < irgeek> The battle between MumRA and SuperLinode will be most epic and exciting. 14:21 < irgeek> Ah crap, I flubbed the 's - totally screwed that joke. 14:22 < cruxeternus> *several dramatic still frames, juxtaposing one and then the other * 14:22 * irgeek 's mouth moves 14:23 < irgeek> MumRA shall punish SuperLinode for truth and Justice@ 14:23 < cruxeternus> CATS appears. 14:24 < cruxeternus> How are you gentlemen !! 14:26 < erikh> heh. 14:26 < irgeek> What you say !! 14:31 -!- luca [~lucaf@luca.netop.oftc.net] has joined #linode 14:36 -!- luca [~lucaf@luca.netop.oftc.net] has left #linode [] 14:42 -!- bssteph [cthulhu@ayu.emptymatter.org] has joined #linode 14:45 < irgeek> The thought of turning 32 is utterly depressing. When did I get this old? 14:46 < mwalling> yesterday 14:47 * irgeek tomorrow 14:47 < cruxeternus> woot, someone older than me! 14:48 < irgeek> Yesterday was my aunt's birthday. 14:48 < irgeek> cruxeternus: Rubbing it in is not nice. Damn you whipper-snappers. 14:49 < irgeek> And stay off my lawn! 14:50 * cruxeternus steals irgeek's cane. 14:50 * irgeek falls over and breaks a hip 14:50 * irgeek is rushed to the hospital where they operate for three hours 14:51 * irgeek spends weeks in recovery 14:51 -!- bssteph [cthulhu@ayu.emptymatter.org] has quit [Quit: weeeee] 14:51 * irgeek forms a blood clot due to inactivity which breaks loose, travels to his lung and he dies 14:51 < irgeek> cruxeternus: Happy now? 14:51 < irgeek> Bastard. 14:54 -!- bssteph [cthulhu@ayu.emptymatter.org] has joined #linode 14:55 < cruxeternus> Dude. Buy another cane. 14:55 < irgeek> I was going to buy a new one when I got out of the hospital. But then I died. 14:56 < cruxeternus> :/ 14:56 * cruxeternus buries irgeek with his original cane. 14:56 * irgeek rests in peace 15:05 < irgeek> mwalling: Happy Birthday BTW. 15:05 < mwalling> ? 15:05 < mwalling> you're a month and change too late 15:06 < irgeek> I totally misunderstood what you meant by yesterday. 15:06 < irgeek> I'll go over there now. ---> 15:06 * cruxeternus attaches a tracking device to irgeek too. 15:14 * Clorith decides to be a smartaas 15:14 < Clorith> happy belated birthday mwalling! 15:14 < Clorith> :P 15:14 -!- kim [~kim@118.100.166.38] has joined #linode 15:15 < peleg> HoopyCat: thanks. I will wait... 15:15 < kim> Hello, How to prevent being attack 15:15 < mattt416> sword and shield 15:15 < Clorith> Define "attacked" ? 15:16 < peleg> cruxeternus: I think I will have default, which is - it seems - 24 hours. 15:16 < kim> My server under ddos attack from 66.252.10.2 15:16 < Clorith> How do you know ? 15:16 < mattt416> iptalbes -A INPUT -s 66.252.10.2 -j DROP 15:16 -!- Deetz [~Paul@host185.natpool.mwn.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:16 < mattt416> iptables rather 15:16 < kim> already did 15:17 < Clorith> Then there's no worries 15:17 < Clorith> and that's a sh3lls.net IP... 15:17 < kim> Yeah 15:20 < mattt416> that can't be good 15:20 < mattt416> who'd you piss off? 15:21 < Clorith> mattt416, sh3lls.net is a wannabee bigshot provider, run by skiddies with proxybots :P 15:22 < Clorith> last time I did anything to anoy them, I called one of their owners a crybaby 15:22 < kim> [root@linuxsecurity] ~ $ /bin/netstat -anp |grep 'tcp\|udp' | awk '{print $5}' 15:22 < kim> 64.161.255.2:6668 15:22 < kim> 194.68.45.50:6665 15:22 < Clorith> IRC... 15:22 < kim> 66.252.10.2:58561 15:23 < kim> They use botnet I think 15:23 < Clorith> Please tell me you're not saying those are ddosing you as well ? 15:23 < Clorith> /dns those IPs ;) 15:23 < Clorith> Do you run a BNC or similar ? 15:23 < Clorith> because you just said irc.dal.net is part of it 15:23 < kim> Yes 15:24 < Clorith> well, port 6668 is a common IRC port 15:24 < kim> route add IP_Address gw 127.0.0.1 lo << This can work 15:24 < Clorith> 58561 is popular for BNC's 15:25 < mwalling> um 15:25 < mwalling> how are you under a ddos from 1 ip? 15:25 < Clorith> mwalling, he jsut said it's a botnet :P 15:25 < Clorith> didn't yo usee him lsit the Ips? xD 15:25 < mwalling> 15:16 < kim> My server under ddos attack from 66.252.10.2 15:25 < mwalling> i havent cought up yet 15:25 < Clorith> oh 15:26 < Clorith> I think he's misunderstanding the stuff he's connected to, as he lists dalnet as part of the ddosers 15:27 -!- sveiss [~sveiss@2001:470:1f09:2a4:21b:63ff:fe1b:abd3] has quit [Quit: sveiss] 15:27 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has joined #linode 15:28 < kim> Hm okay, a simple question how to secure a server being fool by ddoser? 15:29 < Clorith> Could you rephrase that ? 15:29 < mwalling> ssh lishuser@your.host.linode.com shutdown 15:29 < mwalling> or some smart iptables rules 15:39 -!- kim [~kim@118.100.166.38] has quit [Quit: kim] 15:40 < JDLSpeedy> lol, ok 15:41 < mikegrb> lolz 15:42 < Clorith> poor kid 15:44 < mwalling> not really 15:44 < mwalling> you reap what you sow 15:44 < Clorith> I don't get the context of that =/ 15:45 < mwalling> 15:23 < Clorith> Do you run a BNC or similar ? 15:45 < mwalling> 15:23 < kim> Yes 15:45 < Clorith> oh 15:46 < path-> background noise cancellation? 15:47 < irgeek> Binary nuisance causer? 15:47 * path- runs 15:49 -!- webPragmatist [~cleblanc@adsl-76-203-230-36.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode 15:50 < TheFirst> bnc's arent a problem if they're not run/used by idiots 15:50 * mwalling never said they were :) 15:50 < Clorith> well, when you think yo uare being DDoS'ed by the servers the yconnect to... 15:50 < Clorith> xD 15:51 < TheFirst> i never made a claim to the non-idiocy of the subject 15:51 < Clorith> oh well 15:52 < zeroday> installed svn today for my project \o/ 15:52 < zeroday> thought I might as well make use of it 15:53 < irgeek> git > svn 15:53 < TheFirst> i gotta get around to doing that 15:53 < zeroday> irgeek, all I need is something to keep track of my changes, svn seems to work fine for me 15:53 < zeroday> whats the benefit of Git? 15:54 < irgeek> Git does that too, but it doesn't require you to make a repository somewhere else then check it out. 15:55 < irgeek> With Git (and other distributed SCMs) your working copy /is/ the repository. 15:58 < irgeek> Plus you have the whole repository with you all the time so you can easily do all sorts of fun things like branches without being connected to the repository. 15:58 < irgeek> 16:00 < zeroday> lol 16:00 < mikegrb> lolz 16:08 -!- m0unds_ [~fracture@c-76-113-127-117.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:11 -!- m0unds_ [~fracture@c-76-113-127-117.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #linode 16:20 < irgeek> Uh, is it normal for my io rate to jump after migrating to Xen? 16:21 < irgeek> My io rate graph got much spikier. 16:22 < mwalling> yes 16:22 < mwalling> different units 16:22 < mwalling> one is in blocks/s one is ioops/s 16:22 < irgeek> That's what I figured. Thanks for confirming. 16:22 < mwalling> might want to adjust your alert threshold too 16:25 < irgeek> I don't even have that notification enabled. 16:26 < mwalling> in that case :) 16:30 < irgeek> Xen certainly seems snappier, but my scientist friends would probably call that "confirmation bias" 16:38 -!- zhiWerw [~rana@78.183.198.110] has joined #linode 16:38 -!- azuan [~Naveal@85.98.198.177] has joined #linode 16:38 -!- azuan [~Naveal@85.98.198.177] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a source of spam. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2008-05-24 20:38:08)] 16:38 -!- d-o-o-r [~Douceur@81.213.244.204] has joined #linode 16:38 -!- d-o-o-r [~Douceur@81.213.244.204] has quit [autokilled: This host is believed to be a home to spammers. - Contact support@oftc.net for help. 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(2008-05-24 20:38:33)] 16:39 < Clorith> wow 16:39 < Clorith> they actually OM'ed me this time 16:39 < Clorith> *PM'ed 16:39 < m0unds_> yeah, there's been a ton of bot spam on oftc 16:39 < m0unds_> annoying as hell 16:39 < Clorith> yeah 16:39 < Clorith> I'm well aware :P 16:41 -!- saurabh [~saurabh@c-76-124-82-183.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 16:41 -!- saurabh [~saurabh@c-76-124-82-183.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [] 16:43 < aaronpk> why would you even spam an irc room? seems like the user base would not be terribly susceptible to spam in the first place 16:43 < JDLSpeedy> for fun 16:43 -!- saurabh [~saurabh@c-76-124-82-183.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 16:44 < Clorith> skiddies that get picked on at school and need a way to act "powerfull" with their proxy bots 16:44 < saurabh> Hi.. do you guys have your own datacenter or do you use colacation? 16:44 < saurabh> I am asking because you list three datacenters, which sounds like a colocation 16:44 < zeroday> they own the servers 16:45 < mwalling> saurabh: colo 16:45 < zeroday> they rent space from the datacenter 16:45 < zeroday> afaik 16:45 < mwalling> saurabh: AlantaNAP, ThePlanet in dallas, and HurricaneElectric in Fremont 16:46 < saurabh> I am looking to start with the 360 slice, which is only available in Fremont, so that means its HurricaneElectric 16:46 < saurabh> thanks.. I will do some research on that. 16:46 -!- Solver [~robert@rbrockway.tor.istop.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47 < saurabh> another question.. in case of colo, how quick is the response time for hardware issues? 16:48 < mwalling> +o's are the employees, and in the past they have said that they have a spare sitting in each DC 16:49 < saurabh> sorry.. what is +o's ? 16:49 < JDLSpeedy> ops 16:49 < JDLSpeedy> operator of the channel 16:50 < zeroday> staff 16:50 < saurabh> ok.. thanks 16:50 < irgeek> I've been here five years and the response time to problems has always been good. I've got Linode's in all three data centers and problems have always been resolved rapidly. 16:51 < mwalling> irgeek: when there are problems too :) 16:51 * mwalling doesnt remember the last time he saw a hardware problem come up in the channel 16:51 < saurabh> ok.. probably last question. I am migrating from mediatemple.. because I think sahred IP at mediatemple is killing my site's reputation because of spammers on same IP 16:51 < irgeek> As with any data center, things happen. Linode has always been open an honest about what goes on and how it happened. 16:52 < saurabh> so.. my question is .. is there an easy tutorial, which will guide me on how to setup multiple domains on my servers on different IP addresses 16:52 < mwalling> saurabh: yes, you get a dedicated, publicly routable ip 16:52 < saurabh> i.e. i would need 3 domains.. on three different IP addresses, all running on same slice 16:53 < Clorith> well, you would haev to submit a justification form for the 3rd IP at least :P 16:53 < mwalling> saurabh: only if you're running SSL 16:53 < irgeek> saurabh: You can buy one extra IP for $1/month. If you need more, you have to justify it because IPV4 space will run out in about 1000 days. 16:53 < mwalling> saurabh: HTTP/1.1 supports this nifty thing called Virtual Hosting 16:54 < mwalling> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/ 16:54 < irgeek> If you're running SSL on each IP, that is usually enough justification. 16:54 < saurabh> justification is that they are different domains.. but i am looking for technical help 16:54 < irgeek> That's not justification for separate IPs anymore. 16:54 < Clorith> you can point the same ip at multipel domains 16:54 < zeroday> apache can host multiple sites on 1 ip 16:54 < zeroday> virtual host or something 16:55 < Clorith> quite easily as well 16:55 < Clorith> even I can set it up manually :P 16:55 < saurabh> ok. I would still be okay with sharing the IP with only my sites v/s on the grid 16:55 < saurabh> so, two are enough 16:56 < saurabh> mwalling - http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/ thanks for this - this is exactly what I was looking for 16:56 < irgeek> What do you mean by sharing the IP with only my sites v/s on the grid? 16:56 < saurabh> have a good day everyone 16:56 < irgeek> The IP you get is yours. Nobody else will be on it. 16:56 < saurabh> igreek - on this linode slice, I will share my Ip with my own sites.. currently I am sharing with many sites at mediatemple 16:56 < zeroday> saurabh, you will get 1 ip at first, all yours 16:57 < zeroday> you will have to justify more 16:57 < mwalling> and linode doesnt call them slices... thats slicehost's term 16:57 < saurabh> ok.. thanks zeroday 16:57 < zeroday> saurabh, you're using shared hosting right? 16:57 < irgeek> Ah. Yeah. It's all yours. And by the way, people will slap you around here for calling it a slice. There's a certain company that uses that term but provides a different service. 16:57 < cruxeternus> And saying you expect spam or problems from one of the domains, so you want to put it on it's own, probably isn't going to fly. :) 16:57 < caker> mwalling: I don't mind diluting their brand a bit 16:57 < saurabh> mwalling - I have been reading about both companies today.. so I guess I am using that term 16:58 < mwalling> caker: hehe... didnt want to start trouble :) 16:59 < saurabh> thanks guys.. seeing an active support / community on a Saturday gives me enough confidence to signup 16:59 < saurabh> have a good day everyone 16:59 < zeroday> ^_^ 16:59 < irgeek> saurabh: If nothing else, Linode is awesome for the support and the community around it. 17:00 < mwalling> linode > * 17:00 < Clorith> ^ what mwalling said 17:00 < mikegrb> silly mwalling that's not fanboyism, that's the truth 17:00 < Clorith> haha 17:00 < mwalling> :) 17:00 < mwalling> mikegrb: <3 17:01 < mwalling> caker: <3 17:01 < mwalling> tasaro: i said bye twice - but promise - this is my last post - I started two chat sessions - the second one at this address - and NO ONE has joined YET o answer, and all my questions were answered here.. 17:01 < mikegrb> TheFirst: :p 17:01 < saurabh> https://slicehost.campfirenow.com/489cc 17:01 < TheFirst> mikegrb: ? 17:01 < mikegrb> er 17:01 < mikegrb> tasaro: :p 17:01 < Clorith> mwalling, you skipped one :P 17:01 < Clorith> poor jadoba 17:01 < irgeek> mwalling: You forgot jadoba 17:01 < cruxeternus> saurabh: That's not surprising. :P 17:02 < mwalling> jadoba: Most of the SliceHost reps join here, to troll #linode. 17:02 < zeroday> I thought jadoba was the new bot 17:02 < irgeek> zeroday: He's an employee-bot 17:03 < Clorith> I fee lsorry for linbot, hidden away amongst us regulars xD 17:03 < cruxeternus> !rr 17:03 < linbot> cruxeternus: *click* 17:03 < m0unds_> add a megahal module to an eggdrop bot and put him in here and make him a sales agent 17:04 -!- saurabh [~saurabh@c-76-124-82-183.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: saurabh] 17:06 -!- meff [~meff@mirror.looking-glass.spherevision.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06 -!- mode/#linode [+o linbot] by caker 17:07 < irgeek> !rr 17:07 < linbot> irgeek: *click* 17:07 < m0unds_> !rr 17:07 -!- m0unds_ was kicked from #linode by linbot [BANG!] 17:07 * linbot reloads and spins the chambers. 17:07 -!- m0unds_ [~fracture@c-76-113-127-117.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #linode 17:07 < m0unds_> damn it. 17:07 < irgeek> HaHa! 17:07 < mwalling> damn, flightgear is alot of fun, but i cant get teh damn engine to turn over 17:07 < mwalling> and i cant find the checklists 17:08 < m0unds_> is that the OSS flight sim? 17:08 * caker downloads 17:09 < caker> mmmm helicopters 17:09 < mwalling> yeah 17:09 < m0unds_> right on 17:09 < m0unds_> i'll have to check it out sometime 17:10 < irgeek> I think we used that a couple of years ago while developing an autonomous heli bot. 17:10 < m0unds_> neat 17:10 < irgeek> We also had the USB RC controller so people could play. I sucked. 17:10 < m0unds_> haha 17:11 < cruxeternus> Australia makes weapons? 17:11 < irgeek> I don't live in Aussie. 17:11 < irgeek> But I am an Aussie. 17:11 < cruxeternus> Oh, my bad. 17:11 < cruxeternus> We let Australians build our weapons? 17:12 < irgeek> o_O Ubuntu 8.04 wants to import my XP account for the other partition. That's cool. 17:12 < Clorith> o_O neat 17:13 < irgeek> cruxeternus: It wasn't a weapon. It was for search and "rescue" 17:14 < cruxeternus> And the military spends billions a year on "hammers" for the Dept. of Interior. 17:14 < irgeek> They need a lot of hammers. There are lots of nails in the interior. 17:16 -!- Armando [~5304d22c@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 17:16 < irgeek> And don't let the America-hating hippies tell you different! 17:16 < Armando> Hello everyone 17:16 < cruxeternus> Hello Armando 17:16 < Armando> My VPS got name something like "li29-293" in console 17:16 < Armando> can I change it somehow? 17:17 < Armando> just to pimp it out :D 17:17 < cruxeternus> Yes, you can set up a Reverse DNS. 17:17 < cruxeternus> You can also change your hostname within the distribution itself. 17:17 < Armando> no no, I'm not talking about hostname 17:17 < Armando> in console 17:18 < cruxeternus> Yes, that's showing the hostname it grabbed from DHCP. 17:18 < Armando> where I can see li29-293: cd /var/log 17:18 < Armando> or something like that 17:18 < cruxeternus> That is your hostname. 17:18 < Armando> so I have to change revdns? 17:18 < Clorith> no, change the nostnaem o nthe distro 17:18 < cruxeternus> Well, if all you want to change... is the name in the console. 17:18 < mattt416> americna hating hippies 17:18 < cruxeternus> Then just echo "newhostname > /etc/hostname 17:18 < cruxeternus> and reload it 17:19 < cruxeternus> er: echo "newhostname" > /etc/hostname 17:19 < cruxeternus> Mind the closed quotes :P 17:19 < Armando> okay 17:19 < Armando> and about revdns, what I have to add to dns manager 17:19 < Armando> to be able to set it as my revdns? 17:20 < irgeek> Set up your forward DNS then go to the dashboard and you can set reverse. 17:20 < caker> FlightGear seems to want lotsa ram 17:21 < irgeek> rDNS is under Linode Manager -> Network -> Reverse DNS 17:21 < mwalling> caker: never played ms's version have you 17:21 < Armando> well I got domain added with ns1.linode.com/ns2.linode.com 17:21 < Armando> it works with www, logging to ssh 17:21 < caker> I can't even get the engine started .. time for docs! 17:22 < irgeek> Armando: You have a domain in the DNS manager? Set up and A record for the hostname you want that points to you IP. 17:22 < mwalling> caker: look towards the bottom of the center stack, grab the red handle and push it all the way in 17:22 < mwalling> then 's' to crank 17:22 * mikegrb cranks mwalling 17:22 < irgeek> Armando: Once that gets loaded (15 minutes) you can do the rDNS. 17:23 < caker> Pretty sure this is craft specific 17:23 * caker is in a heli 17:23 < mwalling> oh 17:23 < Clorith> haha, poor caker 17:23 * Clorith hands caker some cake 17:23 < Clorith> cheer up 17:23 < mwalling> caker: you got a flight stick? 17:23 < Armando> o okay, works now 17:23 < cruxeternus> Is it multiplayer? 17:23 < Armando> I thought the * in A will be enough 17:23 < Armando> but it wasn't 17:23 < mwalling> cruxeternus: seems to be 17:23 -!- saurabh [~saurabh@c-76-124-82-183.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 17:23 < Armando> now I have to reboot? 17:23 < mwalling> caker: if you can fly that with a kbd, i'll love you 17:24 < mwalling> saurabh: you sign up yet? ;) 17:24 < irgeek> If you want the name in your console, you need to reboot. 17:24 < irgeek> But before you do.... 17:24 < irgeek> Edit /etc/hosts and add a line for your IP. It should look like this: 17:24 < saurabh> I am back with a question guys -> i read that I can see stats on my cpu & bandwidth usage. Do you also provide stats on the memory usage? The VPS is based on memory.. how would I know when is the time to upgrade 17:25 < irgeek> x.x.x.x hostname.domain.tld hostname 17:25 < cruxeternus> saurabh: When your processes run out of memory. :) 17:25 < saurabh> mwalling - i was on signup page.. and cam back with a question 17:25 < cruxeternus> saurabh: At some point you'll hit swap, and things will get really, really slow. 17:25 < irgeek> saurabh: Linode can't see the memory usage inside your Linode. 17:25 < irgeek> You can set up your own monitoring. 17:26 < mwalling> saurabh: just think of the vps as a dedicated box, but you share the hardware... in that sense its not much different from a linux box sitting on the floor next to your desk 17:26 < irgeek> But if you watch your swap usage you should be fine. 17:26 < saurabh> so, is there a command which can tell me the current swap uages? I can put that in cron job every 30 minutes or so? 17:27 < irgeek> I like procinfo for checking that kind of stuff 17:28 < saurabh> ok.. thanks 17:28 < saurabh> bye 17:29 -!- mendel [crabby@76-10-159-31.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:29 < saurabh> this threas tells me that about a year ago, I would have only gotten 128 MB memory for the same price, which gives me 360 today 17:29 < saurabh> http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-588640.html 17:29 < Armando> Forcing reload of web server (apache2)...apache2: Syntax error on line 668 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 45 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.save: without matching section 17:30 < Armando> wtf? 17:30 < Armando> after changing revdns and reboot 17:30 < Clorith> saurabh, that's right 17:30 < mwalling> saurabh: yes... for christmas this year caker gave us all MORRAM 17:30 < mwalling> :) 17:30 < Clorith> he als otreated us to cake :P 17:30 < mikegrb> mmm cake 17:30 < irgeek> saurabh: We get presents. :) 17:31 < Clorith> although I've only been here since February =( 17:31 < irgeek> Armando: It looks like that's not all that changed. Did you check the Apache file? 17:31 < Armando> what do you mean? 17:31 < Armando> it was working without any problems be4 17:31 < irgeek> Oh wait, you left a .save file in sites.enabled. Move it to sites.disabled. 17:33 < irgeek> Did you reload Apache after your last edits in sites.enabled? 17:33 < Armando> yes 17:33 < Armando> now I rebooted vps and its dead 17:34 < irgeek> Well /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.save has an error in it. It looks like you edited the file and saved a copy. Apache loads everything in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ so it's loading the file with the error. 17:35 < Armando> ok, I just moved it from there 17:36 < Armando> and its starting 17:36 < Armando> is that file important enough? 17:36 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36 < Armando> so I have to fix it or can I just forget 17:36 -!- saurabh [~saurabh@c-76-124-82-183.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: saurabh] 17:36 < irgeek> Is there a etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default file? 17:37 < Armando> yup 17:37 < irgeek> Then that's probably the real file. How are you setting up your Apache? By hand or with a management package? 17:38 < Armando> I installed it using apt-get on debian 17:38 < Armando> but yes, I was looking into 000-default and .save was my backup 17:38 < Armando> looks like I fucked up backup, not the real file :D 17:38 < jetlag> you should edit in sites-available 17:39 < jetlag> and sites-enabled should be just be links to files in sites-available 17:39 < irgeek> The idea is to not edit anything in site-enabled. That directory should only contain symlinks to files in sites-available. You edit the files there to make changes. 17:39 < Armando> well as you probably noticed I'm newbie in linux/vps/apache stuff 17:39 < irgeek> That way if you create a save file, Apache doesn't try to load it. 17:40 < Armando> it's my 2nd day with linux and I'm ahppy to make it all working 17:40 < Armando> okay, now I will know 17:40 < irgeek> I think the sites.enabled & sites.available thing is mostly Debian & Ubuntu specific. I could be wrong about that. 17:41 < jetlag> yeah, debian messes with everything 17:41 -!- saurabh [~saurabh@c-76-124-82-183.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 17:41 < saurabh> guys I am back 17:41 < bd_> all distros mess with the apache configuration :P 17:41 < azaghal> Debian-specific. It's just that the base config file includes the enabled directory. 17:41 < bd_> how else would they get installed modules to work automagically 17:41 < saurabh> what does "validating the membership means"? Will I get a phone call 17:42 < jetlag> they run a credit report 17:42 < bd_> saurabh: If you just signed up, a staff member will have to review your account before enabling it 17:42 < bd_> and no, there's no credit report 17:42 < jetlag> and have local police drive by your house 17:42 < bd_> that's something different 17:42 < irgeek> That depends. I think tasaro is doing the activations right now. 17:42 < saurabh> :) 17:42 < jetlag> i'm just joking 17:42 < Clorith> saurabh, it takes a few minutes really :P 17:42 < Armando> how long should I wait for changing my revdns? 17:42 < saurabh> thanks.. 17:42 < Clorith> I had all mine within a minute =D 17:42 < bd_> they check your address info etc against what's on file with your bank 17:43 < bd_> Clorith: Sure, if they're in the office :P 17:43 < irgeek> If you used a real credit card, and it's actually yours, don't worry. 17:43 < Clorith> they're always in the office :P 17:43 < Clorith> I got my 1st one on a sunday :D 17:43 < mwalling> bd_: the time counts on the weekends too 17:43 < irgeek> Armando: It can take a couple of days. 17:43 < mwalling> caker crackss that whip 17:45 < irgeek> Armando: Those two Apache directories can be managed with a2dissite and a2ensite 17:46 < weasel> or ln and rm. 17:47 < irgeek> That too. 17:47 * weasel never understood why there were a2{en,dis}site 17:47 < Armando> okay, and one question more, sorry for bothering you guys :D 17:47 < Armando> I've got my apache documentroot in /home/user/public_html 17:48 < Armando> every added domain points to that directory 17:48 < Armando> how to make for example superdomain.com 17:48 < irgeek> On purpose, or is that the problem? 17:48 < Armando> make to point to /home/user/public_html/superdomain 17:49 < Armando> well every domain which I will add now points to the same site 17:49 < irgeek> You need to set up a VirtualHost for superdomain.com 17:49 < mattt416> Armando: i changed my rdns yesterday evening, still waiting on it to get done :/ 17:49 < Armando> what doesn't make big sense for me 17:49 < Armando> irgeek: how to do it correctly? 17:50 < irgeek> Hold on. Let me get some visual aids... 17:52 < irgeek> My /etc/site-available/000-default looks like this: http://p.linode.com/813 17:53 < irgeek> I mean /etc/apache2/site-available/000-default 17:53 < Armando> yeah, looks familiar :D 17:54 < irgeek> Hold on... 17:54 < Armando> so I will have to change DocumentRoot there 17:55 < saurabh> which Linux distribution should I choose? I need to host phpbb & wordpress (mysql & php). 17:56 < irgeek> No, don't change it there. 17:57 < irgeek> I also have files like /etc/apache2/sites-available/irgeek.com which look like this: http://p.linode.com/814 17:57 < azaghal> saurabh: You could try out several distros, making separate partition for each. 17:58 < azaghal> The setup is quite quick :) 17:58 < irgeek> saurabh: Ubuntu is pretty user friendly, but it takes some getting used to--like what I'm explaining to Armando now. :) 17:58 < saurabh> thanks azaghal - is there one, which allows remote desktop and GUI 17:58 < irgeek> saurabh: Are you sure you want that? 17:58 < saurabh> azaghal.. its not setup yet, but I have started reading tutorials on how to setup :) 17:58 < irgeek> It will eat up your RAM in a hurry. 17:59 < saurabh> no - i don't want it 17:59 < Armando> k, so I need to create file like that 17:59 < azaghal> saurabh: Hm... But why would you want desktop? 17:59 < Armando> now how I can let apache load it in sites-enabled? 17:59 < saurabh> i just need plain web server.. no feature freek :) 17:59 < azaghal> Well, no need for desktop then :) 17:59 < saurabh> yes 17:59 < irgeek> Armando: Yeah, then you can symlink it into the sites-enabled so Apache can find it. 17:59 < saurabh> i was getting distracted 18:00 < azaghal> And any distro should allow for remote access via ssh. 18:00 < irgeek> Yes. Definitely. 18:00 < mwalling> afaik, all of the images are preconfigured for ssh 18:00 < Armando> how to 'symlink' it? 18:00 < mwalling> man ln 18:00 < jetlag> use 'a2ensite' 18:01 < azaghal> It's mostly a matter of preferance on the distro you choose - personally I like Debian. 18:01 < mwalling> i would also recommend either debian or ubuntu 18:01 < saurabh> is this command specific to ubuntu.."apt-get install mysql-server" . .. or installing my-sql is as simple in all distros 18:01 < irgeek> cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled; ln -s ../sites-available/site-config-file . 18:01 < irgeek> Notice the trailing dot on that command... 18:02 < mwalling> saurabh: apt-get is part of debian's package management, which ubuntu inherits 18:02 < azaghal> Hm... Btw, related to the recent OpenSSL Debian package vulnerability, did Linode change the installations to use the update openssl library for generation of keys? 18:02 < saurabh> thanks mwalling 18:02 < irgeek> saurabh: apt-get is Debian & Ubuntu. Most of the others have similar mechanisms. 18:02 < saurabh> thanks irgeek.. will read about these two and finalize one of these two 18:03 < irgeek> azaghal: You need to do that yourself - apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade 18:03 < azaghal> You might want to take a look at aptitude as well (which is just a frontend to apt-get, but is nice) 18:03 < jetlag> Armando, you should really read this https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html 18:03 < azaghal> irgeek: Ok, just wanted to check :) 18:03 < mwalling> azaghal: i thought aptitude != apt-get 18:04 < mikegrb> azaghal: not really a front end to apt-get 18:04 < irgeek> mwalling: aptitude ~ apt-get 18:04 < azaghal> Really? 18:04 < mikegrb> an alternativite to apt-get 18:04 < azaghal> Hm... Accepted the same arguments, so I guess it got me a bit confused :) 18:05 < mikegrb> preforms the same function as apt, just better 18:05 < mikegrb> they are both front ends to dselect 18:05 < azaghal> Yes, I've noticed it can do installation of "sets" 18:05 < azaghal> Haven't used Debian that much, at home I run Gentoo. 18:06 < mwalling> -OMGOPTIMIZE! 18:06 < cruxeternus> -funrolls-loops, baby 18:06 < irgeek> -fracing-stripes 18:06 < Armando> irgeek: ok, now I get it :D 18:06 < irgeek> \o/ 18:07 < Armando> can you explain me what does ln -s command and 2 dots do? 18:07 < azaghal> mwalling: Actually, I don't care that much about such optimisations, I mostly like being able to build features I want ;) 18:08 < azaghal> (in a somewhat easy way) 18:08 < Armando> o, okay nevermind I got it 18:08 < Armando> irgeek: big respect for your patience, I'm getting pissed with my own problems :D 18:09 < Armando> priv me your paypal address or whatever, I will send you money for beer 18:09 < Armando> :D 18:09 < irgeek> Short answer: .. = parent directory, . = current directory 18:09 < azaghal> Actually, 5 bambis for irgeek for being friendly to newbie questions - I respect that in people, since most are "RTFM" all the time ;) 18:09 < mwalling> azaghal: i would agree to your comment as a reason i use my own distro of choice, but i dont want to start another holy war like i did yesterday 18:10 < irgeek> Armando: If you're serious, donate here instead: http://cms.komen.org/komen/index.htm 18:10 < azaghal> mwalling: The thing is - you pick what you like and enjoy using. In my case, Gentoo proved to be the best choice. 18:11 < jetlag> FreeBSD for life 18:11 < azaghal> mwalling: I actually get annoyed by the whole Gnome vs KDE, and distro wars as well. 18:11 < Armando> irgeek: of course I will send 10$ there 18:12 * irgeek has strong opinions about what distros are useful in certain situations but will keep them to himself. 18:13 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has joined #linode 18:13 < irgeek> azaghal: I was a newbie once, with a great mentor who guided me in the right directions. Five years later, he gave me a job running an ISP he was starting. :0 18:13 < irgeek> :) 18:14 < azaghal> Heheh. I mostly had to learn things by myself - way too little Free Software users here :) 18:14 < Armando> irgeek: done 18:14 < azaghal> Err... Here as in my country. 18:14 < Armando> and thanks for help once again ;) 18:14 < irgeek> It was awesome. Until the market crashed and our VC lost all his money two days before signing the contract that would have kept is afloat. 18:15 < irgeek> Armando: Thanks. 18:15 -!- Toba__ [~eastein@pool-151-203-51-97.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15 < irgeek> azaghal: What country? 18:15 < azaghal> Serbia 18:15 < azaghal> (the one of those which voted "Approve" on OOXML :P ) 18:16 < Armando> but next time 18:16 < irgeek> Have you found a LUG? 18:16 < Armando> you will have to buy a beer for that 18:16 < Armando> if you will help me out from big problems once again :D 18:16 < azaghal> irgeek: Heh, there was a LUG started at Belgrade, but members were not ready to put more effort into it. 18:16 < Armando> but hopefully I'm not expecting anymore ;) 18:16 < azaghal> Novi Sad (2nd largest city in country) started a LUG as well which is functioning much better. 18:16 < irgeek> azaghal: Classic open software problem--maintaining a community is hard work. 18:17 < azaghal> irgeek: Well, the thing is that there are not many users here, government's bought by M$, and people have too easy access to pirated (arr, women and children first) software. 18:17 < irgeek> Armando: I have plenty of beer money. Don't worry. 18:18 < azaghal> As always, Free Software stays mostly invisible being used in server setups ;) 18:19 < irgeek> azaghal: I know what you mean. It was like that in Egypt. The IT guys there thought it was perfectly fine for an International company traded on three stock exchanges to run pirated copies of Windows & Exchange. 18:19 < irgeek> Setting them straight took about two months. 18:19 < azaghal> Well, companies now need to have legal software, but private users are mostly unaffected. 18:20 < azaghal> The biggest problem is that schools are teaching students using M$ products. 18:20 < irgeek> Armando: I'm guessing this is a new Debian install? You need to run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you aren't using weak keys for SSH. 18:21 < irgeek> azaghal: Yeah, education in Egypt is very expensive for most people, but MS training classes are so subsidized by MS they are almost free. 18:21 < Armando> irgeek: done, thanks for info 18:22 -!- Toba [~eastein@pool-151-203-51-97.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #linode 18:22 < irgeek> Did it regenerate your keys? 18:22 < irgeek> If so, you'll get an error the next time you SSH in. 18:23 < Armando> yeah 18:23 < Armando> on ssh server and proftpd 18:23 < irgeek> proftpd has keys? 18:23 < irgeek> FTP-over-SSL? 18:23 < Armando> well not keys, just security fixes 18:23 < Armando> I'm getting an error now, what should I do? 18:24 -!- Toba [~eastein@pool-151-203-51-97.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 18:24 -!- Toba [~eastein@pool-151-203-51-97.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #linode 18:24 < irgeek> SSHing in? 18:25 < irgeek> You need to remove the old key fingerprint from the known_hosts file on your workstation. Not the server, the computer you're actually sitting in front of. 18:25 < irgeek> Are you on unix? 18:25 < Armando> server unexpectedly closed network connection 18:25 < irgeek> Or linux? 18:25 < irgeek> That's weird. 18:25 < irgeek> Do you get an error sshing back in? 18:26 < Armando> well I can't connect through mydomain.com 18:26 < irgeek> Armando: Are you working from a Linux box? Windows? BSD? ... 18:27 < Armando> windows, using putty 18:27 < irgeek> I mean the computer you're actually sitting in front of right now. 18:27 < Armando> righ tnow 18:27 -!- r3z` [~r3z@c-68-58-96-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27 < Armando> Windows 18:27 -!- r3z` [~r3z@c-68-58-96-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #linode 18:27 < irgeek> Look in your My Documents folder for a file called known_hosts - it may be easier to search for it. 18:28 < irgeek> I can't remember where putty hides it, but I'm 99% sure it's in My Documents 18:28 < mwalling> registry 18:28 < Armando> nothing in my documents, going to look in registry then 18:29 < irgeek> mwalling: I thought only the hosts you define in the interface do in the registry. Keys and known hosts are still in file... 18:29 < mwalling> also, i'm 90% sure that its just a dialog box when the host key changes 18:29 < mwalling> irgeek: oh... 18:29 < irgeek> Nope. You're right. They are in the registry. 18:30 < mwalling> Armando: check in %HOME% then... usually Documents\ and\ Settings\You\ 18:30 < Armando> yeah found it 18:30 < mwalling> god.. i've been using cygwin too much 18:32 < cruxeternus> haha 18:32 < irgeek> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SimonTatham\PuTTY <-- It's there in the registry 18:33 < Armando> well, I deleted ssh keys 18:33 < Armando> and still same error 18:33 < Armando> I will try to restart vps 18:33 < irgeek> You shouldn't need to do that. 18:33 < mwalling> log into lish 18:33 < mwalling> verify that ssh is running 18:34 < mwalling> (also, this is linux not windows... reboots arent required every 15 seconds) 18:35 < JDLSpeedy> ouch 18:35 < irgeek> If I ever meet the guy that borked openssl on Debian, I think I'll punch him in the face. 18:35 < irgeek> Armando: Still there? 18:36 < Armando> yeah 18:36 < Armando> trying to work it out 18:36 < irgeek> Log into the dashboard and click the console tab. There's an ssh command there. SSH to that host. 18:36 < irgeek> That will give you console access if your ssh isn't running. 18:36 < azaghal> irgeek: Ahem... Read the history logs for the package? ;) 18:38 < Armando> well I logged it without problems 18:38 < irgeek> I've been meaning to do that, but haven't gotten around to it. I know the reasoning was because of bug-catching software that was not happy about using uninitialized memory. 18:38 < irgeek> To the console or ssh straight to your Lindode? 18:38 < irgeek> Linode 18:38 < Armando> lish 18:39 < irgeek> OK. As root run ssh-vulnkey 18:39 -!- andrew_j_w [~andrew@88-97-29-168.dsl.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:39 < Armando> 2 keys COMPROMISED and one unknown 18:40 < irgeek> OK. We need to regenerate those. 18:40 < azaghal> Heh, probably the ugliest vulnerability bug I've ever seen :) 18:40 < irgeek> There should be file names at the end of those keys... 18:41 < irgeek> As root, do "rm /key/file/name" 18:42 < Armando> done 18:43 < irgeek> Also do the rm with .pub removed from the key filename 18:43 < irgeek> .pub is the public key, we need to remove the private key as well. 18:44 < Armando> okay, left only one with Unknown status 18:44 < irgeek> Good. Now run "dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server" to regenerate them. 18:45 < Armando> . 18:45 < Armando> it says /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: openssh-server is broken or not fully installed 18:46 < irgeek> run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade again. 18:47 < irgeek> Were you using sudo before? 18:47 < Armando> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. 18:47 < Armando> nope, I'm using root after logging through 'login' 18:48 < irgeek> When you ran it before, in the ssh session, were you using sudo? 18:48 < irgeek> Try apt-get dist-upgrade again to see what that does. 18:48 < Armando> no 18:48 < irgeek> It looks like ssh is only half installed. 18:49 < Armando> I reconfigured with dpkg --configure -a, and apt-get update finished correctly 18:49 < Armando> after apt-get dist-upgrade I got: 18:49 < Armando> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 18:49 < irgeek> Does "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" work now? 18:51 < Armando> http://p.linode.com/815 18:51 < Armando> I XX'ed some digits and letters, because I don't know if someone can use it ;d 18:52 < irgeek> Fingerprints are fine. They are public key fingerprints anyway. 18:52 < irgeek> Strange. 18:52 < irgeek> Ok. Big guns. 18:53 < irgeek> Do "ls -l /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*" 18:53 < Internat> i noticed for the first time last night a ssh key attack using the blacklisted keys 18:54 < irgeek> It should look something like this: http://p.linode.com/816 18:54 < Armando> done 18:54 < azaghal> Internat: Well, it was bound to happen :) 18:54 < Armando> exactly 18:54 < Internat> yeah,none of my public/private keys were compromised so i was happy about that 18:54 < Internat> only my host keys were on a few boxes 18:54 < Armando> just got one rsa/dsa key less 18:55 < irgeek> Ok, good. Now we need to take care of them. If you're typing/copy & pasting this command, be careful you get all of it. "rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*" 18:55 < cruxeternus> Did Linode.com go down for anyone else? 18:55 < azaghal> Internat: Heh, I regenrated several keys, for mail services, Apache, and Jabber server. 18:56 < irgeek> cruxeternus: It's fine for me 18:56 < Internat> ooh.. actually i didnt check mail server keys.. 18:56 < Internat> hmms 18:56 < Internat> brb 18:56 < azaghal> lol 18:56 < mikegrb> lolz 18:56 < Armando> done 18:56 < irgeek> I got lucky--my keys all predate the bug getting checked in. \o/ 18:56 < azaghal> Internat: What I'm wondering is if somebody found out and tried to exploit the vulnerability before it was announced :) 18:56 < cruxeternus> Can someone give me a pingable IP in the Dallas DC? 18:56 < mwalling> !download 18:56 < linbot> http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 18:56 < cruxeternus> thanks 18:57 < cruxeternus> heh 18:57 < mwalling> cruxeternus: i'm sitting in dallas, no problems 18:57 < cruxeternus> I can't access that link 18:57 < cruxeternus> because I can't get to linode.com :) 18:57 < irgeek> Armando: Ok, now run "dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server" 18:57 < mwalling> t r a c e r o u t e 18:57 < cruxeternus> mwalling: That's why I wanted the IP :P 18:57 < azaghal> mwalling: bash: t: command not found ;) 18:58 < Armando> created 3 keys 18:58 < Armando> and it works now 18:58 < irgeek> Good. Now do /etc/init.d/ssh restart 18:58 < cruxeternus> 12: vl1.car02.dllstx2.theplanet.com (12.96.160.12) 68.527ms asymm 15 18:58 < irgeek> You should be able to ssh in and your keys are safe. 18:58 < Internat> 20 jan 2006 my mail keys were done.. good good :) 18:58 < cruxeternus> I'm getting that far, then "no reply" forever 18:59 < Armando> everything is good now, thanks :D 18:59 < Armando> how often should I update them? 18:59 < irgeek> No problem. 18:59 < Armando> or how can I check if they are safe 18:59 < irgeek> You don't need to do it again. This was a single-time screw up on Debian's part. 18:59 < Internat> i never did look up, but what actuall caused the bug? 19:00 < saurabh> its over an hour guys and account is not activated yet.. so.. all the people who are helping here are "other linode users", and no admins? I signed up thinking that the forum is actively supported. 19:00 < irgeek> Internat: They took randomness out of the key generation. 19:00 < mwalling> saurabh: only the ops are admins 19:00 < Armando> okay, thanks once again 19:00 < cruxeternus> mwalling: Can you ping 19:00 < cruxeternus> whoops 19:00 -!- Eleo [~user@adsl-69-212-158-145.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has quit [] 19:00 < cruxeternus> Can you ping 66.93.172.1 from Dallas? 19:01 < saurabh> mwalling - what is ops 19:01 < saurabh> the top 5 in the list with an @ sign? 19:01 < cruxeternus> Channel operator status... gusy with @nick. 19:01 < Armando> irgeek: thanks for help once again 19:01 < mwalling> yes 19:01 < cruxeternus> mwalling: Thanks. 19:01 < Internat> how the hell did they manage that? 19:01 < mwalling> saurabh: except for linbot... hes a bot 19:01 < Armando> now I'm heading to sleep, its 1am here 19:01 < mwalling> cruxeternus: 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 3998ms 19:01 < mwalling> cruxeternus: ping me 19:01 < Armando> good night everyone ;) 19:01 < cruxeternus> I'm dying at vl1.car02.dllstx2.theplanet.com / vl2.car02.dllstx2.theplanet.com 19:01 < cruxeternus> mwalling: What's your IP? 19:01 < mwalling> cruxeternus: /whois 19:02 < saurabh> JUST GOT THE EMAIL :) I am active now :) 19:02 < cruxeternus> Oh. 19:02 < cruxeternus> IRC ping went through. 19:02 < mwalling> no niny 19:02 < Armando> even if its afternoon at you :D 19:02 < mwalling> icmp ping 19:02 < cruxeternus> Alright. 19:02 -!- Palintheus [trey@ip72-200-197-35.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #linode 19:02 -!- Armando [~5304d22c@webuser.linode.com] has left #linode [] 19:02 < cruxeternus> mwalling: That makes it. 19:03 < mwalling> ping what linbot is sitting onm? 19:05 < cruxeternus> I can ping/tracepath ns.theshore.net. 19:05 < cruxeternus> Still nothing to linode.com. 19:06 < irgeek> saurabh: Welcome to the good life! 19:06 < avongauss> Isn't vl2.car01.dllstx2.theplanet.com one of the last stops before your linode? 19:07 < cruxeternus> avongauss: Yes. According to the tracepaths to mwalling and ns.theshore.net. It's the last hop. 19:07 < irgeek> cruxeternus: It looks to me like the route from Dallas back to you is the problem. 19:08 < cruxeternus> mwalling can ping my DSL gateway here, if that is important 19:08 < mwalling> cruxeternus: if you can successfully ping me, pings from me -> you will also succed 19:08 < cruxeternus> So who do I call and yell at? :) 19:08 < mwalling> plus, i'm lazy 19:08 < cruxeternus> I owe Speakeasy some abuse! 19:09 < irgeek> cruxeternus: Ping 67.18.176.52 19:09 < cruxeternus> irgeek: Ok, one sec. 19:09 < cruxeternus> 64 bytes from 67.18.176.52: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=57.0 ms 19:09 < irgeek> That's in Dallas. 19:10 < cruxeternus> tracepath looks gorgeous too 19:10 < cruxeternus> So I'm baffled. 19:10 < irgeek> But you can't ping www.linode.com? 19:10 < cruxeternus> or linode.com 19:10 < mwalling> !dns linode.com 19:10 < linbot> mwalling: 67.18.186.61 19:10 < mwalling> try by ip 19:10 < cruxeternus> Negative :( 19:11 < cruxeternus> Did they null route me to linode.com? :) 19:11 < Internat> tracepath looks gorgeous? please tell me your not about to make lvoe to your tracepath..\ 19:11 < irgeek> The IP I gave you is behind the same router as linode.com. o_O 19:12 < cruxeternus> I meant.. tracepath completely quickly, and without errors. 19:12 < cruxeternus> :P 19:12 < azaghal> saurabh: I think I've read most ToS for VPS hosting solutions, and Linode looked like best option from that standpoint :) 19:12 < cruxeternus> irgeek: I don't doubt what you're saying. 19:13 < saurabh> thanks azaghal 19:13 < irgeek> Maybe linode.com is blocking you IP? :p 19:13 < cruxeternus> irgeek: I'm wondering... :( 19:13 < cruxeternus> But I play nice. 19:13 < cruxeternus> I also can't ping my Linode IP. 19:13 < irgeek> Maybe whoever had your IP last didn't/ 19:13 < cruxeternus> hehe 19:14 < cruxeternus> Although, I think I have my firewall set to DROP ICMP pings. So that may not be an indicator. 19:14 < saurabh> I have opted for ubuntu, between ubuntu and debian,, as I can install the desktop at home and have same OS on both sides... now question is -> The control panel has 4 versions of Ubuntu 19:14 < cruxeternus> (firewall on the Linode) 19:14 < straterra> What is the point of dropping pings? 19:14 < saurabh> any harm in going for the latest - version 8? 19:14 < straterra> Are you running Windows 98 that crashes with invalid ping packets? 19:14 < cruxeternus> straterra: Halve ICMP flood traffic? :P 19:14 < saurabh> or should I install an older release (more stable ?) 19:14 < straterra> cruxeternus: uhm..you still get the pipe filled up 19:15 < irgeek> Maybe your computer is a zombie and it's attacking Linode. 19:15 < straterra> Blocking the actual ping does..nothing useful 19:15 < cruxeternus> straterra: Just makes things a little more annoying for people trying to find servers to crack. 19:15 < irgeek> saurabh: Use 8.04 - It's the newest Long Term Support version 19:15 -!- Guest1150 [~mwalling@edison.dstar.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15 < straterra> If they were smart they'd do a UDP ping or something BESIDES a ICMP ping 19:16 < saurabh> thanks irgreek 19:16 < cruxeternus> straterra: I drop all UDP too :) 19:16 < irgeek> saurabh: Hold on one second... 19:16 < irgeek> I want you to try something... 19:16 < saurabh> ok 19:17 < saurabh> igreek - also suggest me the disk size.. i am thinking of 2 Gig for the OS partition and then create another disk for app (for mysql) 19:17 < saurabh> i have a total of 10 gig available 19:18 < irgeek> Actually, have you used Linux before? I'm working on a setup guide, but it's a command walk-through right now. I haven't added the explanations yet. Are you comfortable following that? I'll be here to help if you are. 19:18 < saurabh> sure 19:18 < saurabh> I have used solaris before 19:19 < saurabh> and have used linux for setting up cron etc.. 19:19 < saurabh> never installed apache or mysql on linux before 19:19 < saurabh> but, i know the basic comands (i even know a for loop in ksh :) 19:21 < irgeek> OK. I'm just putting it up somewhere accessible now... 19:21 < saurabh> ok 19:23 < irgeek> saurabh: http://irgeek.com/LinodeUbuntuWalkthrough.html 19:23 < azaghal> It also might be a good idea to for the first installation play around a bit with the whole thing, then do a clean install for production server. 19:23 < saurabh> thanks 19:24 < irgeek> This is just to get to a functioning system that's set up properly. I haven't done it's the L part of LAMP. 19:24 < azaghal> Oh, and setting up key-based authenticaion _only_ via ssh might be an interesting idea as well. 19:25 < saurabh> irgreek - you suggest a root paartition of 4 gig.. do I really need 4 gig? 19:25 < irgeek> saurabh: As for disks, with 10G I'd suggest 3G for root 19:25 -!- r3z`` [~r3z@c-68-58-96-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #linode 19:25 < irgeek> My walkthrough notes are from a yearly-paid plan so I had 15G to play with. 19:25 -!- r3z` [~r3z@c-68-58-96-186.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26 < saurabh> ok 19:26 < irgeek> I keep all web and email data under /var do that is my biggest partition. 19:26 < saurabh> and what's Lish? That is recommended as first step in your docs.. the control panel recommends installing alinux distro as the first step 19:26 < irgeek> Lish is the console you can ssh to. 19:27 < irgeek> That's in the dashboard under console. 19:27 < azaghal> You can think of it as a failsafe access if you manage to lock yourself out with wrong iptables command (for example :) 19:27 < saurabh> ok 19:27 < saurabh> so its not required as first step. 19:27 < saurabh> I can do this at any time 19:27 < saurabh> right? 19:28 < irgeek> Yeah, but I'd appreciate you following along. Just click Cosole at the top and set a password. 19:28 < azaghal> Yes, but you'll want to set it up right away. 19:28 < irgeek> It takes two seconds... 19:29 < irgeek> Don't worry about deploying keys for now. 19:29 < saurabh> ok.. following it line by line :) 19:29 < irgeek> But definitely disable Lassie while you set up or you won't be able to boot specific profiles easily. 19:30 < mwalling> does python have a simple way of doing A record lookups? 19:30 < irgeek> Lassie is under Settings & Utilities 19:30 < mwalling> the only things i am finding are for more complicated things like MX or PTR 19:32 < HoopyCat> mwalling: google torcheck.py 19:32 < irgeek> saurabh: How's it going? 19:32 < saurabh> 1. "Set Lish password"->my feedback -> (click on console to get to Lish - then there is not option to set the password. You have to choose change password.) 19:32 < HoopyCat> mwalling: that's what i came up with a couple months back 19:33 < saurabh> do you want me to provide feedback here on chat or in a word doc with track changes? 19:34 < irgeek> Here in the channel is fine. 19:35 < irgeek> saurabh: Wait, you don't have a Lish Password box on the Console tab? I see one... 19:35 -!- Sindacious [~Xenu@12-214-171-98.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:36 < saurabh> no.. I had a tab for "change Lish password" 19:36 < saurabh> which i used.. it did not say, "set the initial password" 19:36 < irgeek> It must be different the first time. Thanks for noticing that. 19:36 < saurabh> 2. " Lish username & host" -> This probably just mean that "write down your Lish user name and host name,you will need that later..for doing something :)" 19:36 < irgeek> Yes. 19:37 < saurabh> Step 3.=> "deploy keys".. is there a key generator in dash board? 19:37 < irgeek> Don't worry about the keys for now, that's just a convenience feature. 19:37 < saurabh> or do i need to use my own key generator 19:37 < saurabh> ok.. 19:38 < saurabh> why do you suggest to disable Lassie? 19:38 < saurabh> why not let it reboot? 19:38 < irgeek> So it doesn't boot the wrong profile automagically while you're setting things up. 19:39 < saurabh> ok 19:39 < saurabh> done 19:39 < saurabh> this may also need this explaination -> "go to settings"... and "why" 19:39 < irgeek> Linux, Deploy! 19:40 < irgeek> Yeah, it will be fleshed out when when it goes up. These are my notes on what steps need to be taken. 19:40 < irgeek> If you're going to keep www and mail in /var/ you probably only need about 1G for /home 19:42 < saurabh> i won't use this server for mail 19:42 < saurabh> I am very afraid of using my web server as mail server, a small spam can cause my web host to shut down my web server :) 19:42 < saurabh> I chose 2 Gig for root 19:43 < saurabh> as ubuntu only needs 384 MB.. 19:43 < irgeek> saurabh: As long as you aren't /sending/ spam you won't get shut down. 19:44 < irgeek> You'll probably be alright with 2G 19:44 * Toba_ is using 4.2 gigs right now 19:44 < saurabh> I am happy with google apps for email 19:44 < irgeek> If you stick with ext2/ext3 you can resize later if needed. 19:44 < saurabh> ok.. step 1 -> Deploy an Ubuntu 8.04 LTS distribution. 19:44 -!- Sindacious [~Xenu@12-214-171-98.client.mchsi.com] has joined #linode 19:45 < saurabh> it was a little confusing - the button says "create profile" 19:45 < irgeek> I'll make a note. 19:45 -!- elky_ [~melissa@210.1.213.63] has joined #linode 19:45 < saurabh> may be before "Create a Home partition" you want to add "don't click on BOOT yet, you need to first add more drives, and then click on BOOT". 19:46 < irgeek> Yeah, I'll put all that in the explanations. 19:46 < mwalling> HoopyCat: thanks 19:46 -!- clanehin [~lane@cpe-069-134-066-130.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:46 < azaghal> Well, user does need to have some basic knowledge. 19:46 -!- elky_ [~melissa@210.1.213.63] has quit [] 19:47 < irgeek> saurabh: And this guide adds drives and extra profiles before we boot. 19:47 < saurabh> right. so to add /home drive, I need to click "Create a new Disk Image" 19:48 < irgeek> Yeah 19:48 < saurabh> sorry - I am not trying to "correct" what you wrote 19:48 < saurabh> just trying to suggest where newbies like me can get trapped. 19:49 < irgeek> Feedback is appreciated. I can do this in my sleep so it helps to have a fresh perspective. 19:49 < saurabh> like "Home" and "Var" should probably be "home" and "var" in your doc.. "lowercase" 19:49 < irgeek> I call the image Home and refer to the mount point as /home 19:50 -!- clanehin [~lane@cpe-069-134-066-130.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 19:50 < saurabh> oh.. I did not know they are different, should I delete "home" which I just created? 19:50 < saurabh> or is it fine with lower case? 19:50 < irgeek> The name doesn't matter. 19:51 < saurabh> if I go to image options, there is an option to duplicate the image 19:52 < saurabh> shouldn't I leave same amount of space free as my "/app", so that I can take snapshot backup once a while by using "duplicate image" option 19:52 < irgeek> That's if you want to do backups or move an image to another Linode. 19:53 < saurabh> right, so instaed of using all remaining space for var, shouldn't I just allocate 2 gig for var and leave 2 gig free 19:53 < irgeek> Why? You can resize later if you need space. 19:54 < saurabh> ok.. cool 19:54 < saurabh> I did not know that I can resize later 19:56 < saurabh> i created root, var and home.. I can't find this option "Edit wizard created profile" 19:57 < irgeek> Click the profile name 19:57 < saurabh> ok 19:59 < saurabh> I don't see " /dev/xvdc " 19:59 < irgeek> It's on the pull-down list. 20:00 < irgeek> Are your device /dev/ubda etc. 20:01 < saurabh> no.. I have hardcoded names.. pull down list has "home", "var" etc against that hard coded list.. here are the values in that list (one in each line) 20:01 < saurabh> my post is not showing up 20:01 < irgeek> Don't start with / 20:02 < saurabh> dev/ubda 20:02 < saurabh> dev/ubda /dev/ubdb /dev/ubdc /dev/ubdd /dev/ubde /dev/ubdf /dev/ubdg /dev/ubdh Uncompressed initrd image 20:02 < irgeek> You're on a UML host. 20:02 < saurabh> what is a UML host? 20:02 < saurabh> is it a bad thing 20:03 < irgeek> No. 20:03 < irgeek> It's just different name. 20:03 < saurabh> a search for UML host takes me to home page of Linode: ) http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=UML+host 20:03 < saurabh> ok 20:04 < saurabh> so, can I just choose one name for home, one for var and one for swap 20:04 < saurabh> or do I need to choose specific names 20:05 < irgeek> The only difference is whether then device name starts with xv or ub - just put in ub wherever there's an /dev/xv** 20:07 < saurabh> now when I read about it, I am tricked.. the home page says that Linode uses XEN vps 20:07 < saurabh> which is provided by citrix 20:07 < saurabh> when I was comparing, I noticed both slice & linode were using XEN 20:07 < irgeek> They do use Xen, but you landed on a UML host. 20:08 < irgeek> You can ask to be migrated. 20:08 < mwalling> uml is an older (and arguably more stable) technology. 20:08 < saurabh> ok.. if mwalling says it "more stable", I am happy :) 20:08 < saurabh> to the next step 20:09 < irgeek> Make sure you know which /dev/ub** maps to which disk image. 20:11 < cruxeternus> http://pastie.caboo.se/202887 <-- I still can't tracepath linode.com. Please tell me how to fix. :( 20:12 < saurabh> irgeek - where is the option to copy the profile? "Create Single User Profile" 20:12 < irgeek> You can't copy it. I meant copy in the sense of make a new profile look the same. 20:14 < saurabh> ok.. in the default profile - my root device is READ ONLY - is that Okay 20:14 < irgeek> No. Was that the default? 20:15 < saurabh> yes 20:15 < saurabh> the default is read only for root device 20:15 < irgeek> Wait. Mine's like that too. I think init remounts it rw when it starts. 20:17 -!- xitology [~xi@78.31.182.24] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:17 < mwalling> yes 20:17 < mwalling> fdisk will bitch and moan if / is mounted rw at boot 20:18 < mwalling> anything ! / can be rw 20:18 < saurabh> ok.. so all three profiles will have this as r/o which i default 20:18 < saurabh> in the recovery profile, you have suggested to keep -> dev/xvda = Recovery - Finnix (iso) 20:19 < saurabh> "Recovery - Finnix(iso)" is not listed in the other two profiles anywhere 20:19 < saurabh> is that okay> 20:19 < irgeek> Yeah. That's what boots the recovery system 20:20 < saurabh> in the single user prfile - its suggested to change from "boot" to "singgle user mode" 20:20 < saurabh> that's confusing - because there is no "boot" option under "run level" 20:20 < saurabh> its "Default Run Level" 20:21 < irgeek> I'll make a note of that. 20:22 < saurabh> "Log in via Lish & boot Recovery Profile" -> you mean use the AJAX control panel? 20:22 < irgeek> Not AJAX--through you could use that. 20:23 < irgeek> You can SSH to Lish. The ssh command is on the right of the AJAX console. 20:23 < saurabh> so I need putty for that? 20:23 < irgeek> Yes. 20:23 < saurabh> let me download putty 20:24 < saurabh> i will also need "keys" 20:24 < saurabh> or will ssh work without keys 20:24 < irgeek> SSH generates it's own keys. 20:25 < irgeek> We will, however, need to regenerate the keys on you Linode as they may have a problem. 20:25 < irgeek> But that comes later. 20:25 < saurabh> ok 20:26 < saurabh> server's host key is not cached in the reistr 20:27 < saurabh> registry 20:27 < irgeek> It's the first time you've connected. It will cache it for you. 20:27 < irgeek> You'll get the same message when you first connect to your Linode later. 20:28 < irgeek> The [linode107@dallas67 lish] lines are what you should see. 20:28 < irgeek> configs will show you your three profiles 20:28 < irgeek> boot 3 boots the recovery profile (It should be third in the list. 20:29 < saurabh> it says job started 20:30 < irgeek> You'll see it boot after a few seconds. 20:30 < saurabh> Console initialized on /dev/tty0 20:30 < saurabh> console [tty0] enabled 20:30 < saurabh> console [mc-1] enabled 20:30 < saurabh> ubda: unknown partition table 20:30 < saurabh> ubdb: unknown partition table 20:30 < saurabh> ubdc: unknown partition table 20:31 < saurabh> ubdd: unknown partition table 20:31 < saurabh> ubde: unknown partition table 20:31 < irgeek> That's all you got? 20:32 < irgeek> That looks like your disks were never formatted or something. 20:32 < caker> that's normal 20:33 < irgeek> Oh. I've never seen that before. 20:33 < caker> we're using the entire device as a "partition" -- there is no partition table 20:33 < saurabh> ok.. 20:33 < irgeek> Oh. That makes sense. I guess I never noticed it before. 20:33 < irgeek> saurabh: Did you get a prompt? 20:33 < saurabh> this line will also change in your doc for UML -> mount /dev/xvdc && mount /dev/xvde 20:34 < saurabh> instead of xvdc -ubdc 20:34 < irgeek> Exactly. 20:34 < saurabh> and xvde - ubde 20:34 < irgeek> Yup/ 20:35 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@91.148.112.153] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36 < irgeek> Those are the devices you mapped to Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Disk Image and Var in the recovery profile. 20:36 < saurabh> i was a little concern to follow this command - but I did it anyway :) -> rm -Rf * 20:36 < irgeek> Did you do the cd first? 20:36 < saurabh> yes :0 20:37 < saurabh> cd to var 20:37 < irgeek> To /mnt/ubdc/var you mean? 20:37 < saurabh> right 20:37 < irgeek> Good. 20:37 < saurabh> now setting Setup Hostname & FQDN 20:38 < saurabh> I don't have a host name yet, I guess i will just use my name 20:38 < irgeek> You can change it later. And you don't need to be in the recovery profile to do that. 20:38 < saurabh> if the rm command takes full path, may be you can change your doc to specify full path in the "rm" command 20:39 < irgeek> That's a good ides. 20:39 < saurabh> ok.. so you suggest that I exist from recover profile and boot again in default profile? 20:39 < irgeek> Yeah. We're done in recovery. 20:39 < saurabh> ok.. 20:39 < saurabh> so what's the reboot command 20:40 < irgeek> You only need recovery to copy the /var files. 20:40 < irgeek> shutdown -h now will get you back to a Lish prompt. 20:40 < caker> irgeek: you said you were working on some howtos (which is great, thanks) -- part of which ivolved moving dirs into their own disks, right? 20:40 < saurabh> ok.. 20:41 < irgeek> Then boot 1 will boot the default profile 20:41 < caker> irgeek: you know that could be accomplished using just init=/bin/bash ... But exposing people to Finnix is cool too 20:41 < JDLSpeedy> caker: does Finnix work in Xen yet? 20:41 < caker> JDLSpeedy: yes 20:41 < JDLSpeedy> nice 20:41 < irgeek> caker: Yeah, I'm walking saurabh through my notes to see where I need to clarify things. 20:42 < irgeek> And yeah, you could use init=/bin/bash, but Finnix is there and this way people know that. 20:42 < irgeek> Finnix can be very handy when things go boom. 20:43 < saurabh> before you gave me shutdown -h command, I did a "man reboot".. now its stuck at the last line, even control c does not bring me back to the command promot 20:43 < saurabh> "Manual page reboot(8) line 51/76 (END)" 20:43 * HoopyCat cranks DMB and dban 20:43 < irgeek> type q 20:43 < saurabh> thanks 20:44 < saurabh> shutdown -h does not work 20:44 < saurabh> it just gives me help for shutdown 20:44 < irgeek> Try halt 20:44 < JDLSpeedy> 'shutdown -h now' 20:44 < BP{k}> that is because it misses a time argument. ^^ 20:44 < HoopyCat> why the hell do people leave computers sitting on the curb on garbage day WITHOUT removing or dbaning the drives... 20:45 < irgeek> HoopyCat: They like to get pwned? 20:45 < saurabh> there is no lower case h option 20:45 < JDLSpeedy> HoopyCat: found personal information? 20:45 < BP{k}> HoopyCat: "because people are stupid" || "because they are clueless" 20:45 < saurabh> you want me to try Upper case H 20:45 < saurabh> -H: halt action is to just halt. 20:45 < irgeek> saurabh: Type halt and hit enter 20:46 < HoopyCat> didn't look around that much, just mounted it and looked in Documents and Settings and Program Files. giving it a dban now, just in case it's got pirated music or something 20:46 < saurabh> ok..that works 20:46 -!- Talman [~ender@208.114.116.67] has joined #linode 20:46 < HoopyCat> i can find no reason why this computer was discarded, which is a fancy way of saying "SCORE!" 20:46 < irgeek> I'll have to check finnix to see if it's got a strange shutdown variant 20:46 < Talman> Caker and Co awake? 20:46 < JDLSpeedy> HoopyCat: they think its broken 20:46 -!- dillytai1t [~dillytain@CPE-76-92-146-38.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46 * caker doesn't sleep .. he waits 20:47 < Talman> I see. I'm on a cruise ship in the middle of Alaska. If I sign up for a linode, is it going to raise flags? :) 20:47 < caker> Talman: heh ... who knows 20:47 < Talman> k. 20:47 < caker> Talman: we'll take care of ya 20:47 < tasaro> Talman: don't you have a linode? 20:47 < Talman> I did, it expired. 20:47 < irgeek> Well that's a question I've not seen before. o_O 20:48 < JDLSpeedy> how does one linode expire? 20:48 < tasaro> ok.. well when this one expires you'll still have an "account" 20:48 < HoopyCat> Talman: check with the bridge to find out what the "if this ship is rockin', don't come a knockin'" flag is, 'cuz that's the one that'll go up if you sign up for a linode 20:48 < saurabh> irgeek ->so you need a step to "halt -> then boot 1 ->then login as root" 20:48 < HoopyCat> Talman: how's things? ltns :-) 20:48 < irgeek> JDLSpeedy: You don't pay the bill... 20:48 -!- Ender [~ender@208.114.116.67] has joined #linode 20:48 -!- Talman is now known as Guest216 20:48 -!- Ender is now known as Talman 20:48 < JDLSpeedy> irgeek: ah 20:49 * linbot dispenses Pork Roll 20:49 < JDLSpeedy> !rr 20:49 < linbot> JDLSpeedy: *click* 20:49 < HoopyCat> Talman: check with the bridge to find out what the "if this ship is rockin', don't come a knockin'" flag is, 'cuz that's the one that'll go up if you sign up for a linode \nTalman: how's things? ltns :-) 20:49 < Talman> RIght then! 20:49 < irgeek> saurabh: Yeah, I changed my copy to be halt. It's less confusing. 20:49 < Talman> Someone decided that the big box marked Cisco should be unplugged! 20:50 < Talman> lol, ok. 20:50 < mikegrb> lolz 20:50 < irgeek> Yes! Let's unplug all the boxes marked Cisco! 20:50 -!- dillytaint [~dillytain@CPE-76-92-146-38.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 20:50 < Talman> !avail 20:50 < linbot> Talman: Linode360 - 1, Linode540 - 24, Linode720 - 16, Linode1080 - 12, Linode1440 - 8, Linode2880 - 4 20:50 < irgeek> That stuff is really high in cholesterol. 20:50 < HoopyCat> Talman: 1) the 2880's are new, and 2) fremont is chock full of availability 20:50 < caker> 3) new Linode manager http://tinyurl.com/62rs8y 20:50 < saurabh> irgeek- after halt and boot 1 - you will also have to add "mount again" 20:51 < irgeek> Unless you want a 360.. 20:51 < HoopyCat> yes, new linode manager 20:51 < irgeek> !avail-all 20:51 < Talman> I was on dallas, and am getting 2 linodes this time. 20:51 < Talman> Naw, I want 540s. 20:51 < linbot> Fremont360 - 1, Fremont540 - 24, Fremont720 - 15, Fremont1080 - 12, Fremont1440 - 8, Fremont2880 - 4 , Dallas360 - 0, Dallas540 - 0, Dallas720 - 0, Dallas1080 - 0, Dallas1440 - 0, Dallas2880 - 0 , Atlanta360 - 0, Atlanta540 - 0, Atlanta720 - 1, Atlanta1080 - 0, Atlanta1440 - 0, Atlanta2880 - 0 20:51 < Talman> Awesome. 20:51 < irgeek> saurabh: No, that's why you edited the fstab file 20:51 < HoopyCat> that 360 is UML but it's still high in fiber and low in fat 20:51 < path-> hey talman, boat sick yet? 20:51 < HoopyCat> (bet you didn't know that) 20:51 * Talman is back, and I dumped 700 bucks in the account, so I don't think its going to "sorry, forgot to move money" again anytime soon. 20:52 < irgeek> Bet I could have figured it out! https://www.linode.com/avail.cfm?XenOnly=1 20:52 < Talman> Negative, I don't get boat sick. 20:52 < Talman> I'm rather displeased about the Norowalk Virus, though. 20:52 < saurabh> irgeek - cd /mnt/xvdc/etc does not work.. with ubdc - so i think the step to mount is missinf 20:52 -!- rofi [~rofi@21.2.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #linode 20:52 < Talman> Someone had "an accident" on my deck. They sealed the entire section and went through it with moon suits. 20:53 < Talman> ... there are promotion codes? :) 20:53 < path-> i didn't mean that type of boat sick :) 20:53 < irgeek> saurabh: Where are you in the notes? 20:53 < saurabh> Setup Hostname & FQDN cd /mnt/ubdc/etc 20:53 < Talman> Sweet, caker, on the new manager. 20:54 < irgeek> Your command would be cd /mnt/ubdc/etc 20:54 < path-> so do retired folk enjoy learning about computers? 20:54 < saurabh> when I cd to /mnt and do ls -l I don'tsee anything 20:54 < irgeek> But that was /before/ the boot out of the recovery profile 20:55 < irgeek> The device is mounted differently under a non-finnix profile. 20:56 -!- Guest216 [~ender@208.114.116.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:56 < irgeek> It would just be /etc/ now 20:56 < saurabh> ok 20:56 < irgeek> Did you skip that step? 20:56 < Talman> Good God, Satellite sucks. 20:56 < irgeek> Talman: Yes it does. 20:56 < saurabh> no.. i did not skip.. you suggested above that I can get out of recovery profile and boot normal "You only need recovery to copy the /var files" 20:56 < JDLSpeedy> Talman: tell me about it, its raining, so no tv 20:56 < HoopyCat> Talman: mtnsat! oh, how i miss the ferry to toronto. 20:56 < Talman> :( 20:57 < Talman> Yep! The internet manager is my bunkmate. 20:57 < Talman> Hey, Caker, can you check my account and see if the old linode is dead? 20:57 < irgeek> saurabh: Need is the operative word there. There are other things to do while you're there. 20:57 < irgeek> Fixing fstab was important too. 20:57 < JDLSpeedy> Talman: and i don't intend to go with my local cable provider 20:57 < irgeek> You need to add those two lines and reboot. 20:58 < tasaro> Talman: username? 20:58 < Talman> nacorbier 20:58 < Talman> ty tasaro. 20:59 * Talman is getting a 540 regardless, I'm just not sure if the old one is delorted yet. 20:59 < irgeek> Talman: If it's not gone, you can upgrade the old one. 20:59 < tasaro> account was cancelled 4 days ago. . . 21:00 < Talman> lol! 21:00 < mikegrb> lolz 21:01 < Talman> Makes sense, I've been off the map for the past week. 21:01 < saurabh> irgeek - in this step is the space between IP & name is a "space" or "tab" 21:01 < saurabh> Edit hosts "66.160.141.251 mt-antero.irgeek.com mt-antero" 21:01 < irgeek> Spaces or tabs. It doesn't matter. 21:01 < irgeek> I use spaces. 21:01 < saurabh> ok 21:02 < saurabh> "Edit: command not found" 21:02 < irgeek> You're just adding that line. 21:02 < saurabh> I guess i need to use vi? 21:02 < irgeek> Yeah. 21:02 < saurabh> ok 21:02 < irgeek> These are notes. I only put in some commands. I'll flesh it out when I do the final version. 21:02 < saurabh> ok 21:03 < irgeek> After you add those two lines to fstab you'll nee to reboot. 21:03 < irgeek> And you're adding the line to hosts as well. 21:04 < irgeek> Not replacing the whole file. 21:06 < irgeek> And don't forget the xv -> ub change because you're on UML. 21:08 < irgeek> path-: I just saw your question. My mother teaches classes at the Senior Center on how to use computer. Mostly they want to know how to email their grandchildren. 21:08 < saurabh> ok.. irgreek - rebooted 21:08 < irgeek> type "df -h" 21:08 < saurabh> all [OK] 21:08 < irgeek> Oh, log in first. 21:08 < irgeek> :) 21:09 < saurabh> dev/ubda 3.0G 266M 2.8G 9% / 21:09 < saurabh> varrun 174M 36K 174M 1% /var/run 21:09 < saurabh> varlock 174M 0 174M 0% /var/lock 21:09 < saurabh> devshm 174M 0 174M 0% /dev/shm 21:09 < saurabh> dev/ubdc 1008M 33M 966M 4% /home 21:09 < saurabh> dev/ubdd 5.7G 197M 5.5G 4% /var 21:10 < irgeek> Excellent. Your fstab edits worked. :) 21:10 < Talman> Yes, yes they do @ irgeek. 21:11 < irgeek> saurabh: Do the timezone them let me know hoe the SSH key update goes. 21:11 -!- rofi [~rofi@21.2.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:11 < irgeek> That's the trickiest part. 21:11 < Talman> Oh God. 21:11 < Talman> Is there a way to speedily edit the linoe DNS manager, so I remove all those old IPs? 21:12 < saurabh> irgeek - may be we need a step to setup putty to display all lines 21:12 < irgeek> Talman: I don't believe so. That's my I use CNAMEs wherever I can 21:12 < saurabh> in timezone, when I hit 47 for united states, my first 4 options are not visible 21:12 < Talman> Yeah... 21:12 < saurabh> it shows from 5 onwards 21:12 < irgeek> Doesn't maximizing the window do that? 21:13 < irgeek> Show all the lines I mean... 21:13 < irgeek> And doesn't putty scroll? 21:13 < saurabh> no..it shows Job Inserted .. and then [linodexxxx@host72 lish] .. on the top 21:13 < irgeek> Because if putty doesn't scroll, there's not much I can do to fix that... 21:14 < saurabh> the 10-20 lines on top are static 21:14 < HoopyCat> irgeek: screen makes scrolling not work 21:14 < irgeek> Putty doesn't scroll in screen. 21:14 < HoopyCat> lish is screen, so bugger 21:14 < path-> irgeek, i was just being sarcastic because talman was debating on teaching on a cruise 21:14 < irgeek> :x 21:14 < irgeek> Ah. 21:14 < caker> doesnt control-a esc make page up/down work in screen? 21:14 < irgeek> caker: yes. 21:15 < caker> word. 21:15 < HoopyCat> caker: i will have your children 21:15 < irgeek> But boo on putty for not scrolling in a screen session. 21:15 -!- ondrej [~ondra@ip4-83-240-41-73.cust.nbox.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15 < HoopyCat> irgeek: it seems to be something with regards screen's overwritiness 21:16 < saurabh> anyway - does anyone know which option to choose if I want caker's time zone? 21:16 < saurabh> Eastern Day Light 21:16 < irgeek> Yes 21:16 < saurabh> its 1, 2, 3, or 4 21:16 < irgeek> Hang on... 21:16 < irgeek> 1 21:18 < irgeek> tzselect really needs to detect screen size and not put too much info in a window. 21:18 -!- cruxeter1us [~cruxetern@dsl093-172-232.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #linode 21:18 < saurabh> " You can make this change permanent for yourself by appending the line 21:18 < saurabh> to the file '.profile' in your home directory; then log out and log in again 21:19 < saurabh> should you add this to instructions? 21:19 < saurabh> or is it not needed? 21:19 < irgeek> Doing that as root should make it permanent for everyone... 21:19 < saurabh> ok 21:19 < irgeek> But doesn't.... 21:19 < irgeek> Thanks. I'll fix the notes. 21:19 -!- cruxeternus [~cruxetern@dsl093-172-232.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:20 -!- cruxeter1us is now known as cruxeternus 21:21 < cruxeternus> Guys, it's been about 3 hours since I could access linode.com. It's almost as if my packets are being dropped by linode.com. You can see a tracepath here -> http://pastie.caboo.se/202887 21:21 < cruxeternus> I can ping certain other Linodes at Dallas. But not access the www.linode.com site or the Linode Manager. 21:21 < caker> !dns dsl093-172-232.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net 21:21 < HoopyCat> hmmm 21:21 < caker> stupid invalid rdns ... 21:21 < cruxeternus> hehe 21:22 < cruxeternus> it's 66.93.172.232 21:22 < caker> cruxeternus: what's your IP? 21:22 < caker> k 21:22 < linbot> caker: Host not found. 21:22 < caker> drops out in savis 21:22 < saurabh> irgreek -> so do I need to add that in the .profile? the time zone command> 21:22 < cruxeternus> You won't be able to ping it though.. because I drop incoming ICMP.. you should be able to ping my gateway, 66.93.172.1, if you need to check route back. 21:22 < caker> cruxeternus: http://p.linode.com/817 21:23 < cruxeternus> haha I can't access :) 21:23 < irgeek> saurabh: Ok. Instead of tzselect, run this: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata 21:23 < saurabh> ok.. currently running "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" 21:23 < caker> mtr to 66.93.172.1 goes all the way through -- about 7 hops farther, so I doubt you're able to insert drop rules that far upstream 21:23 < HoopyCat> 66.93.172.1 is pingable from my atlanta node, but not my dallas node 21:23 < cruxeternus> caker: hehe, probably not 21:24 < irgeek> saurabh: OK. You can come back to it. 21:24 < HoopyCat> BGP looks good 21:24 * irgeek updates notes 21:24 < cruxeternus> Can you paste to http://pastie.caboo.se or another site? 21:24 < cruxeternus> So I know what to tell Speakeasy? 21:25 < cruxeternus> What's odd.. is I can ping mwalling and irgeek at Dallas. 21:25 < cruxeternus> it's specific to linode.com, afaict 21:25 < caker> cruxeternus: http://pastie.caboo.se/202898 21:25 < saurabh> irgreek - is this a command "ssh-vulnkey; Note fingerprints" 21:25 < cruxeternus> caker: Thanks. 21:25 < HoopyCat> cruxeternus: can you hit www.hoopycat.com ? 21:25 < irgeek> We are on different IP subnets I thing. 21:25 < saurabh> or are you sugesting to ssh-vulnkey and then "note fingerprints" 21:25 < irgeek> ssh-vulnkey is the command 21:25 < irgeek> Yes 21:25 < saurabh> ok. thats what I guesesd 21:26 < cruxeternus> HoopyCat: Negative on your site... ping or http :/ 21:26 < irgeek> They should all say not blacklisted or unknown 21:26 < cruxeternus> caker: looks like there's confusion on which route to take 21:26 < cruxeternus> going to you, I go through above.net 21:27 < HoopyCat> cruxeternus: try again? 21:27 < HoopyCat> fired up a tcpdump to see which end 21:27 < irgeek> saurabh: In the next section, the \ means the next line is a continuation of the previous one. 21:27 < HoopyCat> 21:27:17.771157 IP 66.93.172.232 > 67.18.176.246: icmp 64: echo request seq 1 21:27 < HoopyCat> 21:27:17.771210 IP 67.18.176.246 > 66.93.172.232: icmp 64: echo reply seq 1 21:27 < cruxeternus> Yeah, that's me. 21:27 < cruxeternus> But I'm not getting the replies. 21:27 < HoopyCat> cruxeternus: looks like it's the path from here to you 21:28 < cruxeternus> So basically, it's trying to send it through a different route. 21:28 < irgeek> Yeah. 21:28 < HoopyCat> shouldn't matter, routing is inherently asymmetrical 21:28 < irgeek> That's normal. 21:28 < cruxeternus> Hrmm... my firewall might not like it though. 21:28 < irgeek> But it's borked somewhere. 21:28 < cruxeternus> lemme see if the replies are hitting my firewall and getting dropped there 21:28 < irgeek> Your firewall wouldn't know. 21:28 < HoopyCat> cruxeternus: ooh, traceroute just changed, try again... 21:29 < HoopyCat> cruxeternus: i can ping your .1 21:29 < Talman> Caker, can you kill all the DNS entries in the DNS manager for my account? :) 21:29 < cruxeternus> Yeah, your website just loaded too. 21:29 < caker> Talman: yes, but you can too 21:29 * cruxeternus eyes the Internet suspiciously. 21:29 < caker> Talman: that's why there are checkboxes and the big Delete button :) 21:30 < Talman> ok, the pages are only sorta loading. :) 21:30 < caker> Talman: what's wrong? 21:30 < saurabh> irgeek - > the last "\" in this line - is it just to join two liner command or it is needed ? adduser --home /home/admin/jcsincla --shell /bin/bash --gecos \ 21:30 < Talman> I'm on satellite internet. 21:30 < irgeek> It's to join the lines. 21:30 < caker> heh 21:30 < Talman> Worst ship on the freaking boat. 21:30 -!- mendel [mean@76-10-159-31.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #linode 21:30 < Talman> fleet 21:30 < saurabh> ok 21:33 < cruxeternus> Oh, well lookie ther.e 21:33 < cruxeternus> Now I can ping everything, and everything works. 21:34 < cruxeternus> I do not like Heisenbugs :( 21:34 < HoopyCat> cruxeternus: lause cable 21:34 < cruxeternus> Not here, anyway. :) 21:34 < cruxeternus> I didn't change anything. 21:34 < cruxeternus> Other than the fact that I started digging into the packet logs :/ 21:34 < HoopyCat> cruxeternus: if i had to guess, i'd say savvis<->qwest came unplugged 21:35 < cruxeternus> Ah, alright. 21:36 < cruxeternus> Well, thanks for helping me troubleshoot it. :) 21:36 -!- Talman [~ender@208.114.116.67] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36 -!- Talman [~ender@208.114.116.67] has joined #linode 21:36 < HoopyCat> cruxeternus: np! glad the border gateway protocol could screw you in the patooter. 21:36 < Talman> Oh, we're moving! You can tell by the loss of train. 21:36 < saurabh> irgeek - done 21:37 < HoopyCat> Talman: IP over Aldis Lamp hasn't made standards track yet :-/ 21:37 < irgeek> Thanks for working through that. You gave me some good pointers to fix up. 21:37 < saurabh> i guess now I need to install Apache, Mysql & php.. I guess i will follow these steps - http://www.jeffbeeman.com/node/23 21:37 < Talman> I'm gonna get a Moto Q, complete coverage over Alaska. 21:38 < Talman> At 3G, even. 21:38 < saurabh> you are saying thanks - If I did not have those pointers, I would have never done that 21:38 < saurabh> if you do use Amazon 21:38 < saurabh> if you do use Amazon's S3, contact me from bucket explorer's contact us - and I will send you a key for helping me out 21:39 < saurabh> its a UI to manage data at Amazon S3 21:39 < saurabh> and *I think* its the best UI out there :) 21:39 < saurabh> thanks again for your time. 21:39 < irgeek> Cool, thanks. I'm planning to add backing up to S3 to the HowTo so I might be contacting you soon for that. 21:40 < Talman> oooh, yeah, s3 backup is useful. 21:41 < mwalling> Talman: !! 21:42 < irgeek> People rarely offer compensation for help in IRC, but saurabh is the second person to offer it to me today. I find that amusing because tomorrow is my birthday. :) 21:44 < saurabh> its not compensation.. an activation key for a 30$ software can't be compensation.. 21:44 < mwalling> Talman: oh yeah, hows that computer class going :P 21:44 < Talman> mwallling: How did you survive on this spacetube crap? Harris Sat. 21:46 < mwalling> i didnt 21:46 < mwalling> remember how much i bitched and moaned? 21:46 < Talman> Indeed. 21:46 < Talman> I'm getting a cell pone. 21:46 < Talman> One that does 3G, at least. 21:48 < Talman> ffs 21:48 < Talman> no outlets in the crew rec area. 21:48 < Talman> You have to be kidding me. Noneo f them work. 21:48 * Talman saves minutes as well, why not. 21:49 < mwalling> power? 21:49 < BP{k}> mwalling: past tense? ;) 21:49 < mwalling> BP{k}: yeah, i've got Real Interbutts (tm) 21:51 < path-> cell phone in the ocean? 21:54 < saurabh> when I run this command -> to install apache -> I get an erorr -> "E: Couldn't find package libexpatl" 21:54 < saurabh> "apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils libexpat1 ssl-cert" 21:55 < saurabh> I got the command from here -> http://www.jeffbeeman.com/node/23 21:56 < saurabh> nevermind 21:56 < mendel> the error you pasted said "libexpatl". The example you... 21:56 < mendel> Heh. 21:56 < saurabh> it works -> 1 instead of l 21:56 -!- Talman [~ender@208.114.116.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56 < saurabh> one instead of "L" 21:57 < mendel> yeah 21:59 < saurabh> E: Couldn't find package php5-ps 22:02 < Clorith> Does anyone know of a way to find out what IP ranges are owned by someone ? 22:03 < irgeek> Clorith: There isn't a 100% sure fire way unless they are getting their IP space directly from ARIN. 22:03 < Clorith> I don't know, heard of sh3lls.net ? 22:04 < caker> l1n0d3.com 22:04 < Clorith> lol 22:04 < mikegrb> lolz 22:04 < mendel> Even then that's not reliable, I can think of a company who appears to get their space directly from ARIN, but isn't using those allocations at all and *is* using ones that aren't directly allocated 22:05 < HoopyCat> if they have their own AS, it's a simple BGP table query... but most folks don't 22:07 < irgeek> saurabh: The guide you're following is for an older version of Ubuntu, but I just checked a couple of places and I can't find that package anywhere. 22:07 < saurabh> thanks irgeek 22:08 < saurabh> i will skip that package 22:08 < irgeek> The package after it is php5-pspell so I'm wondering if it's a typo of that. 22:09 < saurabh> ps may be for postscript 22:09 < linbot> New news from forums: High availability in Sales Questions and Answers 22:10 < mwalling> http://you.dontlike.us/~mwalling/skiddiesmap/ 22:10 < mwalling> what happens when i want to play with python and have too much time on my hands 22:11 < HoopyCat> hahahaha 22:11 -!- saurabh [~saurabh@c-76-124-82-183.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: saurabh] 22:11 < HoopyCat> mwalling <3 22:11 < mwalling> thats every akill in #linode except for when tjfontaine killed himself and Dave 22:11 < mwalling> HoopyCat: <3 22:11 * mwalling -> "bed" 22:12 < Clorith> wow, sh3lls really had horrible support >_> 22:21 < irgeek> I'm targeting some missiles on those coordinates now... 22:23 < caker> mwalling: nice 22:31 < Palintheus> yesterday when I decided to get a linode 360 there were some in Dallas available, now there aren't any...so my question is, can nodes be moved after they are setup? 22:31 < Peng> Palintheus: Yes. 22:31 < Palintheus> easily? 22:31 < Peng> Palintheus: But it will be down while it's moved, and you'll get new IPs. 22:31 < Palintheus> ah, cool 22:32 < Peng> Palintheus: All you have to do is write a support ticket. 22:32 < Palintheus> awesome, thanks Peng 22:32 < straterra> And pay me $30 per move 22:32 < straterra> >:D 22:32 < Palintheus> ;) 22:32 < Peng> Heh. 22:32 < straterra> I will...uhm..oversee the transfer 22:32 < straterra> And like..yeah. Just send the money to my Nigerian bank account 22:33 < Peng> Palintheus: When you create your Linode, you should make the disk image as small as possible, so it can be transferred more quickly. You can make it larger after the move. 22:33 * Palintheus nods 22:34 < Peng> Woah, no 360s anywhere. 22:35 < irgeek> Palintheus: Sorry I jumped on the last 360 in Dallas this morning. :p 22:35 < Palintheus> -_- 22:35 < Palintheus> j/k 22:35 < Palintheus> ;) 22:35 < HoopyCat> i'll overlook your migration for only $20 22:36 < HoopyCat> err, oversee 22:36 < irgeek> I'll overlook it for free. :) 22:36 < straterra> HoopyCat's service is like...the exchange of mail servers 22:36 < straterra> Pay too much for too little :) 22:37 < HoopyCat> that's what my wife says 22:37 < straterra> She calls you exchange? That..sucks 22:51 -!- exor|zzz is now known as exor674 23:01 < irgeek> Someone, anyone, please tell me this is a joke: http://kob.com/article/stories/S451152.shtml?cat=517 23:04 < HoopyCat> irgeek: No. 23:05 < irgeek> Can I sue the people suing Santa Fe because I'm allergic to stupid? 23:10 < Toba> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKxqk2eH4Ns 23:10 * Toba did science today 23:23 -!- jacob [~jacobmp@208.78.204.26] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Sat May 24 23:59:00 2008