--- Day changed --- Log opened Tue Dec 23 23:59:02 2008 23:59 -!- JoeK [~admin@host-12-183-76-37.shenhgts.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:01 -!- TKN [~45822abf@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 00:04 -!- rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #linode 00:05 -!- ergo [~Marc@75.139.174.199] has joined #linode 00:05 -!- scientes [~scientes@75-165-76-78.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #linode 00:06 -!- Kassah-lappy [~kassah@66-232-76-204.ctcweb.net] has joined #linode 00:12 < Seannachie> Would someone mind helping me set up DNS (in Virtualmin) in PM? 00:13 < Seannachie> Thanks in advance 00:13 < Seannachie> Oh wait, I can just use the Linode DNS manager 00:13 < Seannachie> nvm 00:18 -!- TKN [~45822abf@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18 -!- FoxTrot3000 [FoxTrot@dialup-4.225.97.36.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has joined #linode 00:20 -!- rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:22 -!- FoxTrot [FoxTrot@dialup-4.225.96.155.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:23 < JDLSpeedy> wow, nice website update guys 00:26 * Seannachie nods 00:26 < Seannachie> Very smexy 00:30 -!- cooldude [~cooldude@xtreme-57-41.dyn.aci.on.ca] has joined #linode 00:30 * irgeek realized today that it's cheaper to buy new furniture than to haul it all across the country 00:30 < tjfontaine> yay foad uhaul 00:31 < mikegrb> but the ikea is an hour away :/ 00:32 < JDLSpeedy> ikea? 00:32 < JDLSpeedy> oo, sorry 00:32 < JDLSpeedy> lol 00:32 < mikegrb> lolz 00:32 < linbot> lolz 00:34 -!- mode/#linode [-q *!*@ns.theshore.net] by FloodServ 00:34 -!- mode/#linode [-q *!*@feh.colobox.com] by FloodServ 00:35 < linbot> New news from wiki: Slashdot My Linode 00:37 -!- shakr [~shakr@whirl.gellin.dyndns.org] has joined #linode 00:43 -!- Toba [~eastein@gateway.66fruit.com] has quit [Quit: what has science done?] 00:46 -!- cooldude [~cooldude@xtreme-57-41.dyn.aci.on.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:48 < path-> wouldn't a road trip be tons of fun though? 00:51 < irgeek> mikegrb: Depends on your perspective. Ikea is 6 hours from Denver. 00:51 < mikegrb> oh 00:51 < mikegrb> in that case, head to the closest lake 00:51 -!- mode/#linode [-v linbot] by mikegrb 00:53 < path-> lol 00:53 < fo0bar> lolz 00:53 < mikegrb> lolz 00:53 < linbot> lolz 00:53 < path-> so i was just at the grocery store and they had LOL eggs 00:53 < mikegrb> lolz 00:53 < mikegrb> nice 00:53 * SelfishMan slaps path- 00:53 < mikegrb> are they mmmmmm? 00:53 < path-> i was gonna take a pic, but i'm sure all my facebook friends would think i was weird 00:53 < path-> Land O Lakes 00:53 < mikegrb> ahhh 00:54 < SelfishMan> What is the hardware that the UML nodes run on? 00:54 < path-> but the bar code on the shelf said LOL 00:54 < mikegrb> lolz 00:54 < SelfishMan> Dual quad cores? 00:55 < path-> i think i really like the website update 00:55 < path-> the colors seem to flow better and i like the third tab 00:56 < mikegrb> that was the goal 00:56 < path-> win! 00:57 < FoxTrot3000> owell i think i am goign to get off here, agen thank you everyone for your help tonight :) 00:57 < path-> gonna break the piggy bank? 00:57 -!- FoxTrot3000 [FoxTrot@dialup-4.225.97.36.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has quit [] 00:58 < path-> i guess it's been awhile since you had to break piggy banks to get the money out 01:08 -!- N1JER [~N1JER@adsl-99-170-154-170.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode 01:13 -!- railsninja [~railsninj@58.170.15.20] has joined #linode 01:17 -!- metaperl_ [~metaperl@cpe-75-187-102-204.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 01:22 < straterra> Wow.. 01:23 < straterra> My Linode has 7000 processes :/ 01:23 < SelfishMan> eh? 01:23 < straterra> 1000 15270 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/1 Z+ 00:57 0:00 [irssi] 01:23 < straterra> LOTS of those 01:23 < straterra> lots and lots 01:24 < exor674> rampaging script 01:24 < exor674> or are they all real!irssis? 01:24 -!- metaperl [~metaperl@cpe-75-187-102-204.insight.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:24 -!- metaperl_ is now known as metaperl 01:24 < straterra> hmm? 01:24 < straterra> 1572 of those :P 01:24 < exor674> e.g. has irssi decided to fork all night, or do you keep forking irssi 01:24 < straterra> I don't fork it :/ 01:24 < straterra> could a script be doing it? 01:24 < straterra> like..an irssi plugin 01:25 < straterra> I recently installed twirssi 01:25 < exor674> what scripts/plugins are you using? 01:25 < path-> sounds reasonable 01:25 < straterra> and..thats it 01:25 < exor674> hrrm... that might be it 01:25 < exor674> cause I just looked and I have 50-billion of those too 01:25 -!- dvgrhl [~dvgrhl@c-76-22-109-182.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:25 < straterra> And you use twirssi? 01:25 < exor674> yeah 01:25 < path-> twitter fail 01:25 < path-> heh 01:25 -!- dvgrhl [~dvgrhl@c-76-22-109-182.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 01:26 < straterra> What distro? 01:26 < straterra> exor674: I only noticed because nagios keeps paging me about it 01:26 < exor674> that shouldn't make a difference :P 01:26 < exor674> line 436: my $pid = fork(); 01:27 < exor674> there be the problem 01:27 < exor674> and no sigchild handler 01:28 < straterra> hmm 01:28 < straterra> Someone should tell the dev, hmm? 01:28 < straterra> :) 01:30 < exor674> if you don't wanna restart to rid of them all: /script exec for ($i = 0; $i < 1580; $i++) { wait; } 01:31 < exor674> then of course unload the script 01:31 < straterra> Err, what does that go? 01:31 < straterra> do^ 01:32 < straterra> What needs to be fixed in the script? 01:32 < exor674> "Behaves like the wait(2) system call on your system: it waits for a child process to terminate and returns the pid of the deceased process, or "-1" if there are no child processes." 01:32 < straterra> I mean..I can't kill all of those..or something? 01:33 < exor674> you can't kill Zombies 01:33 < straterra> LIES..just aim for the head :P 01:33 < exor674> they're not running -- a zombie is just a stub in the Process table 01:33 < path-> is it just missing a "setsid" call? 01:33 * straterra is in favor of fixing twirssi 01:33 < BP{k}> exor674: perhaps email the author? 01:33 * straterra will reboot and move to pvgrub at the same time 01:34 < straterra> So..what 'harm' is caused by letting it just create more and more zombies? 01:34 < path-> reboot to fix twirssi!!! 01:34 < path-> better reboot three times, just to make sure 01:34 < exor674> straterra: you'll run out of PIDs 01:34 < straterra> errr 01:34 < exor674> straterra: you don't need to reboot your COMPUTER 01:35 < straterra> I was going to reboot my linode 01:35 < exor674> straterra: if you exit irssi they should all go away... or /exec that snippet I gave you 01:35 < path-> i was messing with a script the other day that involves daemonizing 01:35 < exor674> your linode is a computer ;P 01:35 < straterra> ok..that script.. 01:35 < straterra> do I change that number for how many its actually made? 01:35 < exor674> yeah 01:35 < BP{k}> exor674: you really should email the dev of twirrsi 01:36 < exor674> and to fix twirssi, adding "Irssi::pidwait_add($pid);" below line 439 seems to work... and I'll do that *too* 01:36 < exor674> trying to clean up straterra's zombies first P 01:36 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@195.252.105.151] has joined #linode 01:36 -!- ergo [~Marc@75.139.174.199] has left #linode [G'bye] 01:37 < straterra> Your line worked :P 01:37 < straterra> So..unload twirssi..fix it..reload it 01:37 < exor674> yeah 01:38 < exor674> the statement has to go inside the IF part of the if/elseif 01:38 < exor674> and I've notified the author 01:38 < BP{k}> exor674: merci :) 01:38 < straterra> ty 01:38 < straterra> ls 01:38 < straterra> err 01:39 < straterra> So..that line.. 01:40 < straterra> Goes above this line? $nicks{ $t->{in_reply_to_screen_name} } = time; 01:40 < straterra> Within the if block? 01:40 < exor674> should be around 440... " Irssi::timeout_add_once( 5000, 'monitor_child', [$filename] ); 01:40 < straterra> 440 for me is the line I just pasted 01:40 < exor674> hrm 01:40 < exor674> 1.5.1? 01:41 < straterra> 1.3 01:41 < straterra> lol 01:41 < mikegrb> lolz 01:41 < fo0bar> lolz 01:41 < linbot> lolz 01:41 < exor674> well 1.5.1 is still bugged haha 01:41 < BP{k}> exor674: that script exec line you posted. 01:41 < BP{k}> the 1580 is the number of defunct/zombies? 01:41 < exor674> yeah 01:41 < BP{k}> roger. 01:42 < exor674> I don't think irssi forks normally either :P 01:42 < straterra> Ok, I see the line you are talking about 01:42 < BP{k}> does twirri need to be running when executing that script or can I unload it frist, and then run it? 01:43 < exor674> unload it first 01:43 < exor674> it'll keep eating brains of processes otherwise :P 01:43 < straterra> Should go in the if block, before the elseif and after the Irssi::timeout_add_once..blabla 01:43 < exor674> yeah 01:43 < BP{k}> straterra: just press "o" in vim ;) 01:45 * BP{k} buys exor674 a beer. 01:46 < straterra> one from me too 01:49 < straterra> Alrighty 01:49 < straterra> My cell phone thanks you, exor674 01:53 < jtaji> impressive, the linode manager is completely usable in links 01:54 < exor674> I wonder what usability is like on a iPhone screen 01:54 < jtaji> except for graphs of course 01:54 -!- mikeage [~mmiller@mikeage.net] has left #linode [Leaving.] 01:55 < exor674> aw, I thought linode wou;d be awesome enough to use black magic 01:55 < exor674> and make links show you graphs 01:56 -!- Taim [~taim@27.pyvl4.xdsl.nauticom.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:58 -!- Kassah-lappy [~kassah@66-232-76-204.ctcweb.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:59 < jtaji> ascii graphs would be impressive 01:59 < straterra> Most impressive 01:59 < straterra> But you are not a jedi yet 02:08 < charlie> does anyone here have any experience with TV and it's inner-workings, specifically those new converter boxes? 02:09 < exor674> the only experience I have is 1. don't open them and 2. if its smoking or on fire, yank the cord 02:09 < charlie> bah :P 02:09 < charlie> well I can't figure out if they're only for antenna sources, or if they'll work with wall jack sources too 02:10 < path-> you need an antenna 02:11 < path-> i'm almost certain they are for over the air digital 02:11 < Nevyn> they're for over the air signals, thus antenna 02:11 < charlie> hrm =( 02:11 < path-> i heard they have new fangled rabbit ears that work better 02:11 < charlie> I can't figure out how to solve this problem, then. I have a SlingBox SOLO, which doesn't have a built in tuner, and you need component source for it to work 02:11 < path-> you want to use it instead of renting a cable box? 02:11 < charlie> No ^ 02:12 < path-> i thought slingbox's could change channels 02:12 < path-> i'm not that familiar with the line though 02:13 < charlie> It can change channels, my version has to use one of those infrared things that you hook onto your cable box, DVR, etc 02:14 < charlie> also, does anyone know when the linode "christmas upgrades" are coming? ;-) 02:15 < path-> linode has christmas upgrades? 02:15 < charlie> well, i'm assuming they will 02:15 < charlie> they did last year iirc 02:16 < charlie> yeah, they gave 20% more ram on all packages last christmas 02:22 < Internat> yeah so were all gonna be hugely disapointed if we dont get anything this year ;) 02:24 < charlie> maybe we'll get coal 02:29 < exor674> they should just mail us all SIMMs 02:32 < straterra> I want..a nas :P 02:32 < straterra> 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TwistOfFate> how can i determine which data centre is closer to me 03:28 < TwistOfFate> something i can ping? 03:29 < opello> they say where the data centers are somewhere, houston, atlanta, somewhere else ... 03:29 < opello> where houston is dallas ... 03:29 < TwistOfFate> what's the shit one that blocks everything? 03:30 < TwistOfFate> atlanta? 03:30 < opello> yeah 03:30 < TwistOfFate> well i'm currently on newark. 03:30 < TwistOfFate> i'm running a game server off my linode 03:30 < TwistOfFate> average ping to the server is 270ms 03:30 < TwistOfFate> hoping i can move it to a data centre which is closer. 03:30 < opello> http://www.linode.com/why.cfm 03:30 < opello> there's the list :) 03:32 < TwistOfFate> hmmm 03:32 < TwistOfFate> freemont would be the closest geographically to me. 03:32 < TwistOfFate> any linode staff awake? 03:33 < TwistOfFate> opello, mind if i ask which data centre your linode is on? 03:33 < opello> dallas 03:33 < opello> there's a list of test ips i think, if you wanted to ping 03:33 < TwistOfFate> that would be good 03:33 < exor674_> !download 03:33 < linbot> http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 03:33 < TwistOfFate> i need to determine which has the best average roundtrip 03:33 < exor674_> eek, why do I have a tail? 03:34 -!- exor674_ is now known as exor674 03:34 < opello> there you go :) heh 03:34 < opello> someone that knows what's going on is here at least ;) 03:37 < TwistOfFate> hmmm 03:37 < TwistOfFate> well, after pinging them. 03:37 < TwistOfFate> it turns out the one i'm currently on (newark), is in fact the one with the highest roundtrip. 03:37 < TwistOfFate> fremont has the lowest roundtrip 03:37 < TwistOfFate> under 200ms 03:38 -!- fearoffish [~fearoffis@host81-141-125-99.wlms-broadband.com] has joined #linode 03:41 < TwistOfFate> so open a ticket you reckon opello? 03:41 < opello> yeah 03:41 < opello> if you don't mind brining up your box again, you can just delete your node and it won't have to get transferred across the country 03:42 < TwistOfFate> won't i lose everything 03:42 -!- exor674 is now known as exor|zzz 03:43 < opello> oh yeah 03:43 < opello> just takes time to transfer it, and if you can easily bring it back up ... it's worthwhile as a timesaver 03:44 < opello> if you the time to transfer is less than the time to bring up from nothing, then it's probably worthwhile :) if it takes longer to setup ... not so much 03:44 < opello> but $gameserver setup is usually not *huge* (hlds is few configs and then maps, easy to drop in, for example) 03:45 < opello> that's all 03:46 -!- N1JER [~N1JER@adsl-99-170-154-170.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: N1JER] 03:49 -!- ph^ [~ph^@62.80-203-249.nextgentel.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02 -!- RiverRat [me@97-112-144-119.clsp.qwest.net] has joined #linode 04:10 -!- golb_ is now known as golb 04:13 -!- getsmart [~getsmart@88-149-241-52.dynamic.ngi.it] has joined #linode 04:27 -!- RichGuk [~RichGuk@212.159.53.169] has 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HoopyCat> TwistOfFate: it appears a small quantity of lines get added, probably by the xenify-distro magic, adding xvc0, hvc0, and tty0 07:36 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #linode 07:39 < Deviation> Argh. This again http://p.linode.com/1891 07:39 < TwistOfFate> HoopyCat, i just replaced mine 07:39 < TwistOfFate> can i please have a copy? 07:39 < Deviation> Sucks that I can't even get to the console 07:40 < bob2> TwistOfFate: also, etckeeper is awesome 07:41 < TwistOfFate> etchkeeper? 07:43 < TwistOfFate> i just did a apt-get dist-upgrade to lenny 07:43 < TwistOfFate> and accidently overwrote /etc/securetty 07:43 < SpaceHobo> TO THE JINGLE JAIL WITH THE NONBELIEVERS! 07:43 -!- zerojinx [~rmp@host217-37-217-64.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Quit: zerojinx] 07:43 < SpaceHobo> !summer 07:43 < linbot> http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk 07:44 < Deviation> !SpaceHobo 07:44 < SpaceHobo> !ftp 07:44 < linbot> Please use SSH/SCP/SFTP/rsync-over-ssh instead of FTP: http://stevenf.pbwiki.com/Don%2527t-Use-FTP 07:44 < Deviation> Hmm nothing... ;) 07:44 < SpaceHobo> !sendmail 07:44 < linbot> Please don't install sendmail: despite the catchy name it isn't your best option for a mail server. If your needs are simple, consider postfix. More complex? Try exim. Don't need your server to receve mail? Try ssmtp. 07:45 < SpaceHobo> damn, that one has a typo 07:45 < FFEMTcJ_> how do you get the directions on how to use linbot 07:45 < SpaceHobo> FFEMTcJ_: watch and learn 07:45 < Deviation> !help 07:45 < linbot> Deviation: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 07:45 < FFEMTcJ_> lol 07:45 < fo0bar> lolz 07:45 < mikegrb_> lolz 07:45 < linbot> lolz 07:45 * SpaceHobo mops the drool off FFEMTcJ_'s chin 07:45 -!- FFEMTcJ_ is now known as FFEMTcJ 07:47 < HoopyCat> TwistOfFate: http://p.linode.com/1892 07:50 < TwistOfFate> much appreciated HoopyCat, thanks. 07:50 < SpaceHobo> o hai 07:51 -!- Nat_RH_ [~Nat@pilot.trilug.org] has left #linode [] 07:55 < HoopyCat> TwistOfFate: np :-) 07:57 < TwistOfFate> hmmm 07:57 < TwistOfFate> 2hrs until my linode is migrated. 07:58 -!- mikegrb_ is now known as mikegrb 07:59 < HoopyCat> she blinded me with science (deep, doop, dooo) 08:00 -!- mode/#linode [+o mikegrb] by ChanServ 08:01 < HoopyCat> exor|zzz: btw, the exec snippet cured my zombie outbreak. thanks! 08:05 < TwistOfFate> what time does the linode manager work in? 08:05 < TwistOfFate> utc? 08:06 < SelfishMan> TwistOfFate: The tz that you set 08:06 < Deviation> TwistOfFate: Whatever time you set it to 08:07 < TwistOfFate> i'm looking through 08:07 < TwistOfFate> where do you set it 08:07 < Deviation> TwistOfFate: https://www.linode.com/members/profile/ 08:08 < Deviation> There's a drop down for timezone there 08:08 < TwistOfFate> ah right 08:08 < TwistOfFate> thanks 08:09 < Deviation> np 08:10 < SelfishMan> what procs are in the uml hosts? 08:11 < SpaceHobo> http://isitchristmas.com 08:12 < Deviation> NO 08:14 < SpaceHobo> depends on whereyou are 08:15 < SpaceHobo> in eastern australia it's already christmas fifteen 08:15 < SelfishMan> How do you figure that? 08:16 < SpaceHobo> SelfishMan: are you familiar with time zones? 08:16 < SelfishMan> Oh wow, working on a server an hour behind me. Thought you were an hour ahead 08:16 < SpaceHobo> In Canberra, Australia, the date and time are roughly 0:15 on 25 December 2008 08:16 < SelfishMan> Can't keep these damn systems straight half the time 08:16 -!- rs_ [~rs@A6466.a.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [] 08:16 < TwistOfFate> i'm in north eastern australia, we don't have daylight saving up here. so there's still 45mins til xmas. 08:16 < TwistOfFate> but the southern states are already there, yeah. 08:16 < SpaceHobo> yeah 08:17 < StevenK> Right, it's 12:17am here 08:24 -!- JWright [~josh@75-95-39-152.syr.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #linode 08:29 -!- jazari [~58e1d344@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 08:31 < jazari> hi all , i need linone promo code? 08:36 -!- snitko [~roman@80.70.230.171] has joined #linode 08:36 < Deviation> just email me your credit card info and I'll send you one :p 08:36 < Deviation> I haven't seen any recent ones 08:37 < Deviation> You can always check www.webhostingtalk.com 08:37 < TwistOfFate> there are no current promotion codes afaik 08:37 < Deviation> They post their specials on the advertising section 08:37 < TwistOfFate> the ones on retailmenot.com are old. 08:38 -!- HockeyInJune[_] is now known as HockeyInJune 08:40 < jazari> @Deviation thanks! :) 08:42 < jazari> i will find it! 08:47 < tasaro> jazari: the only current promos are the prepay discounts 08:48 < jazari> himm.. ok! thanks 08:48 < checkers> 22:12 < chequers> I use 15 08:48 < checkers> oops, 08:48 < checkers> merry xmas all 08:49 < TwistOfFate> i want a 10gb pipe to my linode as a present. 08:49 < checkers> only to your linode? 08:50 < TwistOfFate> linode give out ram upgrades from time to time. 08:50 < TwistOfFate> 10gb pipe would work too 08:50 < HoopyCat> http://www.noradsanta.org/en/home.html 08:51 < HoopyCat> omg, brisbane has been crushed by a package so huge it can be seen from space :-( 08:51 -!- JWright [~josh@75-95-39-152.syr.clearwire-dns.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:53 < 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Deviation> mmmkay 09:02 < SpaceHobo> BE STOMPED 09:02 < SpaceHobo> BE STOMPED 09:02 -!- row [row@who.br0ke.me.uk] has joined #linode 09:02 < SpaceHobo> BY HIS JOLLY BOOTS OF DOOM 09:02 -!- Jeremy [jeremy@stormy.dwncrk.bc.ssnet.ca] has joined #linode 09:02 -!- avongauss [~avongauss@irc.avongauss.info] has joined #linode 09:02 -!- brother [foobaz@vps1.hacking.dk] has joined #linode 09:03 -!- bob2 [rob@egads.ertius.org] has joined #linode 09:03 -!- mwalling [mwalling@you.dontlike.us] has joined #linode 09:05 -!- Bass10 [~fake@c-76-113-194-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #linode 09:07 * HoopyCat plays the hi-hat on every count, then on the first beat and the third beat, plays the bass drum 09:08 -!- agentbleubleu [~agentbleu@lns-bzn-28-82-250-154-92.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #linode 09:08 < Deviation> So by selecting Latest 2.6 Series kernel I should be running the latest and greatest right? 09:09 < caker> latest _stable_ 09:09 -!- fearoffish [~fearoffis@host81-141-125-99.wlms-broadband.com] has joined #linode 09:09 < Deviation> So is 2.6.18.8-linode10 the latest stable then? 09:10 < Deviation> Because I also see Latest 2.6 Series (2.6.23.17-linode43) 09:10 < tasaro> linode.com known to let the beat 09:10 < caker> Deviation: that page lists kernels for both UML and Xen. And they're different 09:10 < Deviation> Ohhh... 09:10 < Deviation> that's what I was missing 09:11 < caker> yeah .. it needs fixin 09:11 -!- Bass10 [~fake@c-76-113-194-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:11 < Deviation> Good to know I'm not the only one who's missed that 09:12 < Deviation> Well you are finishing up the design. Could just slap UML / Linux on a few lines right? ;-) 09:12 < Deviation> *Xen 09:12 < TwistOfFate> and change latest 2.6 to latest stable 2.6 09:12 < TwistOfFate> i'm running the 2.6.27-linode14 or whaever 09:12 < Deviation> ^ that too 09:12 < TwistOfFate> and it seems to run fine 09:13 < FFEMTcJ> is anyone really good with OOo3 calc? 09:13 < Deviation> Well my linode has enough troubles without me experimenting with kernels... Not the linode's fault of course 09:13 < TwistOfFate> are you running debian? 09:14 -!- DephNet[Paul] [~paul@87.114.140.57.plusnet.thn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #linode 09:14 -!- Bass10 [~fake@c-76-113-194-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #linode 09:14 -!- xitology [~xi@golovko1.donbass.com] has joined #linode 09:14 < Deviation> TwistOfFate: Me? No. I'm running centOS 09:15 < Deviation> My server regularly runs outta swap. I can't seem to pin down the culprit 09:15 < FFEMTcJ> mysql/apache? 09:15 < Deviation> Both 09:15 < HoopyCat> Deviation: how's your cache/buffers look? 09:15 < FFEMTcJ> have you optimized 09:15 < FFEMTcJ> ? 09:16 < Deviation> 2.4 and 30 on the cache/buffers 09:16 < Deviation> Umm I've tried 09:16 * HoopyCat marks Deviation -2 for lack of units 09:16 < FFEMTcJ> im not familiar with cent.. does your top give a % of mem usage for mysql 09:16 < SelfishMan> What does the site traffic look like? How many concurrent connections average? 09:17 < Deviation> I've reduced the MaxChilds on Apache to 128 from 256. Checked my tables in MySQL 09:17 < SelfishMan> MaxChilds won't reduce memory usage much but MaxServers will 09:17 < Deviation> MySQL is at 126308 kB 09:17 < FFEMTcJ> Deviation: take a look at http://chrisjohnston.org/2008/configuring-a-lightweight-apache-mysql-install-on-debian-ubuntu 09:17 < SelfishMan> Are there many slow queries? 09:18 < b4> i should optomize 09:18 < Deviation> No slow queries 09:18 < SelfishMan> b4: Why? 09:18 < Deviation> Well this linode has 20 domains on it 09:18 < b4> because i like optomizing 09:19 < SelfishMan> Optimizing isn't always a good thing 09:19 < Deviation> Of the 20, 4 get decetn traffic 09:19 < SelfishMan> Deviation: That means nothing 09:19 < Deviation> The larger site gets about 3500 hits on average 09:20 < Deviation> runs drupal 09:20 < b4> eww drupal 09:20 < SelfishMan> Does the site content change frequently? 09:20 < praetorian> ...eww php? :P 09:20 < Deviation> No 09:20 * HoopyCat marks Deviation -1 for lack of proper units 09:20 < SelfishMan> Are you running a php opcode cache? You may want to turn up the mysql query cache 09:20 < b4> RoR ftw! 09:21 < SelfishMan> b4: Ewwwwwwwwwwwww 09:21 < b4> also PHP ftw! 09:21 < b4> HTML ftw! 09:21 < SelfishMan> b4: EWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 09:21 < SelfishMan> b4: Yay! 09:21 < b4> apache ftw! 09:21 < SelfishMan> meh 09:21 < b4> i lvoe apache ^.^ 09:22 < b4> hmmm 09:22 < b4> should I install typo? (http://typosphere.org) 09:23 < Deviation> HoopyCat: MB 09:23 -!- jazari [~58e1d344@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23 < praetorian> .txt ftw! 09:23 < Deviation> FFEMTcJ: MaxClients is what I changed 09:23 < Deviation> Based on Apache's site 09:23 < b4> wat 09:23 < b4> typo requries a lot or dependencies 09:24 < b4> isn't Ruby from Japan? 09:25 < Deviation> SelfishMan: No I'm not running opcode cache. I'll look into turning up the query cache 09:25 < SelfishMan> Deviation: Install an opcode cache like APC or xcache 09:25 -!- snitko [~roman@80.70.230.171] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 09:26 < SelfishMan> APC is planned to be default for the next release of PHP 09:26 < SelfishMan> Of course, support for threading under apache was planned for PHP4 09:26 < Deviation> Heh 09:26 < TwistOfFate> 20mins til my linode is migrated 09:26 < TwistOfFate> come on you bloody thing 09:26 < b4> Building native extensions. This could take a while... 09:26 < b4> extconf.rb:1:in `require': no such file to load -- mkmf (LoadError) 09:26 < b4> from extconf.rb:1 09:27 < b4> rubygems sucks 09:27 < HoopyCat> b4: error on line 1! epic fail 09:28 * Deviation Deducts 1 point from HoopyCat for using the word epic 09:28 -!- zerojinx [~rmp@host217-37-217-64.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #linode 09:29 * b4 forces Deviation to develop a chicken emulator 09:29 < b4> or a cat emulator 09:30 < b4> i hate typo3 09:32 < b4> whats worse: typo3 or joomla 09:32 < straterr1> I like joomla 09:32 < mwalling> thatswhatshesaid 09:32 < mwalling> straterr1: funny nick alert 09:33 < b4> joomla is insecure! 09:34 -!- snitko [~roman@80.70.230.171] has joined #linode 09:34 < Deviation> b4: Are you just sampling every CMS/blog package? 09:35 < b4> no 09:35 < b4> i've only used about 5 09:35 < b4> joomla tangocms drupal typo3 09:35 < b4> i think thats it 09:35 < HoopyCat> i'd think you'd like something by the name of typo, b4 09:35 < b4> HoopyCat, i hate it 09:36 < mikegrb> HoopyCat: woooooosh 09:36 < caker> near miss. 09:36 < HoopyCat> isn't a near-miss a hit, caker? 09:36 < FFEMTcJ> budgets suck 09:37 -!- binel [~h00s@78-0-202-37.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #linode 09:37 < b4> HoopyCat, no 09:38 < caker> it's a miss that was near. 09:38 < b4> a near-miss is a near-miss 09:38 < caker> but you had me thinking :) 09:38 * b4 is bored 09:38 < b4> what to do... 09:38 < b4> I should use that treadmill motor to fling CDs 09:39 < checkers> check the tree again and see if santa came yet 09:39 < b4> wtf 09:40 < b4> no chrome for linux yet? 09:40 < b4> does it run in wine? 09:40 < HoopyCat> b4: 23 lines without a typo! 09:40 < b4> HoopyCat, seriously? 09:41 < HoopyCat> b4: last typo: 09:24 b4 typo requries a lot or dependencies 09:41 < straterr1> mwalling: hmm? 09:41 < mwalling> straterr1 09:41 < straterr1> oh 09:41 < straterr1> boo 09:41 -!- straterr1 is now known as straterra 09:41 < scott> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ahNr4U-BAvQ 09:42 -!- binel_ [~h00s@93-141-62-120.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:43 < HoopyCat> scott: hahaha... they're smoking indoors! 09:43 < scott> i know! 09:43 < HoopyCat> i lol'd 09:43 < fo0bar> lolz 09:43 < mikegrb> lolz 09:43 < linbot> lolz 09:43 < scott> HoopyCat: can you hold this for a second? 09:43 -!- b4_ [~b4@ppp-69-218-227-40.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #linode 09:44 < HoopyCat> nay, i've only got one arm 09:46 < b4> yay 09:46 < scott> :( 09:46 < b4> watch b4_ ping 09:47 < b4> i killed the system with urandom 09:47 -!- Sputnik7 [~Sputnik7@c-71-192-5-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: -=SysReset 2.53=-] 09:50 < HoopyCat> b4: you haven't properly killed a system's PRNG until cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail returns "a three-legged cow, a travel guide for milwaukee, and an indian head test card with j.r. 'bob' dobbs instead of the indian... and that's about it" 09:50 < b4> :P 09:52 < TwistOfFate> i just migrated my linode 09:52 < TwistOfFate> and i can't ssh to it now 09:52 < b4> try the new IPs 09:52 < b4> or try booting it 09:52 < TwistOfFate> i have. 09:52 < TwistOfFate> i've booted it 09:52 < TwistOfFate> i can access the console 09:53 < b4> try lish 09:53 < TwistOfFate> but i can't ssh to it 09:53 < b4> fix the sshd 09:53 < b4> via lsih 09:53 < b4> wtf 09:53 < TwistOfFate> well i don't understand why i would be broken. 09:53 < b4> b4_ hasn't pinged out yet!? 09:53 < HoopyCat> TwistOfFate: does the dashboard show that it's running? 09:54 -!- b4_ [~b4@ppp-69-218-227-40.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:54 < HoopyCat> TwistOfFate: did you migrate to a different datacenter, or are you in the same datacenter? 09:56 < TwistOfFate> i understand what's happened here. 09:56 < TwistOfFate> i chcanged from a dhcp to static address 09:56 < TwistOfFate> so i need to change /etc/network/interfaces 09:57 < SelfishMan> TwistOfFate: All public IPs from Linode are static 09:57 < SelfishMan> Even if you use DHCP they are fixed 09:57 < TwistOfFate> how do i setup to use dhcp 09:57 < SelfishMan> If all you did was migrate within the same DC then nothing needs to change 09:58 < TwistOfFate> i changed dc's 09:58 < SelfishMan> Personally I use static as I see no reason to have a DHCP client running on a server using memory 09:58 < SelfishMan> Since you changed DCs use LISH to connect and edit the /etc/network/interfaces file to the new addresses 09:58 < TwistOfFate> ok 09:58 < HoopyCat> TwistOfFate: if you're planning on hanging out in that datacenter awhile, probably just replace the IP addresses with your new stuff 09:58 < TwistOfFate> i'll do so now 09:59 < SelfishMan> Remember, your LISH connection info is different now 10:00 -!- Sputnik7 [~Sputnik7@c-71-192-5-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #linode 10:00 -!- Sephiroth_ [sephiroth@78.32.118.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:00 < b4> ** (process:16669): WARNING **: Can not stat /tmp/orbit-b4 10:00 < b4> ** ERROR **: Resource problem creating '/tmp/orbit-b4' 10:00 < b4> what did i break? 10:01 < TwistOfFate> we're back in business guys, thanks. 10:01 < b4> er 10:01 < b4> wtf 10:01 < b4> i broke /tmp 10:02 -!- Sephiroth [sephiroth@78.32.118.87] has joined #linode 10:03 < b4> what should the permissions of /tmp be? 10:03 * b4 chmodd'd it D: 10:04 < b4> ummm 10:04 < b4> i broke /tmp didnt it 10:04 < b4> :S 10:06 < SpaceHobo> b4: chmod 777 /tmp; chmod +t /tmp 10:06 < SpaceHobo> b4: or sudo chmod 1777 /tmp 10:06 < SpaceHobo> I always forget which one is tmp bit 10:06 < SpaceHobo> had to look it up 10:07 -!- ph^ [~ph^@62.80-203-249.nextgentel.com] has joined #linode 10:07 < SpaceHobo> chmod a+rwx,u+t /tmp 10:07 < SpaceHobo> that's the other way 10:07 < SpaceHobo> hmm, I thought it was o+t... 10:08 < b4> now is a good time to instakll 64-bit... 10:08 < b4> how do i uhhh 10:08 < b4> make a tar.gz of my home directory 10:08 < b4> or a .tar for that matter' 10:08 < reillyeon> b4: Well, if tar doesn't work, the file format is simple enough to write by hand... 10:09 < SpaceHobo> tar czvf /path/to/archive.tar.gz /home/mydir 10:09 < caker> tar: /home/mydir: Cannot stat: No such file or directory 10:09 < caker> :( 10:10 < b4> how do i exclude a directory/file? 10:10 < b4> --exclude? 10:10 < HoopyCat> tar: /path/to/archive.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory 10:10 < HoopyCat> :-( 10:10 < caker> b4: there are these things called man pages 10:10 < b4> i broke /tmp 10:10 < b4> so im installing 64-bit :P 10:10 < caker> b4: READ THEM 10:10 < b4> caker, ok 10:11 < b4> thats a helpful man page 10:11 < b4> er i fail 10:11 < HoopyCat> most are, now that richard stallman is dead 10:12 < b4> hm 10:12 < b4> im backign up .isos 10:12 < b4> nicew 10:12 < caker> b4: more content, less enter key, please. 10:12 < b4> im backign up backups 10:12 < caker> or just less of everything 10:13 * HoopyCat starts zonealarm on his linode and tries to figure out where the wife keeps the pie shell recipe 10:14 -!- ph^ [~ph^@62.80-203-249.nextgentel.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:15 < b4> I am backing up backups that contain backups 10:15 < reillyeon> HoopyCat: Unix really does save your marriage on a daily basis doesn't it. 10:16 -!- TwistOfFate [tictac@c122-108-217-161.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 10:16 < HoopyCat> reillyeon: the debate with regards to printing address labels for the christmas cards was significant, for sure 10:17 < HoopyCat> reillyeon: unix didn't win that one, but i'm confident it would have 10:19 < Clorith> Merr ychristmas fellow linodians =) 10:19 < mwalling> caker: you're not making mikegrb work today? 10:19 < Clorith> and now, I shower and greet the guests 10:19 < mikegrb> I never !work 10:19 * HoopyCat notes to self: DO NOT show up early at Clorith's house 10:19 < mikegrb> how do you think linode rocks so much 10:19 < Clorith> HoopyCat, I'm would' 10:19 < b4> ctcp Clorith time 10:20 < scott> to anyone on host100, i am sorry 10:20 < Clorith> *I would've jsut gone in the denim jeans and my army long sleeved wool top, but my little sister is demanding I dress up :P 10:20 < scott> (dallas 100) 10:20 < HoopyCat> ah bugger, the hole punch punched the recipe right in the middle of the salt and sugar quantities 10:20 < Clorith> scorche, what'd you do! 10:21 < Clorith> wow, tab abused, scott, what'd yo udo :P 10:21 -!- Kassah-lappy [~kassah@66-232-76-204.ctcweb.net] has joined #linode 10:21 < scott> abusing disk io 10:21 < Clorith> oh 10:21 < Clorith> we all do that =P 10:21 * caker waits for it 10:21 < scott> moving /home to its own partition 10:22 < linbot> scott: I abused urmom last night 10:22 < b4> sounds fun 10:22 * Clorith gives it to caker 10:23 * linbot gives it to caker 10:23 < linbot> ooohhhhh caker 10:23 < b4> hm 10:23 -!- eld101 [~eld101@69-214-171-3.ded.ameritech.net] has joined #linode 10:24 < b4> i have a 64-bi capable processor 10:24 * b4 burns ISO 10:24 < eld101> Whats up fellas? 10:24 < b4> eld101, not much herem I am just making backups of backups that contain backups 10:24 < HoopyCat> eld101: chillin', drinkin' some tea, trying to reverse-engineer a recipe 10:24 < eld101> haha...I did that yesterday... 10:25 < eld101> I have a noob question for you all 10:25 < SelfishMan> !ask 10:25 < linbot> Don't ask to ask; just ASK 10:25 < b4> !ask 10:25 < linbot> Don't ask to ask; just ASK 10:25 < SelfishMan> b4: You FAIL 10:25 < eld101> hahaha 10:25 < b4> SelfishMan, I know that 10:25 < eld101> Im sitting here at the airpot waiting for my delayed flight.... 10:25 < HoopyCat> SelfishMan: he meant to type !aks 10:25 < eld101> on this unsecure wireless... 10:25 -!- snitko [~roman@80.70.230.171] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 10:26 < eld101> what could I do with my linode to create a secure connection to it for the net 10:26 < b4> ssh 10:26 < SelfishMan> ssh tunneling 10:26 < b4> oh 10:26 < HoopyCat> HI, SHADY PERSON SITTING NEXT TO ELD101 WITH A DIRECTIONAL ANTENNA! 10:26 < b4> not TO the linode 10:26 < scott> ipsec! 10:26 < reillyeon> ssh -D for a nice SOCKS 5 proxy 10:26 < SelfishMan> openvpn if you want to spend a bit more time 10:26 < b4> but THROUGH the linode 10:27 < eld101> so is ssh tunneling like using ssh to transfer my http traffic to the linode...then back to http from there? 10:27 < eld101> is that easier than open vpn? 10:27 < reillyeon> eld101: it takes one command 10:27 < reillyeon> eld101: ssh -D 8080 your-linode 10:27 < eld101> o rullllllllllllllllllllllyyyyy 10:27 < SelfishMan> You<->tunnel<->linode<->teh interwebs 10:28 < reillyeon> Then reconfigure Firefox to use localhost:8080 as a proxy 10:28 < HoopyCat> reillyeon: <3 10:28 < eld101> that seems to easy lol 10:28 < mikegrb> lolz 10:28 < fo0bar> lolz 10:28 < linbot> lolz 10:28 < eld101> let me try this... 10:29 < reillyeon> HoopyCat: What I didn't tell him, is I'm the creepy guy next to him, and I'm going to MITM the connection anyways, lets see if he knows his SSH key fingerprint. ;-) 10:29 < mwalling> mikegrb: fail 10:29 < eld101> hrmmm....I will have open 8080 on my linode huh 10:29 < reillyeon> for outgoing only 10:29 < mwalling> no... 10:29 < eld101> ok 10:29 < HoopyCat> eld101: shouldn't have to change anything on your linode, if it allows outgoing connections to port 80 on remote machines 10:30 < b4> :D 10:30 < HoopyCat> eld101: ssh will bind to localhost:8080 on your PC, then magick faeries will transport the packets to your linode's sshd, where they will be scattered to the hardwired breezes of the seven tier ones 10:30 < eld101> so .... ssh -D 8080 from my windows pc? 10:30 < reillyeon> ya 10:31 < reillyeon> Assuming you have an actual copy of SSH, I think Putty can do it, there's a checkbox somewhere. 10:32 < HoopyCat> cygwin 1.7's ssh is 5.1p1, which supports -D 10:32 < eld101> I have putty 10:32 < eld101> what would the check box say? 10:32 < reillyeon> SOCKS 5 proxy 10:33 < eld101> and change the port to 8080" 10:33 < reillyeon> ya 10:33 < HoopyCat> Connection -> SSH -> Tunnels -> Source Port 8080, Dynamic, Auto 10:33 < HoopyCat> i think 10:33 < reillyeon> Sorry, I don't use Windows anymore. 10:33 < Yaakov> There seems to be an essential gap in understanding here... 10:34 < BP{k}> HoopyCat: only 440 zombies? that's nothing. had about 1600 last night :) 10:35 < reillyeon> eld101: Guide with screenshots: http://thinkhole.org/wp/2006/05/10/howto-secure-firefox-and-im-with-putty/ 10:35 < reillyeon> (except they use port 7070) 10:36 < HoopyCat> and make sure the HTTP proxy field is blank in firefox; just use the SOCKS5 proxy 10:37 < HoopyCat> tunneling through my dallas linode, whatismyipaddress.com now safely reports me as being in Newmarket, NH 10:37 < eld101> htmmm 10:37 < Yaakov> I need a vt100 terminal emulator for cmd.exe so I can use plink. 10:37 < eld101> everythign is working...but im not convinced its actually going through my linode 10:37 < b4> bbs 10:38 < reillyeon> eld101: go to whatismyipaddress.com 10:38 < Deviation> Man this sucks. Server is chewing up IO like crazy 10:38 < HoopyCat> or go to hoopycat.com and i'll let you know what shows up in my log :-) 10:38 < b4> i'd say mostlynothing.co.cc 10:38 < b4> but logging doens't work 10:38 < Deviation> Had to reboot again... Twice today 10:39 < b4> !!! 10:39 < eld101> just hit hoopycat 10:39 < HoopyCat> eld101: 69.214.171.3 10:39 < HoopyCat> or 141.157.189.233 10:39 < eld101> nawww 10:39 < reillyeon> !dns 69.214.171.3 10:39 < linbot> reillyeon: 69-214-171-3.ded.ameritech.net 10:39 < eld101> yea....thats the airport 10:39 < b4> i knew that was AT&T 10:39 < reillyeon> HoopyCat: Sorry, 141.157.189.233 was me 10:39 < eld101> Im giong to try something 10:39 < eld101> brb 10:40 -!- eld101 [~eld101@69-214-171-3.ded.ameritech.net] has quit [Quit: eld101] 10:40 < HoopyCat> eld101: in firefox, tools -> options -> advanced -> network -> settings -> manual proxy configuration -> socks host has localhost 8080, ri... utoh, he's trying something 10:40 < mikegrb> HoopyCat: it's sugar, just throw in 10 tablespoons and call it good 10:41 < reillyeon> and salt, it's always a pinch 10:42 < b4> u7ggggggggggggggh 10:42 < HoopyCat> 2.5 cups unbeached all-porpoise flowers, 1 teaspoon table salt, 2 tablespoons sugar, 12 tablespoons cold unsalted butter, 1/2 cup cold vegetable shorting, 1/4 cup cold vodak, 1/4 cup cold water 10:43 < b4> bbs installign archlinux 64-boit 10:43 < b4> hmmm 10:44 < HoopyCat> BP{k}: http://hennepin.hoopycat.com/munin/hoopycat.com/bluemoon.hoopycat.com-processes.html shoulda caught my eye 10:44 -!- eld101 [~eld101@69-214-171-3.ded.ameritech.net] has joined #linode 10:44 < eld101> still didnt have any luch 10:44 -!- scott [~scott@scott.netop.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:44 < mwalling> !host hennepin.hoopycat.com 10:45 < HoopyCat> yaknow, i should downgrade and do a zombie-kill once a day and see if i can build a nice sawtooth waveform 10:45 < mwalling> !dns hennepin.hoopycat.com 10:45 < linbot> mwalling: Host not found. 10:45 < HoopyCat> eld101: 2.5 cups unbeached all-porpoise flowers, 1 teaspoon table salt, 2 tablespoons sugar, 12 tablespoons cold unsalted butter, 1/2 cup cold vegetable shorting, 1/4 cup cold vodak, 1/4 cup cold water 10:45 < eld101> haha 10:45 < eld101> maybe 10:45 < HoopyCat> eld101: in firefox, tools -> options -> advanced -> network -> settings -> manual proxy configuration -> socks host has localhost 8080, right? 10:45 < HoopyCat> sorry, wrong retransmission 10:45 < eld101> localhost? or my linode address? 10:45 < reillyeon> localhost 10:45 < HoopyCat> eld101: localhost 10:45 < eld101> ahhh haaaa 10:45 < eld101> let me try that 10:46 < HoopyCat> mwalling: strange, resolves to 2001:4978:17f:1::1 for me 10:46 < mwalling> oh, i dont have ipv6 here 10:46 < HoopyCat> ipv6 is my firewalling, baby 10:46 < eld101> bawlin!!! 10:46 -!- b4{linode} [~roflfail@i.am.mostlynothing.co.cc] has joined #linode 10:46 < eld101> I think that was it 10:46 < b4{linode}> is tehre an IPV6 server? 10:47 < HoopyCat> b4{linode}: http://hennepin.hoopycat.com/ 10:47 < eld101> <-- just hit hoopycat.com 10:47 < HoopyCat> eld101: 207.192.73.96 ? 10:47 < b4{linode}> IPV6 for OFTC 10:47 < reillyeon> !dns 207.192.73.96 10:47 < linbot> reillyeon: cathode.eld101.com 10:47 < eld101> sweet 10:47 < HoopyCat> b4{linode}: irc6.oftc.net 10:47 < b4{linode}> ok 10:47 < eld101> thanks guys 10:47 -!- b4{linode} [~roflfail@i.am.mostlynothing.co.cc] has quit [] 10:47 < reillyeon> no prob 10:47 -!- youfail [~roflfail@i.am.mostlynothing.co.cc] has joined #linode 10:47 < eld101> so let me just make sure I understand whats going on... 10:47 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@yttrium.canonical.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:47 < HoopyCat> eld101: np. :-) 10:48 -!- youfail is now known as b4{linode} 10:48 < eld101> the proxy settings are telling firefox to use port 8080, which ssh is tunneling securly to my linode 10:48 < eld101> thne redirecting it out to the web from there 10:48 < reillyeon> right 10:48 < eld101> thanks! 10:48 < HoopyCat> you wager your walrus 10:49 < eld101> any programs that make the ssh connection and proxy chanes automatially when run? 10:49 < HoopyCat> eld101: you can save a connection profile in putty for that end of it 10:49 < HoopyCat> eld101: there's probably an extension that'll turn proxying on and off for firefox 10:49 < b4{linode}> yay 10:49 < eld101> yea...ill check that out 10:49 < eld101> you guys rock 10:50 < b4{linode}> uggh 10:50 < b4{linode}> i chose a crappy pacman mirror 10:50 < b4{linode}> it's slwoer than the nthrtottled one 10:51 -!- eld101 [~eld101@69-214-171-3.ded.ameritech.net] has quit [Quit: eld101] 10:52 < HoopyCat> ah, right in the middle of a 50-page stack of unsorted recipe printouts is the bbq sauce recipe. it's handwritten on the bottom of "Easy Chocolate Buttercream" 10:53 < tjfontaine> of course it is 10:54 < tjfontaine> b4{linode}: yes there is ipv6 for linode, but you need to connect to irc6.oftc.net to get the AAAA records 10:54 < tjfontaine> though HoopyCat already told you 10:54 -!- arch [~arch@ppp-69-218-227-40.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #linode 10:54 < HoopyCat> tjfontaine: dude, you aren't supposed to leak the oftc/linode merger news until tomorrow 10:54 -!- arch is now known as b4{fail} 10:54 < b4{fail}> Linux archlive 2.6.25-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jun 14 17:44:19 CEST 2008 x86_64 AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 10:54 < b4{fail}> Z:D 10:54 < tjfontaine> HoopyCat: I FAILED again 10:54 < b4{linode}> thats the archlinux CD 10:55 < b4{linode}> 2.6.25 10:55 < b4{linode}> 64 bit 10:55 -!- b4{fail} [~arch@ppp-69-218-227-40.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has quit [] 10:55 -!- hpj [~hpj@30.79-160-149.customer.lyse.net] has joined #linode 10:55 < HoopyCat> b4{linode}: my god, i never thought i'd see the day. 10:56 < b4{linode}> HoopyCat HoopyCat what dya? 10:57 -!- scott [~scott@scott.netop.oftc.net] has joined #linode 10:57 -!- Syn- [~hisyn@70.44.197.175.res-cmts.brd.ptd.net] has joined #linode 10:57 < b4{linode}> HoopyCat: what day? 10:59 < HoopyCat> b4{linode}: disregard 11:03 < mwalling> 10:57 [@Drudge_Report] Mega-orgy in Tel Aviv cancelled due to public pressure... http://tinyurl.com/9ddov6 11:04 -!- elhippo [~elhippo@c-98-194-225-52.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #linode 11:04 < b4{linode}> iam noy going to aks 11:11 -!- shauber_ [~craversp@harmony.shauber.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:11 < b4{linode}> i wonder what the flashing battery light means 11:14 -!- TerraTreble [~notafraid@c-24-22-229-236.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 11:14 -!- Seannachie [~notafraid@c-24-22-229-236.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:14 -!- exor|zzz is now known as exor674 11:16 -!- zerojinx [~rmp@host217-37-217-64.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Quit: zerojinx] 11:20 -!- chopp_ [~chopp@li41-134.members.linode.com] has joined #linode 11:21 < b4{linode}> time to rbeoot into 64-=bit almost 11:21 -!- b4{linode} [~roflfail@i.am.mostlynothing.co.cc] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:25 -!- zerojinx [~rmp@host217-37-217-64.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #linode 11:27 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:30 -!- ondrej [~ondra@185-183.ktct.cz] has joined #linode 11:35 -!- zerojinx [~rmp@host217-37-217-64.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Quit: zerojinx] 11:38 < Deviation> Woohoo.. Gone from 300MB of memory used to 98MB 11:38 < Deviation> Now if it will just stay nice & low 11:42 -!- samuel [~samuel@201.153.21.131] has joined #linode 11:43 < Deviation> Now to trim the fat from the apache modules 11:44 < Deviation> Anyone know what I would want mod_proxy running on Apache? 11:45 < Deviation> ..or any of its relatives (mod_proxy_http, mod_ftp_proxy) 11:48 < mwalling> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_proxy.html 11:56 < Deviation> Yeah I got that... Just not sure why it was enabled by default. Apparently subversion uses it somehow 11:58 < mwalling> eh? 11:58 < mwalling> what distro? 11:58 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@78-105-8-188.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #linode 11:58 < Deviation> I think its part of Virtualmin... CentOS 11:59 < Syn-> so how easy is this upgrade process to go from a 360 to a new plan? Will my lighttpd/php/mysql config stack be transfered over to the new server automagically? what about user cronjobs? 11:59 < Deviation> All of it 12:00 -!- Seannachie [~notafraid@c-24-22-229-236.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 12:00 < Deviation> http://www.linode.com/faq.cfm#can-i-upgrade-my-linode 12:00 < Syn-> any possible issues/complications to note? 12:00 < irgeek> Syn-: You'll have a little bit of downtime while disk images are transferred, but everything will come back up just as it was. 12:00 < mwalling> Syn-: your disk images are copied over to your new host, you hit boot, vollia 12:00 -!- TerraTreble [~notafraid@c-24-22-229-236.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:00 < scorche|sh> Syn-: except for the time you wait during the migration, it should be seamless...unless your IP changes because you move to a different datacenter, etc 12:00 < mwalling> Deviation: ubuntu and slackware both do not have it enabled by default 12:00 < Syn-> oh so the disk image wont be expanded then, ill have free diskspace to create a new mount point? 12:00 < Deviation> Hrm 12:00 < irgeek> Yeah. 12:01 < mwalling> or you can expand your disk image 12:01 < irgeek> Or you can resize the disks to make them bigger. Up to you. 12:01 < Peng_> You can shrink your disk image beforehand so it'll transfer more quickly. 12:01 < Syn-> o_O really, gesh this makes things too easy 12:01 < Syn-> thanks 12:01 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 12:02 < mwalling> irgeek: thats a questoin for your docs 12:02 -!- samuel [~samuel@201.153.21.131] has quit [Quit: samuel] 12:03 < charlie> how does planet.linode work? 12:04 < mwalling> using planetplanet? 12:04 < irgeek> charlie: If you want your blog included, submit a ticket and we'll add it. 12:04 < mwalling> "To have your blog listed, please open a Support Ticket with subject "Planet Linode" and include the URL for your blog's feed in RSS format and the name you would like it displayed under." 12:04 -!- loxs [~loxs@83.228.105.238] has joined #linode 12:04 -!- loxs [~loxs@83.228.105.238] has quit [] 12:05 < Syn-> ha contributed to the faq i see by asking! :] 12:05 < charlie> oh, it just needs an RSS feed? 12:06 < mwalling> charlie: first 2 paragraphs on planet.linode.com 12:06 < irgeek> mwalling: It's in the FAQ. 12:06 < charlie> Do "Atom" feeds work? 12:06 < mwalling> irgeek: its not very detailed 12:07 < mwalling> irgeek: f.e. it doesnt mention the downtime during migration 12:08 < irgeek> charlie: Yes, we can pull from an Atom feed. 12:08 < charlie> awesome 12:11 -!- Deviation [~4ada9a62@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11 < mwalling> !download 12:11 < linbot> http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 12:12 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:14 < charlie> what the hell, new linode homepage? O_o 12:14 < irgeek> Blame/praise caker. 12:15 < charlie> hehe ^_^ 12:15 < charlie> i like it 12:15 < charlie> wait what happened to the community tab >_> 12:15 < exor674> I ate it! sorry 12:15 -!- HedgeMage [~HedgeMage@c-67-175-41-252.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #linode 12:17 < SelfishMan> My only question is if the new web page is web 0.00009 compliant 12:17 < irgeek> charlie: It's on the main page, but not in the members section. 12:18 < charlie> :P 12:19 < irgeek> SelfishMan: Web 0.00009 compliance is in beta, but it's mostly complete. 12:20 < SelfishMan> Beta as defined by Google or Microsoft? 12:20 < irgeek> We're just waiting on the blink tag rollout. 12:21 < SelfishMan> So, what is your (un)official title at Linode? 12:22 < irgeek> New Guy. 12:24 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 12:24 < exor674> I still vote you just wrap the fecker in a marquee 12:26 < mwalling> isnt 1 a prime number? 12:26 < mwalling> its only divisiable by 1 and itsself... 12:26 * SelfishMan wonders if mwalling is reading xkcd 12:26 < mwalling> yes 12:26 < SelfishMan> start counting at zero 12:27 < mwalling> oh 12:27 < mwalling> headdesk 12:27 < mwalling> tjfontaine: "friggin' python" 12:27 < SelfishMan> Oh wait, maybe not 12:27 < exor674> "In mathematics, a prime number (or a prime) is a natural number which has exactly two distinct natural number divisors: 1 and itself." 12:27 < exor674> nyah 12:28 < charlie> oh right, new xkcd 12:28 < irgeek> SelfishMan: Yeah, starting at zero doesn't work. 12:29 < SelfishMan> Yeah, 1 isn't technically a prime number 12:29 < Yaakov> irgeek: I have a carbon fiber laptop! 12:30 < charlie> "Great, Bill Gates kills Sants", "I thought it was stallman with a dyed beard" xD 12:35 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:36 -!- eld101 [~eld101@cathode.eld101.com] has joined #linode 12:36 -!- eld101 [~eld101@cathode.eld101.com] has quit [] 12:36 -!- eld101 [~eld101@cathode.eld101.com] has joined #linode 12:37 < irgeek> charlie: What name do you want your blog to show up under in the planet.linode.com feed? 12:37 < charlie> whatever I have in my atom feed, i think it's "Charles Melbye" 12:39 < eld101> any suggestions what I should do with www.bitchesbetrippin.com 12:39 < irgeek> Pictures of female dogs falling over things? 12:40 < eld101> though about it.... but probably not.... 12:42 -!- xitology [~xi@golovko1.donbass.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:44 < path-> "An integer greater than one is called a prime number if its only positive divisors (factors) are one and itself." 12:46 * irgeek wonders why his printer does not have a button for "Ok, I added paper. Print FFS!" 12:46 < path-> mine has that, it's called OK 12:47 < irgeek> Mine doesn't. The only way to get it to check for paper is to open and close the toner cover. 12:47 < irgeek> Stupid $90 LaserJet. 12:48 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 12:48 < exor674> lol 12:48 < fo0bar> lolz 12:48 < mikegrb> lolz 12:48 < linbot> lolz 12:48 < exor674> thats when you push it out the window 12:49 < mwalling> make sure it lands on your car 12:49 < eld101> <-- hates ink jet printers and will never buy another 12:49 < mwalling> then you can file a claim and get a new printer and a new car ;) 12:51 < exor674> "My printer um.... fell out the window... on to my car that I parked on the grass umm..... because they told me to" 12:51 < irgeek> Who's they? 12:52 < exor674> big brother? 12:52 < exor674> the voices in your head? 12:52 < irgeek> That's what I figured. 12:54 -!- TerraTreble [~notafraid@c-24-22-229-236.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 12:54 < irgeek> New project: http://www.instructables.com/id/Giant_100mm_LED/ 12:55 -!- Seannachie [~notafraid@c-24-22-229-236.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56 < eld101> haha 12:56 < eld101> nice 12:58 -!- jcn [~jcn@207-237-244-88.c3-0.nyw-ubr2.nyr-nyw.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #linode 13:00 -!- eld101 [~eld101@cathode.eld101.com] has quit [Quit: eld101] 13:06 -!- scientes [~scientes@75-165-76-78.tukw.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:07 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:08 -!- TerraTreble [~notafraid@c-24-22-229-236.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:09 < mwalling> step 5 is easier to do on a band saw 13:13 < straterra> whats step 5, castration? 13:14 -!- Eman [OHGODHOW@dyn216-8-131-144.ADSL.mnsi.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:15 -!- Eman [OHGODHOW@dyn216-8-163-172.ADSL.mnsi.net] has joined #linode 13:17 -!- dvgrhl [~dvgrhl@c-76-22-109-182.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24 < SelfishMan> Um...WTF? 13:25 < SelfishMan> castration? What did I miss? 13:25 < mwalling> nothing... its straterra... he <-- is still at the airport waiting for his flight that has now been delayed 4 hours 13:31 < BP{k}> eld101: :( that sucks 13:35 < eld101> certainly does 13:35 < eld101> they push it back like 20 minutes at a time 13:35 < eld101> were about to board!!!! o wait.... 20 more minutes 13:36 -!- dvgrhl [~dvgrhl@c-76-22-109-182.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 13:36 < BP{k}> eld101: heh yeah. I had that last year. arrived at the airport at 7am to catch a 9am flight, didn't take off till 8pm .. major fail. 13:37 < mwalling> Wx or other reason? 13:37 < eld101> It was weather... not it just says air traffic control 13:37 < eld101> now* 13:37 < eld101> its BULL SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTT 13:38 < eld101> the airlines need to all get their shit together 13:38 < exor674> "pilot got drunk, we're waiting or him to sober up" 13:38 < eld101> haha....fuggit....let me fly 13:39 < eld101> I wonder if we can take beers from the bar area to the gate....im thinking no 13:40 < mwalling> what are they going to do, detain you has a terorist? 13:40 < BP{k}> eld101: have you checked NORAD? 13:40 < eld101> naw 13:40 < BP{k}> maybe the airways have to be clear for Santa :) 13:40 < eld101> been on here... http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?airline=(CO)+Continental+Airlines&flightNumber=2889&departureDate=2008-12-24 13:40 < mwalling> !rimshot 13:40 < HoopyCat> irgeek: bonus points if you include the World's Largest 1k Resistor 13:40 < eld101> I already had my run in with security today 13:40 < BP{k}> http://www.noradsanta.org/ 13:40 < mwalling> !rimshot 13:41 -!- Toba [~eastein@gateway.66fruit.com] has joined #linode 13:41 < mwalling> !rimshot 13:41 < linbot> http://instantrimshot.com/ 13:41 < mwalling> ba doom boom psh 13:41 < HoopyCat> eld101: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BTA2889 13:41 < exor674> is the plane there? or did they somehow lose the plane? 13:42 < exor674> how does one misplace a plane/ 13:42 < eld101> its been here a few minutes... but ewr is fucked for some reason 13:42 < BP{k}> "BROKEN PLANE" ;) 13:42 < eld101> OHHH NO!!!! its raining.... lets slow these planes down 13:42 < b4> x86_64 13:43 < exor674> I think 'drunk pilot' would work better 13:43 < BP{k}> eld101: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DagVklB4VHQ ;) 13:43 < HoopyCat> your flight has been upgraded to a complex plane; as such, it's now imaginary 13:45 < exor674> speaking of planes.... I wanna fly first class someday 13:45 < mwalling> exor674: get bumpped 13:46 < eld101> BP: thanks for the comedy ;) 13:46 < BP{k}> eld101: hehe. I first saw that the night before I went flying one day. the safety announcements have since then been much more amusing :) 13:46 < eld101> hahahahaha 13:47 * exor674 dies 13:48 < exor674> get on the plane part 13:49 < eld101> BP: Ive got this cranked up with like 10 people watching over my shoulder 13:49 < BP{k}> eld101: \o/ 13:49 < tjfontaine> this one goes to 11 13:49 < mwalling> thatswhatshesaid 13:49 < jkwood_> in bed! 13:50 < exor674> be careul, you might be a suspected terrorist for spreading humor 13:50 < mwalling> dont tie your shoes 13:50 < tjfontaine> how many others here drank their lunch? 13:50 -!- jkwood_ is now known as jkwood 13:50 < tjfontaine> mwalling: ! 13:50 < mwalling> tjfontaine: ! 13:50 < tjfontaine> mwalling: liquid lunch? 13:50 < mwalling> nah, liquid dinner 13:50 < HoopyCat> tjfontaine: wife got to leave work at 1200, so we actually went out for lunch! 13:51 < tjfontaine> cmon you must have christmas ales on christmas eve 13:51 < tjfontaine> HoopyCat: wooo 13:51 < HoopyCat> "Would you like a 16oz or 25oz, sir?" "25 ounces, of course." 13:51 < mwalling> wifes at work, need to be sober 13:51 < tjfontaine> as big as you've got 13:51 < mwalling> also, about to head out and pretend to be santa 13:51 < mwalling> (should be drunk for that) 13:51 < tjfontaine> clearly 13:51 < HoopyCat> i'm gonna drink two beers anyway, so i might as well get the bigger size so it's cheaper and less 13:52 * HoopyCat sits on mwal(!@&%!( 13:52 < HoopyCat> NO CARRIER 13:52 < eld101> <-- may pay 7 bucks a beer once on the plane cause he will need it 13:52 < exor674> eld101: everclear 13:52 < mwalling> exor674: expense it 13:52 -!- Seannachie [~notafraid@c-24-22-229-236.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 13:52 < HoopyCat> eld101: drink on the ground 13:53 * mwalling leaves to load up the trunk^Wsleigh 13:53 < eld101> hoopy: the bar is pretty far....and dont want to miss the flight 13:53 < eld101> exor: wana bring me some? 13:53 < exor674> eld101: I net you could WALK to the bar on the other side of the state 13:53 < exor674> and when you walk back and get back through security 13:54 < exor674> the plane still will be missing 13:54 < HoopyCat> eld101: optimist 13:55 < HoopyCat> "... with lunch available for $7.50 per person" 13:55 * HoopyCat considers a counteroffer 13:55 < eld101> yep 13:55 < tjfontaine> 5.00 and a tall beer 13:57 < eld101> umm...Id like a $5 bl 13:57 < eld101> bj 13:57 < tjfontaine> it might as well be free 13:57 < eld101> Ill take it 13:57 < jkwood> You want a bacon and lettuce from some guy named bj? 13:57 < jkwood> What about the tomato? 13:57 < tjfontaine> jkwood++ 13:58 < eld101> Ill take a bj from the hottie flight attending sitting by thr gate 13:58 < HoopyCat> eld101: you're at an airport; it'll cost at least $20 and you'll have to watch CNN HEADLINE NEWS OMG throughout 13:58 < tjfontaine> heh 13:58 < eld101> lol 13:58 < fo0bar> lolz 13:58 < mikegrb> lolz 13:58 < linbot> lolz 13:59 < eld101> no cnn around...just you guys 13:59 < HoopyCat> eld101: really? you're at an airport and you aren't having to watch CNN HEADLINE PLANES CRASHING NOW BLOWING UP BOOM BOOM ZOMG news? 13:59 < eld101> nope! 13:59 < HoopyCat> 'tis my favorite part of waiting at an airport 13:59 < HoopyCat> eld101: that means you probably missed the entire situation at SEA 13:59 < eld101> I did just realize im heading to the came city as my linode! 13:59 < eld101> saw it on cnn.comp 14:00 < eld101> the deicer in the vents right? 14:00 < tjfontaine> eld101: which city? 14:01 < eld101> ewr 14:01 < HoopyCat> eld101: yep. that was a little amusing. 14:01 < exor674> eld101: you should totally buy caker a beer while there 14:01 < eld101> will do ;) 14:03 < jkwood> Actually, buy him several beers. We're still trying to get him to dance naked at the Christmas party. 14:03 < eld101> I wonder how far the linode office is from my parents place 14:03 < HoopyCat> boy, i sure wish i had a web server upon which to host mikegrb/tasaro slashfic 14:04 < eld101> hoopy: whats that? 14:04 < jkwood> Disturbing. That's what it is. 14:05 < HoopyCat> eld101: Slash fiction is a genre of fan fiction that focuses on the depiction of romantic (and often sexual) relationships between two or more male (or less commonly, female) characters, who may not be engaged in relationships in the canon universe. 14:05 < eld101> ahhh 14:05 -!- ang [~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #linode 14:05 < straterra> cool 14:05 < b4> . 14:06 < eld101> hrmmm....what can I use my linode for to make some easy cash 14:06 -!- TerraTreble [~notafraid@c-24-22-229-236.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 14:06 < exor674> PORN 14:06 < b4> eld101, host a website that has ADS 14:06 < eld101> ive got some sites I host... 14:06 < b4> i enarly typed AIDS 14:06 < eld101> lolz 14:06 < exor674> haha 14:07 -!- Seannachie [~notafraid@c-24-22-229-236.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15 -!- doug73 [~doug@69.12.226.40] has joined #linode 14:23 -!- jtaji [~jtaji@c-68-39-80-157.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:27 < tasaro> eld101: where are you headed? 14:29 -!- njones_ [~njones@nat-pool-bne.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:29 < eld101> central jerzee 14:29 < eld101> east windsor specifically 14:29 < tjfontaine> on purpose? 14:29 < eld101> parents live there 14:29 < tjfontaine> on purpose? 14:29 < eld101> hah 14:30 < tjfontaine> ok, I need some help picking out two last minute gifts 14:30 < tjfontaine> 1 for my brother, and 1 $10 'guy gift' for the gift exchange 14:30 < eld101> gift cards!!!!!!! 14:30 < tjfontaine> that's my fall back in case of emergency 14:31 < HoopyCat> tjfontaine: a steak 14:31 < eld101> I really need a drink 14:31 < jkwood> tjfontaine: Get the linode guys to sign a picture and send it to you. 14:31 < tjfontaine> heh 14:31 < eld101> lolz 14:32 < eld101> O M G 14:32 < eld101> someone e-kill me 14:32 < tjfontaine> I can akill you 14:32 < `James> =o 14:33 < HoopyCat> eld101: flight delayed another 15 minutes? 14:33 < eld101> -yes- 14:33 < tjfontaine> what's yor starting location? 14:33 < tjfontaine> `James: hi, yes I can akill him 14:33 < eld101> columbus oh 14:33 < tjfontaine> eld101: come north to CAK I'll buy you a drink 14:33 < eld101> where at 14:33 < jkwood> WITH HIS BRAIN 14:33 < HoopyCat> eld101: you've asked them if boarding announcements can be heard at the nearest cold beer distribution point, right? :-) 14:34 < tjfontaine> CAK, Canton/Akron Airport 14:34 < eld101> hoopy: already did :( 14:34 < exor674> this is why we need medicinal hip flasks :P 14:34 < tjfontaine> I can send you to some college girls houses if you would like 14:34 < eld101> !!!!!!!!! 14:35 < HoopyCat> eld101: you know, $20 might go a long ways towards having them hit the page-all button 14:35 < tjfontaine> there will be boarding announcments there, but probably not for new jersey 14:35 < eld101> hoopy: not a bad idea 14:35 -!- Yaakov [yaakov@kovaya.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:36 -!- xitology [~xi@78.31.182.24] has joined #linode 14:36 < eld101> the weather blows here....and is only getting worse 14:36 < tjfontaine> wait 5 mins it'll change 14:36 < eld101> ive got the CMH tower feed coming out my speakers 14:36 < b4> wtf 14:36 < jkwood> I thought that was Missouri. 14:37 < b4> why does my internet die when i stream video... 14:37 < tjfontaine> jkwood: it's all the midwest 14:37 < eld101> talk of windsheer and a flight with landing gear problems 14:37 < b4> archive.org jhates me 14:37 < jkwood> I don't generally think of anything east of Illinois as being "the midwest"... but okay. 14:37 < jkwood> b4: How long have you had your website? 14:37 < tjfontaine> jkwood: we get that a lot here 14:37 < jkwood> archive.org has a six month delay, iirc. 14:37 < tjfontaine> jkwood: which is why we have the bullshit 'greatlakes' region 14:38 < b4> jkwood, idk, it's been up and steup for a week or two, i added content 3 days ago 14:38 < jkwood> Ah, gotcha. 14:38 -!- fearoffish [~fearoffis@host81-141-125-99.wlms-broadband.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38 < b4> jkwood, archive.rog for vidoe streaming 14:38 < b4> it hates me 14:38 < b4> for streaming video 14:38 < eld101> haha....now they took down the delayed time and left it blank 14:38 < eld101> G R E A T 14:38 < b4> whenever i stream video form it, I get a new IP 14:39 < tjfontaine> eld101: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Columbus,+Ohio&daddr=Akron+Canton+Regional&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=40.302571,-82.361755&sspn=1.290298,2.911377&ie=UTF8&ll=40.505446,-82.22168&spn=1.286415,2.911377&t=h&z=9 14:39 < tjfontaine> eld101: I'll buy you a drink when you get there 14:40 < eld101> well ive got time to get there for that drink and make it back...im sure 14:40 < eld101> see ya soon! 14:40 < tjfontaine> heh 14:40 < HoopyCat> godspeed! 14:40 < tjfontaine> honestly though if you leave the airport find high street downtown, you'll find tons of drunk coeds 14:40 < b4> ISP failure. 14:41 < eld101> I know where there at....I went to OSU :) 14:41 < tjfontaine> you poor bastard 14:41 < tjfontaine> I mean congrats 14:41 < eld101> lol 14:41 < fo0bar> lolz 14:41 < mikegrb> lolz 14:41 < linbot> lolz 14:41 < eld101> what ever 14:41 * tjfontaine umich fan 14:42 < b4> stupdi AT&T :( 14:42 < b4> it had been fine for 5 years D: 14:42 < tjfontaine> I'll give you my exs number, she's a super whore I'm sure she can take care of you while you're done there 14:42 < eld101> im suprized cbus still has free internet... 14:42 -!- Yaakov [yaakov@kovaya.com] has joined #linode 14:42 < eld101> its speedy too.... clocked 8mbit! 14:43 < tjfontaine> cbus is an all around good place, except for that university 14:43 < jkwood> tjfontaine: Not bitter at all, I see. 14:43 < tjfontaine> jkwood: clearly 14:44 < tjfontaine> jkwood: anytime you have to here *THE* Ohio State Buckeyes, or O H ... I O non stop it gets to be a problem 14:44 < eld101> Im going to get some beer 14:44 < eld101> later fellaw 14:44 -!- eld101 [~eld101@cathode.eld101.com] has quit [Quit: eld101] 14:44 < tjfontaine> jkwood: or did you mean about the ex 14:44 < jkwood> I was talking about the ex, but whatever floats your goat man. 14:45 < tjfontaine> nah I'm not bitter, but she gets around ;) 14:45 < SelfishMan> damn exes 14:45 < tjfontaine> favorite signs in cbus have this on it http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Columbus,+Ohio&daddr=Akron+Canton+Regional&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=40.302571,-82.361755&sspn=1.290298,2.911377&ie=UTF8&ll=39.961119,-82.987686&spn=0.000633,0.001422&t=h&z=20 14:46 * jkwood hands tjfontaine urlx.eu 14:47 * HoopyCat is glad tjfontaine didn't paste something like http://trianglesigns.org/pictures/johnstonco/no_hazard.jpg 14:47 < tjfontaine> we really have few hazard roads, at least in my area 14:48 -!- njones [~njones@nat-pool-bne.redhat.com] has joined #linode 14:49 < HoopyCat> it really kinda freaked me out my first few times through cleveland, until i realized "HC" was "Hazardous Cargo" 14:49 < tjfontaine> :) 14:49 < tjfontaine> what did you think it meant, no HoopyCats allowed? 14:49 < HoopyCat> yes 14:50 < tjfontaine> I had a hard time groking "Bridge Ices Before Road" signs in north carolina 14:50 < HoopyCat> i'm like "fuuuuuuurk, first time in ohio and i'm already banned" 14:50 < exor674> where does one get catfish at 1pm on the 24th 14:50 < tjfontaine> I had been driving 10 hours like that 14:50 < tjfontaine> exor674: water 14:50 < HoopyCat> exor674: live, dead, deep fried...? 14:51 < exor674> deep fried 14:51 < Syn-> lol 14:51 < mikegrb> lolz 14:51 < fo0bar> lolz 14:51 < linbot> lolz 14:51 < HoopyCat> wegmans will probably have dead catfish, and they'll probably sell it to you for a good price because of the impending holiday 14:53 < HoopyCat> But... Robert -- mind if I call you Bob? -- Bob, I'm looking at this meat and it says, right there, "use or freeze before December 26." And I couldn't help but notice that sign on the way in saying you're closing at 6pm today and won't be open until 7am on the 26th... 14:53 < tjfontaine> hey, ok back to the important question, what do I get my brother for christmas 14:53 < HoopyCat> tjfontaine: meat 14:54 < tjfontaine> hmm he did get me salmon jerkey one christmas 14:54 < tjfontaine> -e 14:55 < jkwood> Meat is always a good plan. 14:55 < jkwood> Especially dried meat. 14:55 < tjfontaine> what about a dead hooker, does that count as meat? 14:55 < HoopyCat> Using fat to fuel cars might be environmentally friendly, but it's definitely illegal in California to use human medical waste to power vehicles, and Bittner is being investigated by the state's public health department. 14:58 < tjfontaine> what could go wrong http://www.amazon.com/Black-Watt-Cruzin-Cooler-Scooter/dp/B001CK63RG/ref=pd_sbs_sg_1 14:58 < HoopyCat> tjfontaine: only $1 per watt! cheaper than solar 14:59 -!- zerojinx [~rmp@host217-37-217-64.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #linode 14:59 < jkwood> tjfontaine: I must have one. 15:00 * HoopyCat orders a fresh set of SKYWARN and ARES stickers, prices a HF whip, and rummages around for a light bar 15:00 < HoopyCat> hamsexy, here i come 15:02 * jkwood prepares to hack HoopyCat's webcam 15:02 < tjfontaine> hc.nsa.gov 15:02 < tjfontaine> done and done 15:10 < HoopyCat> hmm, what happens when we exhaust the tinyurl.com namespace? 15:10 < SelfishMan> HoopyCat: They switch to longurl.com 15:11 < jkwood> urlx.eu 15:11 < HoopyCat> longurl is long 15:11 < jkwood> slaxer.com/callmeshorty/ 15:11 < jkwood> (Which doesn't yet exist, thanks much.) 15:11 < HoopyCat> No match for domain "ONLINEINTERNETURLSHORTENINGSERVICE.COM". 15:12 < HoopyCat> todolist.append(buf) 15:13 -!- mendel [flatcat@76-10-159-31.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #linode 15:14 < HoopyCat> The URL http://www.google.com/ has a length of 22 characters, and has been successfully reduced to http://www.onlineinterneturlshorteningservice.com/f169dc904d3c6d9a423f25d6f7358989 saving -60 bytes! 15:14 < HoopyCat> this site's gonna be popular. might need a 720. 15:16 < exor674> we totally need to get a turl TLD <_< 15:16 < mwalling> HoopyCat: is that thing real? 15:16 < HoopyCat> mwalling: not yet 15:16 < mwalling> no, not that 15:16 < mwalling> http://tinyurl.com/9qvzsg 15:17 < mwalling> that 15:17 -!- HedgeMage [~HedgeMage@c-67-175-41-252.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17 < HoopyCat> mwalling: ask tjfontaine, he pasted it at 14:58 15:17 < exor674> tinyurl should just start recycling old oes :P 15:17 -!- HedgeMage [~HedgeMage@c-67-175-41-252.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #linode 15:17 < mwalling> exor674: no? 15:17 < SelfishMan> Tinyurl collission problem? 15:17 < exor674> they never claimed them to be permalinks 15:18 < HoopyCat> exor674: "Oh hey, here's an e-mail my granddaughter sent me back in 2003! Oh, a link to their school play. Let's click on it and... OH MY GOD" 15:18 < exor674> oh there it is 15:18 < HoopyCat> mwalling: the device seems to be physically possible within the constraints of our current technology 15:18 < exor674> they just didn't call it a permalink haha 15:19 < mwalling> also, regarding dreamhost is better then linode guy: "forgot to disable the firewall rules on the lug server before i shut it all down...going to be another 30-45 before it's done loading them" 15:19 < HoopyCat> exor674: the bold italics on "will not break in email postings and never expires" mean it's opposite day 15:19 < exor674> lol, I wasn't reading the page and just searched for "perma" 15:19 < fo0bar> lolz 15:19 < mikegrb> lolz 15:19 < linbot> lolz 15:19 < mwalling> if it takes 30 minutes to run iptables, i think you're doing it wrong 15:19 < HoopyCat> mwalling: but he has to block traffic from china due to the spammers 15:20 < mwalling> thats what he does. 15:20 < HoopyCat> mwalling: one IP at a time 15:20 < mwalling> if its not american, he blocks it 15:20 -!- ondrej [~ondra@185-183.ktct.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:20 < exor674> his loadiptables.sh script is probably 15:20 < HoopyCat> thanks, i just swallowed my tongue laughing 15:20 < SelfishMan> Where is that post at? 15:20 < exor674> iptables blahblah crappy rule here 15:20 < exor674> sleep 1 15:20 < mwalling> SelfishMan: he just said it in my lug channel 15:20 < mwalling> exor674: no sleeps. 15:21 < SelfishMan> Wow, that's special 15:21 < mwalling> he also says lifehacker is the bible... 15:21 < SelfishMan> The funny thing is that there are better ways than individual iptables rules 15:21 < mwalling> no crap... afaik, the kernel has to enumerate all the rules until it gets to an action for that packet 15:22 < mwalling> (which is why you accept established and related packets at the top) 15:22 * mwalling waits for someone to correct him 15:22 * mwalling is certain he is wrong 15:22 * mwalling cracked open the bottle of abolut 15:22 < SelfishMan> You can use iptables to pass incoming traffic to a script that compares against a list 15:22 < mwalling> you can? 15:22 < SelfishMan> yep 15:23 < exor674> I think he should just deny evil.china.spammer.dude/1 y/y? 15:23 < mwalling> linky! 15:23 < HoopyCat> we have a bottle of vodak in the freezer, although it's... more culinary 15:23 < SelfishMan> one of the honeypots I used to use does that 15:23 * mwalling uses ipt_recent lists 15:23 < SelfishMan> I can't remember it though 15:25 < HoopyCat> man, if it weren't for the 80's channel, i'd have no idea there's a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Bonnie_Tyler 15:26 < SelfishMan> mwalling: http://honeytrap.mwcollect.org/details-Honeytrap%20Details 15:26 < mwalling> when someone triggers "defensive measures", their ip gets added to /proc/net/ipt_recent/NEWBADGUYS. (that list is used earlier to block packets). a cronjob polls that list, pops off new entries, looks at past behavior from that ip/netblock, sets an expire time for them in a database, then adds them to a different list. 15:27 < SelfishMan> It uses a netfilter_queue interface to have traffic piped to it 15:27 -!- Sputnik7 [~Sputnik7@c-71-192-5-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28 < mwalling> i use maxmind to look at that list and see if the ip is listed as being from this area, and if it is, it gets a much shorter lockout time (so i dont lock my self out from a different computer) 15:29 < HoopyCat> i use zonealarm.sh 15:29 -!- tiramaua [~tiramaua@ppp-94-68-174-170.home.otenet.gr] has joined #linode 15:32 -!- dactor [~something@91.140.132.19] has joined #linode 15:34 -!- cooldude [~cooldude@xtreme-57-41.dyn.aci.on.ca] has joined #linode 15:37 -!- Sputnik7 [~Sputnik7@c-71-192-5-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #linode 15:39 -!- loxs [~loxs@213.91.162.124] has joined #linode 15:41 -!- chopp_ [~chopp@li41-134.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:42 -!- cooldude [~cooldude@xtreme-57-41.dyn.aci.on.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:43 < mwalling> chopp: i'll have one eventually... gotta clean up /home/ a bit first 15:46 < mwalling> chopp: and by eventually i clearly mean a couple hours 15:55 -!- cooldude [~cooldude@xtreme-57-41.dyn.aci.on.ca] has joined #linode 15:55 < mwalling> chopp: and by a couple hours, i mean its done 15:55 < dactor> Hello, anyone has a link to step by step remove blocked ip from denyhosts :) 15:57 -!- dmadole [~David_Mad@d-208-103-64-64.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:57 < SpaceHobo> !summer 15:57 < linbot> http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk 15:57 < SpaceHobo> ^-- dactor 15:59 < HoopyCat> dactor: it writes stuff to /etc/hosts.deny (which is where sshd, et al, read from), and it has a data directory specified by the WORK_DIR setting in denyhosts.cfg 16:00 < dactor> HoopyCat thanks...where can i find my WORK_DIR.....this is what i am trying to find..... 16:00 < linbot> New news from forums: upgrade from Slackware-12.0 to Slackware 12.1 in Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials 16:01 * jkwood pets linbot 16:01 * jkwood pets mwalling too 16:02 < HoopyCat> dactor: /etc/denyhosts/denyhosts.cfg or /etc/denyhosts.cfg (likely locations, depending on distro) will have WORK_DIR set somewhere in it 16:02 < dactor> HoopyCat thanks alot.... 16:02 < dactor> HoopyCat will try it now 16:02 < HoopyCat> on mine, it's /usr/share/denyhosts/data , but not everyone keeps their data directories in the same place :-) 16:03 < SpaceHobo> dactor: but be sure to read up on http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk while you're at it 16:03 < dactor> SpaceHobo i already did ;) 16:03 < HoopyCat> SpaceHobo: i highly recommend a date 16:06 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@rrcs-71-42-141-48.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #linode 16:06 < SpaceHobo> HoopyCat: I am enjoying 24 December 2008 right now 16:07 -!- RossH_ [ross@peering.us] has joined #linode 16:08 * HoopyCat tests trivia-fu 16:11 < HoopyCat> question posted at 21:05:30, answer sent at 21:06:08, and i was #4. dang. 16:13 -!- loxs [~loxs@213.91.162.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:15 -!- fearoffish [~fearoffis@host81-141-125-99.wlms-broadband.com] has joined #linode 16:17 -!- meff [~meff@mirror.looking-glass.spherevision.org] has left #linode [] 16:18 -!- Sputnik7 [~Sputnik7@c-71-192-5-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18 -!- meff [~meff@mirror.looking-glass.spherevision.org] has joined #linode 16:22 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@rrcs-71-42-141-48.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:28 -!- tiramaua [~tiramaua@ppp-94-68-174-170.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Quit: quit] 16:28 < mwalling> mikegrb: way too much time on your hands :P 16:31 -!- cooldude [~cooldude@xtreme-57-41.dyn.aci.on.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46 -!- silverblade [~silverbla@cust116-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net] has quit [Quit: This isn't a quit message! This is Spartaaaaaaaaaaaaa!] 17:05 -!- Sputnik7 [~Sputnik7@c-71-192-5-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #linode 17:08 -!- dactor [~something@91.140.132.19] has quit [] 17:10 -!- xitology [~xi@78.31.182.24] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:15 -!- atula [~neobreed@c-24-218-58-155.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #linode 17:15 < HoopyCat> sources indicate that eld101's flight arrived in newark 35 minutes ago, after a modest 4.5 hour delay 17:18 < atula> I should reinforce enemy? 17:18 < atula> :D 17:18 < res0> coming from logan, columbus, or o'hare? 17:19 < HoopyCat> res0: columbus 17:19 -!- DuroSoft [~45780b79@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 17:19 < res0> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BTA2889 17:19 < DuroSoft> rpg's are allowed, right? 17:19 < HoopyCat> his luggage will be landing at houston in about 75 minutes 17:20 < HoopyCat> DuroSoft: rocket-propelled grenades? 17:20 < DuroSoft> no those stupid role playing games 17:20 -!- mheld [~speek@pool-151-203-93-103.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #linode 17:20 < DuroSoft> a lot of vps providers .... HOST GATOR... wont allow them because they generally take up a lot of resources 17:20 < Peng_> If your grenades are legal, and you don't harm your host, it should be fine. 17:20 < DuroSoft> lol 17:20 < fo0bar> lolz 17:20 < mikegrb> lolz 17:20 < linbot> lolz 17:20 < mheld> hey 17:21 < HoopyCat> DuroSoft: oh! the TOS will clarify and should be read before signing up, but yes. 17:21 < mheld> does anybody here use arch on their vps? 17:22 < DuroSoft> k thanks 17:22 < jkwood> Ah, yes, Arch Linux. The deceptive one. 17:22 -!- DuroSoft [~45780b79@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:22 < Peng_> Deceptive? 17:22 < HoopyCat> ze forbidden dance! 17:23 -!- chopp [~chopp@li41-134.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:23 < res0> arch just means "foremost" 17:23 -!- agentbleubleu [~agentbleu@lns-bzn-28-82-250-154-92.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: agentbleubleu] 17:23 < jkwood> Peng_: "I have an idea. KDE 4.1.2 isn't out yet, but it could possibly be within the next two weeks, so we're going to take an SVN snapshot and call that KDE 4.1.2." 17:23 < Peng_> Heh, nice. 17:23 < HoopyCat> it's like superslackware 17:24 < mheld> jkwood: what have you done for the coreutils issue? 17:24 < jkwood> There's a coreutils issue? 17:24 < mheld> yeah 17:24 < mheld> what happens when you start or stop a server? 17:24 < jkwood> Mainly, I've just stuck with Slackware and/or Slamd64. ;) 17:24 < mikegrb> ! people still use slackware?!?! 17:24 < jkwood> I don't run Arch, sorry. 17:24 < HoopyCat> mheld: weird errors using touch, etc? pick the 2.6.27.4-linode14 kernel, that should fix it 17:24 < mheld> oh, sorry... I misread that 17:25 < mheld> HoopyCat: yeah 17:25 < mheld> HoopyCat: I'll try that, thanks 17:25 < jkwood> A google of "arch coreutils issue" does bring up about 145,000 pages though. 17:25 < HoopyCat> mheld: i don't run arch either, but it's worked for other folks :-) 17:25 -!- zerojinx [~rmp@host217-37-217-64.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Quit: zerojinx] 17:26 < mheld> jkwood: its not arch itself that's being iffy, its some weird kernel stuff 17:26 < jkwood> Ah, I see. 17:28 < HoopyCat> http://www.92y.org/shop/event_detail.asp?productid=T-MM5FD16 ... man, if the wife didn't have to work on friday... 17:28 < FFEMTcJ> uggh 17:28 < mheld> yes, beautiful 17:28 < mheld> thank you HoopyCat 17:28 < HoopyCat> mheld: wooot. np. 17:30 -!- jcn [~jcn@207-237-244-88.c3-0.nyw-ubr2.nyr-nyw.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.6 -- Are we there yet?] 17:30 * FFEMTcJ kicks his stupid server 17:31 < jkwood> HoopyCat: That is just glorious. 17:31 * Solver parsed that as "licks" at first :) 17:31 < FFEMTcJ> heh 17:33 -!- Twayne [~waynemilt@cpe-075-177-147-022.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 17:33 < HoopyCat> jkwood: there's a nontrivial jewish community in rochester, so we do get the traditional chinese food, but the monty python hasn't made it here yet 17:34 < Twayne> Can't get to my site? 17:34 < Twayne> http://wtfurls.com/ 17:34 < HoopyCat> Twayne: you're pingable 17:35 -!- alnr2 [~fIRCuser@m135e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #linode 17:35 < Twayne> I'm also able to ssh, but it's not pulling up.. is it for you? 17:35 < SpaceHobo> !summer 17:35 < linbot> http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk 17:35 < SpaceHobo> try that 17:36 < FFEMTcJ> not pullin up here either 17:36 < HoopyCat> Twayne: your web server answers, but doesn't reply; a likely problem with your underlying web framework, to which a restart i'd probably apply 17:36 < Twayne> K, i'll reboot now.. What makes that happen? 17:36 < HoopyCat> Twayne: are you using fcgi/scgi/etc to talk between your web server and your application? 17:36 < HoopyCat> if so, just restarting your application might do it. no need to reboot, most likely. 17:37 < Twayne> no 17:38 < jkwood> Twayne: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wtfurls.com 17:38 < HoopyCat> (that said, a reboot will probably either fix it (85% chance) or make it much, much worse (15% chance)) 17:38 -!- alnr2 [~fIRCuser@m135e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [] 17:38 < HoopyCat> oh, indeed, works fine now 17:38 < Twayne> It works now 17:38 < HoopyCat> thanks, jkwood 17:38 < Twayne> I rebooted 17:39 < Twayne> Thanks though 17:39 < jkwood> Temporary routing issue, I'd bet. 17:39 < jkwood> Mebbe. 17:39 < Twayne> So what causes that to happen, It's the first time i've seen that happen and i've been running for 2 months now. 17:39 < HoopyCat> jkwood: naw, 80 was responding fine, just... nothin' home 17:39 < Twayne> Is that something I did wrong? 17:40 < jkwood> Unresolved sin in your life? 17:40 < HoopyCat> Twayne: probably a bug somewhere with something 17:40 < Twayne> Apache? 17:40 < Twayne> bug? 17:40 < HoopyCat> Twayne: apache wouldn't be my first guess 17:41 < Twayne> ic 17:41 < HoopyCat> most likely whatever's generating the site content, if it's dynamic 17:41 < Twayne> Oh well, thanks for the suggestion, it worked out fine :) 17:42 < Twayne> back up and running, I doubt it'll happen again anytime soon anyway 17:42 < HoopyCat> you aren't even running apache, anyway :-) 17:42 < Twayne> I know 17:43 < Twayne> I mean I am, but that's only on my blog here http://wtfurls.com/daily/ 17:43 < Twayne> Other wise it's just proxy pass 17:43 < HoopyCat> Twayne: ooh, kinky 17:43 < Twayne> yes 17:43 < Twayne> :P 17:43 < HoopyCat> Twayne: was that hosed when wtfurls.com/ was hosed? 17:44 < Twayne> i didn't even check, i should of 17:44 < HoopyCat> Twayne: nod... if it happens again, check that. if it's broken too, it's probably the proxy; if not, it's probably the main page application 17:44 < Twayne> gotcha 17:45 < Twayne> wanna see something else kinky.. http://viralnerd.com/ 17:45 < Twayne> that's actually http://wtfurls.com 17:45 < Twayne> :P 17:45 < HoopyCat> Twayne: son of a bitch, someone ripped you off 17:45 < Twayne> but with differnt content on same application 17:45 * HoopyCat ddoses viralnerd.com 17:45 < Twayne> NOOOOOOOOOOOOo 17:45 < Twayne> that's mine too 17:45 < Twayne> :) 17:46 < Twayne> I own viralnerd 17:46 < HoopyCat> ... oh 17:46 < Twayne> but it's running off of wtfurls.com 17:46 < HoopyCat> err, don't open any packages tomorrow, just to, uhh, be on the safe side... 17:46 < Twayne> I've got it cnamed over, and the platform allows me to customize it 17:47 < Twayne> lol 17:47 < fo0bar> lolz 17:47 < mikegrb> lolz 17:47 < linbot> lolz 17:48 < HoopyCat> Twayne: vis a vis the sink in a drawer: the toilet/sink combos in amtrak east-coast sleeping cars are pretty crazy 17:48 -!- ph^ [~ph^@62.80-203-249.nextgentel.com] has joined #linode 17:48 < Twayne> yeah 17:49 < Twayne> HoopyCat: What's good on the net today... I wanna lolz 17:50 < HoopyCat> Twayne: @skydiver on twitter is giving away prizes to people who are having to work today (and friday) 17:51 < Twayne> Oh really 17:51 < Twayne> ha 17:51 < Twayne> I'll have to check that out 17:51 < HoopyCat> there's going to be condiments, gift bags, lotion, vodka... 17:52 < Twayne> HoopyCat: have you seen this today, it's pretty funny: http://i40.tinypic.com/xkneae.jpg "Microsoft copied the name for Xbox 360... from Sony." 17:52 < Twayne> intresting 17:52 < HoopyCat> Twayne: yep 17:52 < HoopyCat> Twayne: you catch the guy on the drum keyboard, as well as the 1973 prog rock yodeling guy in the comments? 17:53 < Twayne> no 17:53 < Twayne> lol 17:53 < fo0bar> lolz 17:53 < mikegrb> lolz 17:53 < linbot> lolz 17:53 < Twayne> where's that? 17:54 < HoopyCat> Twayne: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpV5InLw52U 17:55 < HoopyCat> and before you ask, that's not oprah introducing them; it's gladys knight 17:56 < Twayne> I was just about to ask that :P 17:56 < HoopyCat> Twayne: and, of course, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxmi3VDkYkM , which you've seen already 17:56 -!- Bass10 [~fake@c-76-113-194-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:57 < Twayne> HoopyCat: Before I click that i bet i know what it is :) 17:57 < Twayne> does it have lil john in it :P 17:57 < HoopyCat> Twayne: no, unless i copypasta'd the wrong URL 17:57 < Twayne> oh, maybe not 17:58 < HoopyCat> sure, it's a piece of cake to make a copy paste, but sometimes the way is hazy. 17:58 < mikegrb> mmm cake 17:58 -!- lakin [~lakin@S01060013101832cd.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #linode 17:58 < Twayne> HoopyCat: the yodeling guy is crazy 17:59 < HoopyCat> Twayne: he's definitely got some strange facial expressions at times. 18:01 < Twayne> HoopCat: I'm about to run, but here's a good 30 mins of entertainment.. It gets challenging http://www.kongregate.com/games/Ninjakiwi/meeblings 18:02 < Twayne> HoopyCat: Hope you have a good evening, Cheers ;) 18:02 < HoopyCat> Twayne: i'll give it a spin while the oven does its thing tomorrow :-) g'nite, and merry christmas! 18:03 < Twayne> HoopyCat: Merry Christmas to you too! Later :) 18:06 < HoopyCat> wait, lynyrd skynyrd got back together and are still touring, even though almost the entire band died in a 1977 plane crash? 18:10 < heidi> HoopyCat: The band reformed in 1987 for a reunion tour with Johnny Van Zant, Ronnie's younger brother, at the helm, and continues to record music today. The band was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on March 13, 2006. 18:11 < heidi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynyrd_Skynyrd 18:11 < HoopyCat> heidi: it's amazing how much i'm learning this week. 18:11 < Yaakov> HoopyCat: They are zombies. Duh. 18:13 -!- ahs3- [~alvin@adsl-065-005-193-158.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14 < HoopyCat> but they can't be zombies, they're not defunct! 18:21 < Yaakov> That's what they want you to think! 18:21 -!- chopp [~chopp@li41-134.members.linode.com] has joined #linode 18:23 -!- ph^ [~ph^@62.80-203-249.nextgentel.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25 -!- Bdragon [~Bdragon@dpc6746139138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25 -!- loxs [~loxs@213.91.162.124] has joined #linode 18:27 -!- Bdragon [~Bdragon@dpc6746139138.direcpc.com] has joined #linode 18:28 -!- chopp [~chopp@li41-134.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:36 -!- loxs [~loxs@213.91.162.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:44 -!- loxs [~loxs@213.91.162.124] has joined #linode 18:44 -!- Bdragon [~Bdragon@dpc6746139138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47 -!- Bdragon [~Bdragon@dpc6746139138.direcpc.com] has joined #linode 18:48 < mheld> alright, i've got a loaded question for y'all 18:48 < mheld> Mysql or Postgresql 18:48 < mheld> ? 18:49 < FFEMTcJ> mysql 18:49 < mheld> even on processors with multiple cores? 18:49 < FFEMTcJ> thats what i use 18:49 -!- dsoto [~Darryl@71.5.17.90.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #linode 18:50 < HedgeMage> mheld: Postgre offers better performance for many things, but is supported by fewer apps because fewer hosts offer it. MySQL is more universally available, leading to it being more universally supported -- for many things it can do just as well as Postgre, but where it doesn't, you wish you had postgre support. 18:50 -!- Bdragon [~Bdragon@dpc6746139138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:50 < mheld> I could go either way 18:50 < mheld> but, i've heard that postgres has better multiproc/core support 18:50 < mikegrb> mheld: it was difficult but I managed to find the 10 seconds it took to make that 18:51 < guinea-pig> mikegrb: finish your sentence? 18:51 < mikegrb> s/mheld/mwalling/ 18:51 < mheld> ah 18:52 < mwalling> meh 18:52 * mwalling goes to church with a hypocritical eyeroll 18:52 < mikegrb> you must have lots of free time to manage that 18:52 -!- r3z` [~r3z@c-68-57-224-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #linode 18:52 -!- r3z [~r3z@c-68-57-224-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53 -!- RossH_ [ross@peering.us] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:54 -!- Yaakov [yaakov@kovaya.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:54 -!- jtaji [~jtaji@c-68-39-80-157.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 18:55 < HoopyCat> "ok because i wanna make this 600mm in diameter. only problem, im 12 and dont have a lathe" 18:55 < HoopyCat> <3 instructables comments 18:56 < mikegrb> har 18:57 < mikegrb> HoopyCat: the led lamp one? 18:57 -!- liberfiasco [~libervisc@93-138-46-217.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57 < HoopyCat> mikegrb: yep 18:57 < mikegrb> caker likes woodworking 18:57 < mikegrb> I told him he has to get a lathe so he can make the wood form for me 18:57 < HoopyCat> that's what linbot said 18:58 < HoopyCat> i'm a big fan of the multidisciplinary projects 18:58 < guinea-pig> mmm instructables 19:01 -!- fearoffish [~fearoffis@host81-141-125-99.wlms-broadband.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01 -!- Yaakov [yaakov@kovaya.com] has joined #linode 19:02 -!- RichGuk [~RichGuk@212.159.53.169] has quit [Quit: RichGuk] 19:04 < HoopyCat> Pro Tip: Never google search .Santa. and .handcuffs.. Do not take Rule #34 lightly. 19:08 * BP{k} googles 19:10 < Yaakov> HoopyCat: Go to a party of something. 19:10 < Yaakov> s/of/or/ 19:12 -!- liberfiasco [~libervisc@78-1-143-229.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #linode 19:16 -!- Jeremy [jeremy@stormy.dwncrk.bc.ssnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17 -!- Nevyn [~nevyn@76.210.33.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:19 < `James> whats the tar for tar.bz2 19:20 < `James> to unzip 19:20 < HoopyCat> i'm pretty sure -z will undo .bz2 as well 19:20 < Eman> tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 afaik 19:20 < bob2> -j 19:20 < bob2> -I on absurdly old versions of tar 19:21 < `James> thnx 19:21 < HoopyCat> well dang, i forgot something new. 19:21 < MotoHoss> 17MB @45K will take about how long? 19:21 < Eman> an app at work likes to make .tar.zip files 19:21 < Eman> i cried 19:21 < bob2> 17 * 1024 / 45 19:22 < mheld> time worth spending to get highspeed internet access 19:22 < HoopyCat> MotoHoss: 3 kiloseconds? 19:22 < MotoHoss> i agree.. it's the clients fault... 19:22 -!- Nevyn [~nevyn@76.210.33.190] has joined #linode 19:23 -!- Yaakov [yaakov@kovaya.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23 -!- loxs [~loxs@213.91.162.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:24 -!- liberfiasco [~libervisc@78-1-143-229.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24 < MotoHoss> HoopyCat: tx! 19:25 -!- Pyromancer [~pyromance@c-24-63-3-79.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:27 < HoopyCat> MotoHoss: if it makes you feel worse, i can give that to you in scientific notation 19:28 < MotoHoss> np 19:31 -!- Yaakov [yaakov@kovaya.com] has joined #linode 19:33 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 19:34 -!- lakin [~lakin@S01060013101832cd.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:39 -!- Jeremy [jeremy@stormy.dwncrk.bc.ssnet.ca] has joined #linode 19:39 -!- liberfiasco [~libervisc@78-1-143-229.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #linode 19:40 -!- Pyromancer [~pyromance@c-24-63-3-79.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #linode 19:42 < tjfontaine> mwalling: yes that place is real 19:45 -!- hpj [~hpj@30.79-160-149.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46 -!- Sephiroth_ [sephiroth@78.32.118.87] has joined #linode 19:49 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53 -!- Sephiroth [sephiroth@78.32.118.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00 -!- tetsuclea [~tetsuclea@241.3.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 20:00 -!- tetsuclea [~tetsuclea@241.3.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com] has left #linode [] 20:02 < `James> Can't execute 'libgnutls-config --cflags'. - no idea. 20:04 < HoopyCat> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7799205.stm ... those seals look so sad and cold :-( 20:05 -!- Huru [~huru@202-0-56-193.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #linode 20:05 < jkwood> That's England for you. 20:07 < `James> God bless England. 20:09 < HoopyCat> jkwood: http://flickr.com/photos/polandeze/463290695/sizes/l/ ... for pennies a day, you can help provide injured, orphaned seals with the blankets and duvets they so urgently need. 20:09 < jkwood> For pennies a day, I'd be ready to pay my rent. 20:11 -!- cooldude [~cooldude@xtreme-57-41.dyn.aci.on.ca] has joined #linode 20:15 < dvgrhl> hey, what download speeds do you guys get from your Linodes? 20:17 < `James> Anyone know why i'm getting: Can't execute 'libgnutls-config --cflags'. 20:17 < HoopyCat> dvgrhl: haven't checked lately. lemme try... 20:17 < HoopyCat> `James: what distro? 20:17 < `James> heres the thing i have no idea because its not mine 20:17 < `James> :P 20:18 < dvgrhl> haha 20:18 -!- railsninja [~railsninj@58.170.15.20] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:18 < `James> gotta love me :> 20:18 < HoopyCat> `James: http://searchirc.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=7521 looks hopeful 20:19 < dvgrhl> http://techtrouts.com/how-to-check-linux-distro-on-a-command-line/ 20:19 < `James> my god thats what im doing HoopyCat =p 20:19 < HoopyCat> `James: santa google knows if you've been bad or good 20:19 -!- cooldude [~cooldude@xtreme-57-41.dyn.aci.on.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20 < `James> xD 20:20 < `James> Ooo its christmas 20:21 < dvgrhl> HoopyCat: I asked about the download because I am only getting ~200-300 KB/s from my Linode 20:21 < HoopyCat> dvgrhl: 864KB/sec from dallas to my home 20:21 < dvgrhl> I'm at Dallas too 20:21 < dvgrhl> ok 20:21 < dvgrhl> what you got is what I was expecting to get 20:22 < HoopyCat> that's about 6.75mb/sec, so i believe the limiting factor to be my internal crapthernet 20:22 < dvgrhl> at least I know it's possible, so I have to just figure out where the issue is 20:22 -!- meff [~meff@mirror.looking-glass.spherevision.org] has left #linode [] 20:22 < dvgrhl> yeah, I have a really fast connection, so the limit for me is way above what I am getting 20:23 < dvgrhl> could be issues on my Linode, or maybe something on the route from there to me 20:24 < HoopyCat> a test between my two linodes (dallas->atlanta) gives 3.71MB/sec, which is about 29.68mb/sec, which is ludicrous speed 20:24 < dvgrhl> yeah, between Linode speed I bet is fast 20:24 < HoopyCat> dvgrhl: on your home box, wget -O /dev/null http://www.hoopycat.com/~rtucker/tmp/100mb 20:25 < HoopyCat> your other home 20:25 < dvgrhl> got just above 4mbps 20:26 < HoopyCat> you did that from your linode, didn't you? 20:26 -!- meff [~meff@mirror.looking-glass.spherevision.org] has joined #linode 20:27 < dvgrhl> yeah 20:27 < dvgrhl> sorry 20:27 < dvgrhl> thoguht that's what you meant 20:28 < HoopyCat> if so, it's probably 4 megaBYTES per second; internet connections are measured in megaBITS per second, which make the numbers bigger. so always keep the capitalization straight on the units, or you'll go nuts :-) 20:28 < dvgrhl> lol, yeah I should know better 20:28 < fo0bar> lolz 20:28 < mikegrb> lolz 20:28 < linbot> lolz 20:28 < HoopyCat> (that'd be about 32 megabits per second, which is nuzzling up lovingly against the safety cap) 20:29 < dvgrhl> well, I have to run for a bit, but I'll dl that from my home computer when I get back 20:29 < HoopyCat> dvgrhl: cool... give it a spin. if you need wget and you're running windows, cygwin will make your life awesome 20:29 < dvgrhl> I have it :D 20:29 < HoopyCat> woot 20:29 -!- meff [~meff@mirror.looking-glass.spherevision.org] has left #linode [] 20:29 < dvgrhl> thanks for the help though 20:30 < HoopyCat> i like the -O /dev/null as well, because that cuts your home I/O out :-) 20:30 < HoopyCat> no problem... lemme know how it goes 20:30 -!- meff [~meff@mirror.looking-glass.spherevision.org] has joined #linode 20:31 < HoopyCat> if i've been helpful, donate a blanket to a cold, injured, orphaned seal: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7799205.stm 20:31 < HoopyCat> ^--- my new schtick 20:38 -!- railsninja [~railsninj@121.212.130.223] has joined #linode 20:40 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 20:50 -!- Sputnik7 [~Sputnik7@c-71-192-5-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: -=SysReset 2.53=-] 20:53 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:55 < `James> Santa has been! 21:25 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@cpe-70-112-224-193.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 21:33 < linbot> New news from forums: ext4 in Feature Request/Bug Report 21:37 -!- cooldude [~cooldude@xtreme-57-41.dyn.aci.on.ca] has joined #linode 21:39 < linbot> New news from forums: Which is the best DC in terms of speed and reliability in Sales Questions and Answers 21:46 -!- Sputnik7 [~Sputnik7@c-71-192-5-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #linode 21:49 -!- cooldude [~cooldude@xtreme-57-41.dyn.aci.on.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:02 -!- azaghal_ [~azaghal@91.148.112.238] has joined #linode 22:08 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@195.252.105.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15 < MotoHoss> from the cl how do I see 'octal' perms? 22:19 -!- railsninja [~railsninj@121.212.130.223] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:19 < bd_> % stat .|grep '^Access'|head -1 22:19 < bd_> Access: (0751/drwxr-x--x) Uid: ( 1000/ bd) Gid: ( 1000/ bd) 22:19 < bd_> that's one option :) 22:20 < MotoHoss> ok. that helps. thanks. 22:20 -!- Yaakov [yaakov@kovaya.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20 -!- Yaakov [yaakov@kovaya.com] has joined #linode 22:21 < MotoHoss> err.. i did sumpthin wrong. 22:23 < bd_> ? 22:31 < MotoHoss> is that all on one line? 22:31 -!- bd_ [~foo@satoko.is.fushizen.net] has quit [Quit: kernel upgrape] 22:33 -!- doug73 [~doug@69.12.226.40] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35 -!- bd_ [~foo@satoko.is.fushizen.net] has joined #linode 22:35 < bd_> % uname -a 22:35 < bd_> Linux satoko 2.6.28-cfg1 #3 SMP Wed Dec 24 22:01:47 EST 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux 22:35 < bd_> ^^^ <3 pv-grub 22:40 < bd_> hmm, it seems one loses about 1.4mb of ram with pv-grub - see the (reserved) entries in the memory map printed during early boot. Or maybe that's some 2.6.28 thing. 22:40 * MotoHoss is tupid. 22:40 < MotoHoss> no '%' needed ;-) 22:41 -!- exor674 is now known as exor|zzz 22:41 < MotoHoss> bd_: tx. 22:41 < bd_> oh heh 22:41 < bd_> that's the prefix on my /do command :) 22:41 < bd_> % echo 'Look ma, no shell!' 22:41 < bd_> Look ma, no shell! 22:42 < MotoHoss> he 22:42 * exor|zzz attempts to trick bd_ into /do-ing cat /etc/shadow 22:42 < bd_> % cat /etc/shadow 22:42 < bd_> cat: /etc/shadow: Permission denied 22:42 < bd_> :D 22:43 < MotoHoss> :p 22:44 < MotoHoss> umm how do I get it to that for a list of files? 22:44 < MotoHoss> s/to/to do 22:44 < MotoHoss> hmm.. 22:46 < bd_> % perl -e 'for (@ARGV) { my (undef, undef, $mode) = stat($_); printf "%s %04o\n", $_, $mode } ' /etc/passwd /etc/shadow 22:46 < bd_> /etc/passwd 100644 22:46 < bd_> hmm 22:46 < bd_> /etc/shadow 100640 22:46 < bd_> % perl -e 'for (@ARGV) { my (undef, undef, $mode) = stat($_); printf "%s %04o\n", $_, $mode & 07777 } ' /etc/passwd /etc/shadow 22:46 < bd_> /etc/passwd 0644 22:46 < bd_> /etc/shadow 0640 22:47 < MotoHoss> ok... i see. i need to bash this into my skull. man bash ;-) 22:48 < bd_> that was perl :) 22:48 < MotoHoss> of course... 22:48 < bd_> you could do it with bash, probably 22:49 < bd_> but bash gets clumsy for certain things quite quickly 22:49 < MotoHoss> indeed. 22:50 < MotoHoss> in certain situations I'd like to see the output of perms octal for a directory 'ls -la' octal instead of rw------ and all that. 22:50 -!- xxiao [~18e3a043@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 22:51 < MotoHoss> just a quirk, I am getting old and don't remember the math all the time... especially when I am busy. ;-) or distracted... 22:53 < xxiao> i have a directory with 300 files, average file size is 13MB so it's about 4GB, when i play those files over the network it's not smooth. if i put just a few files into a different directory, it plays out perfectly fine, is this a xen-performance issue or a general problem, i use ubuntu 8.04 22:54 -!- rGeoffrey [~rGeoffrey@cpe-98-28-71-111.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 22:54 < tjfontaine> this is related to directory structure of the filesystem in use 22:54 < xxiao> the file system should be able to deal with this right? why a large directory affects performance when a file was read, i use ext3 22:54 < tjfontaine> is this on your linode 22:55 < xxiao> yes. but i doubt it will happen locally, though not tested locally yet 22:56 < xxiao> i probably have to split the large dir into 5 small ones, i guess 22:56 < tjfontaine> http://roopindersingh.com/2008/05/10/ext3-handling-large-number-of-files-in-a-directory/ 22:57 -!- dmadole [~David_Mad@d-208-103-64-64.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #linode 22:57 -!- dmadole [~David_Mad@d-208-103-64-64.cpe.metrocast.net] has left #linode [] 23:00 < xxiao> thanks for the link, just read it. however i only have about 350 files, far below the 2000 mentioned. 23:05 < HoopyCat> "A Chinese restaurant in Brighton was gutted by fire tonight, Christmas Eve." 23:05 < HoopyCat> son of a... 23:06 < tjfontaine> was that the name of the restaurant or the owner? 23:06 < tjfontaine> 23:10 < purrdeta> tjfontaine: lol. Ave. Q ftw. 23:10 < fo0bar> lolz 23:10 < mikegrb> lolz 23:10 < linbot> lolz 23:10 < HoopyCat> this is like zomg major disaster for the people-who-eat-at-chinese-restaurants-on-christmas-day demographic 23:10 < tjfontaine> HC included? 23:11 < HoopyCat> indeed 23:12 -!- Dreamer3 [~Dreamer3@74-129-225-206.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:12 < path-> do you do a big christmas day feast? 23:12 -!- eld101 [~47f579af@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 23:12 < eld101> HOLY FUCK FIOS IF FAST 23:12 < HedgeMage> heh 23:12 < bd_> eld101: gimme 23:12 < bd_> >:| 23:12 < tjfontaine> ut oh firetrucks 23:13 < eld101> 20meg down and 5 up 23:13 < path-> my parents have it, i'm pretty jealous cause they don't even know what they got 23:13 < eld101> just downloaded from my linode at 2.7 Meg per sec 23:14 < HoopyCat> path-: we like to put on nice sweaters and head off to the House of Poon for christmas dinner. just the two of us, along with approx. half of the world's jewish people 23:14 < eld101> <-- at his parents now 23:14 < bd_> eld101: if you're on windows XP, enable tcp window scaling and etc and you might be able to get even better :3 23:15 < eld101> thats just fine with me :) 23:16 < eld101> jeez its fast 23:16 < HoopyCat> eld101: how'd the flight go? 23:17 < eld101> long 23:17 < eld101> ended up being delayed 5hrs total 23:18 < eld101> anyone want a picture of the EWR data center lol 23:18 < mikegrb> lolz 23:18 < fo0bar> lolz 23:18 < linbot> lolz 23:19 < eld101> ill be right by there in the next day or 3 23:20 < HoopyCat> Two pounds of a dried plant that turned out to be the oldest marijuana in the world was discovered in a 2,700-year-old grave in the excavated Yanghai Tombs in the Gobi Desert. 23:21 -!- eld101 [~47f579af@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:21 < path-> two pounds!!! 23:21 < path-> woohoo 23:21 < tjfontaine> jeepers 23:22 -!- xxiao [~18e3a043@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:23 < HoopyCat> there was originally a lot more, but it was divided up and sold to unsuspecting desperate people at concerns 23:23 < HoopyCat> s/concerns/concerts/ 23:25 < reillyeon> RCN keeps dropping my SSH connections if I leave them open too long (does not seem to be related to inactivity). Any ideas? 23:26 < tjfontaine> man ssh_config 23:26 < tjfontaine> turn on keepalives 23:26 < tjfontaine> oh 23:26 < reillyeon> tjfontaine: Just tried, that ya... 23:26 < tjfontaine> can't hurt anyway 23:26 < tjfontaine> oh damn 23:26 < HoopyCat> http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/dec/22/50-things-we-know-now-we-didnt-know-time-last-year/life/ <--- for the curious 23:28 -!- rGeoffrey [~rGeoffrey@cpe-98-28-71-111.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:30 < HoopyCat> tjfontaine: go to bed, santa's in columbus 23:30 < reillyeon> Excessive flip-flop wearing leads to a much higher risk of developing skin cancer on the feet. Only half of patients with foot melanomas survive. 23:30 < tjfontaine> HoopyCat: ut oh 23:31 < HoopyCat> reillyeon: i almost pasted that, but i couldn't come up with a good pun involving 7400-series logic 23:31 -!- rGeoffrey [~rGeoffrey@cpe-98-28-71-111.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 23:32 < reillyeon> *head slap* 23:32 < HoopyCat> tjfontaine: err, he's in indianapolis now. totally skipped new york state. wtf. 23:32 < tjfontaine> that's just wrong 23:33 < HoopyCat> DETROIT! 23:33 < tjfontaine> ROCK CITY 23:34 < HoopyCat> probably skipped us due to wind :-( 23:36 < HoopyCat> first the house of poon burns down, then i get stuck watching the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe on broadcast TV, then santa skips the entire state. zomg, worst christmas ever :-( 23:36 < Internat> god xmas is overrated 23:36 < Internat> grr 23:40 < reillyeon> I don't know, love your fellow man is a pretty good sentiment. 23:42 < Internat> mmmm 23:44 < bd_> Important notice: Christmas has been cancelled this year. Please resume your normal activities, and have a nice december 25th. 23:44 < linbot> New news from forums: Kernel: safe_halt messages in General Discussion 23:44 < tjfontaine> Internat: yours is already over? 23:44 -!- njones [~njones@nat-pool-bne.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46 < HoopyCat> ok, bedtime. g'nite all! 23:49 -!- siuyee [~cf512849@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 23:49 < siuyee> Does all accounts include a static IP? 23:49 < bd_> siuyee: yes 23:51 < Internat> nah not yet :) still have another 8hrs of it.. 23:51 < siuyee> So it's possible to setup WebDav with https? 23:51 < tjfontaine> a likely story 23:51 < Internat> just over the whole xmas thing, and having to play nice to ppl you barely ever hear from.. and am just over the whole holiday people. 23:58 -!- rGeoffrey [~rGeoffrey@cpe-98-28-71-111.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Dec 24 23:59:00 2008