--- Day changed --- Log opened Tue Feb 07 23:59:02 2012 23:59 < Takyoji> I stated what was the output of testing through Cloudflare, above. 00:00 < Takyoji> as of the OS, I have no load, I have plenty of spare RAM, responsiveness of working connections hasn't been an issue 00:00 < crutex> man 00:00 < crutex> i had ipv6 addresses 00:00 < heckman> Something is up with your OS, not sure what tho. 00:00 < crutex> hat 00:00 < crutex> *HATE 00:00 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@31.203.127.75] has quit [Quit: michael_mbp] 00:01 < heckman> I'm sure they hat you too 00:01 < heckman> :) 00:01 < auraka> Takyoji: are ylou geeting ipv6 by way of dhcp or did you set it to static? 00:01 -!- zack_ [~zack@199.188.193.166] has quit [Quit: zack_] 00:01 < heckman> hatters gonna hat 00:01 < Takyoji> Can I not blindly blame it on the VM host config yet? :P 00:01 < auraka> getting 00:01 < heckman> Takyoji: are you listening to anything I've said? 00:01 < Takyoji> You said it was at the OS level of my Linode, yes. 00:01 < heckman> I've watched the IPv6 traffic from my Linode hit your Linode. Your Linode just does not respond back. 00:02 < auraka> Takyoji: are you getting ipv6 from dhcp or did you set it to be static 00:02 < heckman> auraka: you mean SLAAC? 00:02 < auraka> sorry whatever 00:02 < auraka> is it set static or not 00:03 < auraka> i've seen the same issues when i set a node's ipv6 static wrong 00:03 < Takyoji> It's not static, and it is shown in ifconfig, and it matches what's assigned for my Linode 00:03 < auraka> well then...if you hadn't modified anything at all I'm completely confused 00:06 < heckman> I couldn't even theorize why the system isn't replying back. 00:07 < auraka> until you ping it.....i would say something between the host and the gateway but *shrug* that would be far fetched 00:07 -!- crutex [46ae2543@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 00:07 < heckman> auraka: that would be a good theory but my traffic is hitting the Linode, and his Linode isn't sending a packet back out. 00:08 < heckman> Takyoji: what does this print: ip route get 2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:4396 00:08 < auraka> it does if you ping it 00:08 < heckman> I haven't pinged it 00:08 < heckman> I'm hitting it with an HTTP request that it isn't responding to. 00:08 < Takyoji> Rebooting now 00:08 < heckman> I see the request come in and no "ack" or data is spat back. 00:08 < auraka> the windows method 00:09 < auraka> heckman: if he doesn't have a default gateway? 00:09 < auraka> dunno 00:09 < heckman> It's SLAAC it's getting the announcements for the default gateway every N seconds. 00:10 < Takyoji> Hoogaboogawooga, it works now. 00:10 < auraka> sometimes the windows method words 00:10 < auraka> works 00:10 * heckman slaps Takyoji's around a bit with a large cactus 00:10 < auraka> Takyoji: ip -6 route show dev eth0 00:10 < heckman> fail 00:10 < heckman> Suppose to be your kernel. :/ 00:11 < auraka> heckman: no way jose 00:11 < Takyoji> I also removed a no longer used HE tunnel, but the routes were just the same before and after, in context of the prefix in question 00:12 < Takyoji> I can uncomment the old tunnel again, and see if the same issue arises. :P 00:14 < Takyoji> I was never at any point touching anything with the old tunnel in the debugging process, as an aside. 00:14 < auraka> ... 00:15 < auraka> you had another tunnel? 00:15 < auraka> you said...no tunnel 00:15 < auraka> you could have had a bad route in your ipv6 stuff which would explain everything you saw 00:16 < Takyoji> There were no bad routes, however. 00:17 < auraka> okay....you have a copy of the routing table before you rebooted and shut everything down? 00:17 < Takyoji> Yes 00:17 < auraka> pastebin it 00:18 < auraka> you would have had to do ip -6 route show 00:19 < Takyoji> Which I had done 00:19 < auraka> okay...can you show it...out of sheer curiosity 00:19 < Takyoji> http://bpaste.net/show/23171/ 00:20 -!- Bhavic [~bhavicp@westinn1.connect.com.fj] has joined #linode 00:20 < auraka> Takyoji: fe80::/64 via :: dev hetunnel proto kernel metric 256 <--- 00:21 < auraka> that was your problem 00:21 < Nemykal> yeah that metric is lower than the other one 00:21 < auraka> heckman: cookie time 00:23 -!- Athenon [~Athenon@74.197.151.154] has joined #linode 00:23 < heckman> nop, no cookie for you. :p 00:23 -!- tkmedia [~tk@c-71-235-131-225.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #linode 00:24 < heckman> auraka: <3 00:24 < auraka> heckman: give me my cookie or else......I'll ping the fremont data center and that sucker will crumble 00:24 < auraka> :-P 00:24 < heckman> Didn't see it because it was going through tunnel. 00:24 < auraka> bingo 00:24 < heckman> Alright, I'm headed to sleep 00:24 < heckman> <3 o/ 00:25 < auraka> I still want a cookie :-( 00:32 < Praefectus> pecan sandie or chocolate chip? 00:41 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 00:41 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@109.206.106.75] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:42 < tkmedia> !vend 00:44 < Solver> mmm chocolate 00:48 -!- ZeeO [~Joel@142-165-14-101.msjw.static.sasknet.sk.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50 < Katana> !vend 00:50 < linbot> New news from forums: Linode transfer/CPU/disk stats in General Discussion 00:50 < Katana> this upsets me 00:51 -!- Bdragon [~bdragon@host-79-241-220-24.midco.net] has joined #linode 00:52 -!- nisstyre [~nisstyre@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has joined #linode 00:52 -!- lakridserne [~IceChat77@d40adca4.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #linode 00:55 -!- andybooth [~boothy@50.Red-88-19-145.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #linode 01:01 -!- seanh-ansca [~Adium@c-98-210-113-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #linode 01:01 -!- seanh-ansca [~Adium@c-98-210-113-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:01 -!- Kunda [~Kunda@76-253-76-173.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Kunda] 01:03 -!- zack_ [~zack@199.188.193.166] has joined #linode 01:05 -!- Bass10 [Bass10@c-76-113-194-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:08 -!- l1nuxman [~l1nuxman@CPE0021296828b2-CM00111ae6f860.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:10 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@109.206.106.75] has joined #linode 01:10 -!- Boohemian [~Boohemian@209-6-68-240.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10 -!- Boohemian_ [~Boohemian@209-6-68-240.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #linode 01:13 -!- lakridserne [~IceChat77@d40adca4.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:14 -!- Hoggs [~Hoggs@121-73-32-225.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #linode 01:14 -!- Tom39Away_ [~tom@ool-457d6ac6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:14 -!- Takyoji [~Takyoji@2602:100:18b1:6e2c:21f:c6ff:fe3b:d0db] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:14 -!- advion [~advion--@cpe-74-71-55-117.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 01:16 -!- Athenon [~Athenon@74.197.151.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16 -!- Athenon [~Athenon@74.197.151.154] has joined #linode 01:21 -!- hfb [~hfb@cpe-98-151-249-95.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 01:30 -!- Tom39Away [~tom@ool-457d6ac6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #linode 01:40 -!- zack_ [~zack@199.188.193.166] has quit [Quit: zack_] 01:49 -!- dragonheart [~danblack@180.148.97.1] has joined #linode 01:49 -!- danblack [~danblack@180.148.97.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:56 -!- lakridserne [~IceChat77@hide05.efif.dk] has joined #linode 02:00 < bob__> hello, anyone good with virtualhost directives? i'm trying to limit access to a web application, only allowing from vpn.. i want to use however to include a particular uri for a lead capture 02:00 < bob__> anyone sure this is possible? 02:01 < bob__> or am i misinterpreting what i'm seeing. 02:01 < EugeneKay> Katana - somebody spammed it, so caker locked it. 02:02 < KyleXY> EugeneKay: :( 02:02 < EugeneKay> "This is why we can't have nice things" 02:04 < Kyh_> !hi 02:04 < linbot> Hello! 02:04 < Kyh_> :) 02:07 -!- aces1up [~46a658f7@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 02:07 < MTecknology> bob__: it's possible, but you shouldn't rely on the web server to do that - use iptables 02:07 * MTecknology goes nappy 02:08 < aces1up> question, i've been getting hack attempt to ssh.. I typically only log into ssh from 1 ip, and was thinking of only allowing that ip address.. My question is if I change to another location.. can I use the ajax shell console to still get into my box and then change these settings? 02:08 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:08 < bob__> MTecknology: well i have to have 80 open 02:08 < Kyh_> aces1up: yes 02:08 < Praefectus> aces1up: yes 02:08 < Kyh_> aces1up: or use fail2ban or only allow ssh keys, etc 02:08 < aces1up> kyh thanks. 02:09 -!- lsolesen [~Adium@0120000177.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:09 < bob__> to do that efficiently with iptables i would require another ip i believe.. 02:10 < bob__> also by denying complete access to the application with iptables how would i be able to allow access to the single entry point ? 02:10 < rnowak> you could use ssh tunnels and have the application served up on localhost 02:11 < bob__> the point is, there is one entrypoint i still need to be accessible from anywhere, since it is a lead capture from the website 02:12 -!- aces1up [~46a658f7@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12 -!- Aces1up23 [~46a658f7@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 02:12 < Aces1up23> so i edit /etc/hosts.allow so basically i can put my ip in there and it will effectively block all other ip's to ssh? 02:12 -!- VladGh [~vladgh@ip98-163-224-123.no.no.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:14 < bob__> Aces1up23: to block everyone you'd want to add sshd: ALL to hosts.deny and then sshd: to hosts.allow to allow that ip 02:15 -!- andybooth [~boothy@50.Red-88-19-145.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: I'm off] 02:17 -!- The_Eccentric_ [~The_Eccen@cpe-66-74-39-90.dc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:17 -!- lsolesen [~lsolesen@0120000177.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #linode 02:20 -!- Aces1up23 [~46a658f7@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23 -!- dragonheart [~danblack@180.148.97.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:31 -!- marius [~marius@rsclans.net] has joined #linode 02:34 -!- mpkossen [~mpkossen@188.202.125.121] has joined #linode 02:40 < EugeneKay> Ugh. I just spent three hours chasing down a Windows group policy / active directory dns registration issue 02:41 < EugeneKay> Turns out it was my over-zealous LAN firewall -_- 02:43 < KyleXY> EugeneKay: ._. 02:44 < EugeneKay> I have it set to block outgoing UDP/TCP :53(with an exception for 8.8.8.8) and redirect it to itself, which it did perfectly. 02:45 < KyleXY> woo 02:46 < EugeneKay> Oh well. 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Same company, but less PNGs. 03:32 < tkmedia> i have a a bunch already ... with handson .... migrating off them to linode 03:32 < bob__> EugeneKay: will my name.com account login work with name.net ? 03:32 < bob__> I have been using the reseller json api, its convenient 03:33 < EugeneKay> No, sadly. 03:33 < tkmedia> ok 2.99 ... that might be worth switching 03:33 < EugeneKay> You need to register again under .net. Aggravatingly, their username DB is shared, but the accounts are not compatible between sites. 03:33 -!- Ghost [~Ghost@210.23.81.164] has joined #linode 03:34 < tkmedia> hmm most .com seem to be around $10 03:34 < bob__> hmm maybe they don't have the API for name.net? not seeing it anywhere. oh wells, i'm cool with their png's 03:35 * EugeneKay shrugs 03:37 -!- ftc [~ftc@124-170-102-122.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #linode 03:39 < tkmedia> well for no diff in price ... might as well leave them all in the same place for now 03:39 -!- hipsterslapfight [~ryan@client-82-26-190-166.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 03:41 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 03:42 -!- Boohemian_ [~Boohemian@209-6-68-240.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:42 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:42 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 03:43 -!- burningdog [~roger@196-215-46-150.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #linode 03:43 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:43 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 03:43 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 03:43 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:43 -!- michael_mbp_ is now known as michael_mbp 03:45 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 03:45 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:45 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:45 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 03:46 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 03:46 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:46 -!- michael_mbp__ is now known as michael_mbp 03:46 < Kyh_> wtf 03:46 < Kyh_> stop that 03:46 -!- raj [~raj@c-68-46-138-78.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:47 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:47 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 03:51 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:52 -!- Bartzy [~bar@82.166.148.26] has joined #linode 03:52 < Bartzy> Hi 03:52 < Bartzy> if I have 300MB of swap used 03:53 < Bartzy> is that really bad , or is it possible that there are programs running that are putting stuff in swap just because they don't use it ? 03:53 < Kyh_> is it swapping out a lot? 03:53 < Kyh_> run iotop 03:53 -!- tkmedia [~tk@c-71-235-131-225.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:54 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 03:55 -!- lakridserne [~IceChat77@hide05.efif.dk] has quit [Quit: Never put off till tomorrow, what you can do the day after tomorrow] 03:57 < hawk> Bartzy: What Kyh_ said; if it's a fairly static set of 300 MB it may be fine, especially if you're talking about an environment with a good amount of RAM. 03:58 < Bartzy> hawk: Why is it fine ? 03:58 < hawk> I'm not saying it is, I'm saying it could be 03:58 < mdcollins> Afaik, the only time things go to swap is if the system ran out of memory. 03:58 < KyleXY> Stuff might just be sitting around because it wasn't used later, 03:58 < Bartzy> how many pages is considered fine in swap in and swap out in vmstat ? 03:59 < hawk> mdcollins, Bartzy: Not necessarily so. It may actually swap out inactive things just to get more ram for caches. 03:59 < KyleXY> hawk++ 03:59 < Bartzy> hawk: That's cool. 03:59 < Bartzy> hawk: everything consistently >0 in the swap columns in vmstat is a bad sign ? 04:00 < mdcollins> Just checked a few of my inactive systems, I have 11mb used swap and 6 mb used on another 04:00 < hawk> Bartzy: It's not a good sign... If it was a static set of stuff it had swapped out it would be zeroes in the si and so columns. 04:01 -!- duckydan [~duckydan@97.218.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:01 < KyleXY> mdcollins: linux likes it's disk swapping :p 04:02 < Bartzy> thanks 04:02 < KyleXY> Bartzy: Doesn't really mean it's all bad, you might've done something that needed a bunch of ram for a second and thus pushed it all into swap 04:02 < Bartzy> si and so are in pages ? 04:02 < KyleXY> !library memory 04:02 < linbot> KyleXY: 1. Troubleshooting Memory and Networking Issues - http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/memory-networking | 2. Use vmstat to Monitor System Performance - http://library.linode.com/linux-tools/common-commands/vmstat | 3. Provide Authoritative DNS Services with NSD on Fedora 13 - http://library.linode.com/dns-guides/nsd-authoritative-dns-fedora-13 04:03 < KyleXY> number 2 heh 04:03 < KyleXY> useful read for you probably 04:03 -!- hipsterslapfight [~ryan@host81-130-62-164.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #linode 04:04 < Bartzy> thanks. 04:05 -!- gerryvdm [~gerryvdm@d5152D00E.static.telenet.be] has joined #linode 04:08 < hawk> Bartzy: Not sure what the unit is actually, may well be pages. For the most part the interesting thing is just to see if it's thrashing or not. 04:09 -!- vodka [~rswarts@office.hostnetbv.nl] has joined #linode 04:22 -!- duckydan [~duckydan@97.218.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 04:28 -!- lakridserne [~IceChat77@hide05.efif.dk] has joined #linode 04:28 < lakridserne> Hi 04:50 < Knight> leenodah eh 04:52 -!- Rhydian [~56a76e72@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 04:53 < Rhydian> Hey guys I'm looking to use cpanel with linode would I use cent os or the 64bit version? 04:53 -!- Knight [~BOSS@snubby.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:54 < Kyh_> ? 04:54 < Kyh_> you can install whatever cpanel supports 04:55 < Praefectus> you can use either version of centos, but 32bit would use less memory 04:55 < Rhydian> Good point, silly question ^^ 05:02 < EugeneKay> !32or64 05:02 < linbot> 32-bit uses less memory; use it unless you have a specific need for x86_64 extensions or to scale past 3GB per-process 05:03 < SpaceHobo> http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz0t1cbkQc1qak0qdo1_400.jpg 05:05 -!- dubenstein [~dubenstei@199.192.241.16] has joined #linode 05:10 < tacticus> i prefer the phrase crime against music 05:11 -!- Athenon [~Athenon@74.197.151.154] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:12 -!- rainman_ [~erik@cavia.solidlinks.nl] has joined #linode 05:12 -!- rainman [~erik@cavia.solidlinks.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:21 -!- flashingpumpkin [~alen@host81-136-167-178.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #linode 05:22 < SirSquidness> tacticus: I prefer the term 'your singing voice' 05:23 < tacticus> :O 05:26 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:27 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:27 -!- michael_mbp_ is now known as michael_mbp 05:28 -!- thelongmile [~thelongmi@cpc10-ely05-2-0-cust65.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #linode 05:28 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:29 < thelongmile> Morning 05:30 < lakridserne> Hi 05:31 < thelongmile> Quick question, this might be an easy fix but I'm stumped. Server seems to have problems displaying images when linked to. http://www.indieink.org/ads/schedone/46860/468x60_1.jpg and http://www.indieink.org/ads/schedone/46860/468x60_1.png are the same image, we've also found that on some computers (no obvious relation) the system displays the PNG version, but not the JPG. Any ideas? 05:31 -!- Bhavic [~bhavicp@westinn1.connect.com.fj] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:32 -!- Bhavic [~bhavicp@westinn1.connect.com.fj] has joined #linode 05:32 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:33 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:34 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:34 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:34 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:35 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:35 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:35 < Kyh_> grr, work stupid irssi ignore 05:36 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:36 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:36 < tusk> morning 05:36 < lakridserne> hey tusk 05:36 < Kyh_> not for another 26 minutes. Which means its bedtime 05:36 < thelongmile> lol 05:36 < mikegrb> lulz 05:36 < tusk> Hi Lakrids 05:36 < thelongmile> Hey 05:36 < tusk> hi 05:37 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:37 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:37 < lakridserne> thelongmile: The site could have a feature enabled so that images does not show up on other sites than the website they are from. That way that website does not use bandwidth on it 05:37 < lakridserne> If I understand it correct 05:38 < tusk> a rewrite rule that is. 05:38 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:38 < lakridserne> tusk: Yeah - I know. 05:38 < thelongmile> Forgot to mention, this is my server - no .htaccess in that folder 05:38 < lakridserne> Okay. 05:38 < tusk> did you check the apache error.log and access.log 05:38 -!- michael_mbp__ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38 < tusk> what was the url's 05:40 < lakridserne> http://www.indieink.org/ads/schedone/46860/468x60_1.jpg 05:40 < lakridserne> That was the image 05:40 < lakridserne> I would imagine he's trying to put it on http://www.indieink.org 05:41 < tusk> maybe the content-type is wrong on the webserver so some webbrowser doesn't see it a picture 05:41 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:42 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:42 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:42 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:42 -!- michael_mbp_ is now known as michael_mbp 05:46 -!- michael_mbp_ [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has joined #linode 05:49 < thelongmile> Sorry, had to deal with something 05:49 -!- sebnash [~sebnash@80.87.25.146] has joined #linode 05:50 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:50 -!- michael_mbp_ is now known as michael_mbp 05:51 < thelongmile> Ok right, content-type I will double check now. Wierdly we are able to upload images into things like wp-content on the server itself and they display on the site fine as can be evidenced. This ads folder is created in the root of the drive, has 755 permissions which are set recursively to the subfolders and files, and all chowned to the same user and group instance that the server is running on. 05:52 -!- Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc18-reig4-2-0-cust124.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #linode 05:52 < thelongmile> There is a .htaccess in the root folder, and this is the default one that comes with wordpress. It does have Rewrite enabled 05:59 < thelongmile> any ideas? 06:00 < lakridserne> Depending on your setup the .htaccess can inherit 06:03 < thelongmile> Ah, I didn't know it could do that but this makes sense 06:03 < linbot> New news from forums: Apache/Passenger Tuning on Linode 768 in Performance and Tuning 06:03 < thelongmile> strange that it's not doing it for the wp-content folder but I guess that may have it's own .htaccess 06:03 -!- EriksLV [~EriksLV@88.135.148.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04 < thelongmile> This is RewriteEngine on isn't it 06:06 < lakridserne> RewriteEngine on just tell Apache that it should use the rewriteEngine 06:06 < lakridserne> there are some conditions and then something it should do if those conditions are met 06:09 < thelongmile> Seems it's already enabled in .htaccess. Toggling has no effect 06:10 < thelongmile> removing the .htaccess file also has no effect which would indicate it's an apache thing 06:11 -!- igufi [~jan@li275-121.members.linode.com] has joined #linode 06:14 < thelongmile> hm 06:14 -!- dwfreed_ [dwfreed@sekhmet.lug.mtu.edu] has joined #linode 06:16 -!- dwfreed [~dwfreed@sekhmet.lug.mtu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:18 < thelongmile> Looking at the log every time I load the file, I get a redirect, internal dummy connection. It loads the file but then dummy connection happens repeatedly 06:19 < thelongmile> This won't really tell you much it seems but http://pb.linode.com/6273 06:20 -!- wkl [~wkl@61.135.152.207] has quit [Quit: wkl] 06:20 < lakridserne> One moment 06:21 < thelongmile> I shall brb myself as well 06:22 -!- Rhydian [~56a76e72@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:24 < thelongmile> back 06:27 < lakridserne> I hate M$ Web Expression 06:28 < thelongmile> lol 06:28 < mikegrb> lulz 06:29 < lakridserne> My school have said I need to use it for a project we do in school :( 06:30 -!- goose [~goose@c-24-30-109-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #linode 06:31 < lakridserne> It seems that the ad is cached thus should just be served from your local computer 06:31 < thelongmile> Well I'm going to have plenty of time to learn. I'm moving from the UK, to Dallas :) I won't be able to work legally for 8 months 06:31 < lakridserne> Nice :D 06:33 < igufi> Is there a linode howto guide available for DNSSEC? 06:35 < tusk> !dnssec 06:35 < tusk> guess not. 06:35 < igufi> has anyone managed to setup dnssec on linode when using linode's nameservers? 06:36 < igufi> I'm not very familiar with dnssec but it seems like a interesting project 06:36 < hawk> igufi: With Linode's nameservers as slaves, sure 06:36 -!- Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc18-reig4-2-0-cust124.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:37 < hawk> igufi: The Linode web ui and api don't do dnssec, though 06:38 < igufi> hawk: darn. What did you have to do to make it work? 06:38 < tusk> argh. stupid android 3.2 emulator 06:38 < hawk> igufi: A master that with the signed zone(s) and the Linode servers acting a slaves 06:39 < igufi> hawk: sorry a master what? nameserver? 06:41 < thelongmile> lakridserne: yeah now this is what's odd. THe image flashes up briefly and then just goes away in everything except IE. 06:41 -!- zerotri [~zerotri@173-164-162-97-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #linode 06:41 -!- jtsage [~jtsage@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe96:5d78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:42 < tusk> thelongmile: nothing wrong if I view the images directly in firefox. 06:42 < tusk> thelongmile: maybe a CMS problem ? what CMS are you using ? 06:42 < tusk> have you cleaned the CMS cache directory ? (if it got one= 06:43 -!- lsolesen1 [~lsolesen@87.116.2.66] has joined #linode 06:43 -!- amarc [~amar@cm-static-13-180.telekabel.ba] has joined #linode 06:43 < hawk> igufi: Yes, I thought that was what we were talking about? 06:44 < igufi> hawk: yes, i was just wondering if there was a way to use linode's nameservers instead of rolling your own nameservers 06:45 < thelongmile> tusk: Wordpress, but this directory and images are completely seperate 06:45 < thelongmile> this are just in empty directories 06:45 -!- lsolesen [~lsolesen@0120000177.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:45 < tusk> thelongmile: both http://www.indieink.org/ads/schedone/46860/468x60_1.jpg and http://www.indieink.org/ads/schedone/46860/468x60_1.png works fine here in firefox 06:47 < linbot> New news from forums: Wordpress SSH / SFTP Access in Web Servers and Web App Development 06:47 < thelongmile> tusk: seems to be working for some reason now in everything other than chrome 06:47 < thelongmile> # 06:48 < hawk> igufi: ok 06:49 < tusk> just empty the chrome cache then. 06:49 < tusk> Ctrl+Shift+Delete 06:50 -!- jtsage [~jtsage@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe96:5d78] has joined #linode 06:52 < thelongmile> well, that didn't work but at least we've narrowed it to chrome. I just want to make sure the server isn't denying chrome for some reason 06:52 -!- J-Node [~J-Node@jman.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:52 < thelongmile> Annoyingly I can't remember what I changed 06:57 < thelongmile> Got it, 06:57 < thelongmile> Thanks 06:57 < thelongmile> SO, how are things 07:00 < KingTarquin> thelongmile o/ 07:00 < thelongmile> Hey Keiran 07:03 < thelongmile> KingTarquin: Why the face? 07:06 < igufi> when using virtual hosts with apache2, which website gets served when a user browses using just the machines ip address? 07:08 < rnowak> igufi: the one without a servername/alias, if there is none, the first one that is loaded 07:08 -!- ngranek [~bigjocker@186.88.32.139] has joined #linode 07:09 < igufi> Ok, how can I influence the order if all the sites have servername/aliases defined? 07:09 < thelongmile> YAY my engineer just turned up 07:09 < igufi> or can i define a "dummy" site with no content that gets served when someone browses with the ip address only? 07:10 < rnowak> if you're using the site_enabled and site_available, it is loaded in alphabetical order, the same order that ls would print in normal cases 07:10 < rnowak> 12:08:17 rnowak: igufi: the one without a servername/alias ... 07:10 < rnowak> Well, actually, that's not entirely true, but for most cases 07:10 < igufi> ok, so the minimum i need to setup is documentroot and error log parameters? 07:11 < igufi> (for the dummy site) 07:11 < rnowak> no need for the error log if you don't want one, nor document root if you do it otherwise, but that is sensible 07:12 < igufi> Ok, thank you. I'll give this a try. 07:15 -!- Hellojer_ [~Hellojere@89.7.90.160] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:19 < igufi> rnowak: hmmh, i created a entry for "dummy" with documentroot and log parameters setup, created the relevant directories in /srv/www/dummy/ and used a2ensite to load it, followed by /etc/init.d/apache2 reload -- but I still get served the first "proper" website in alpabetical order when browsing to the ip address. 07:19 < rnowak> igufi: is dummy the first listed if you ls the directory? 07:20 < rnowak> igufi: if not, rename it to 000dummy or someting to ensure it is listed first 07:20 < igufi> no, but is the only one that doesn't have the servername or alias defined? I thought that was enough? 07:20 < igufi> but I'll change the name and see if that helps 07:20 -!- ngranek [~bigjocker@186.88.32.139] has quit [Quit: ngranek] 07:21 < rnowak> oh, sorry, missed that. Yeah, iirc, that should be enough. Though, I've always had a dummy, and I've always ensured it is loaded first. I may have correlated things too much. 07:22 -!- asdfgghrewq [~3ebd43ce@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 07:23 -!- stafamus [~stafamus@host-89-243-36-132.as13285.net] has joined #linode 07:24 < igufi> rnowak: it works! it had to be the first in alphabetical order. Thank you! 07:24 < rnowak> heh fair enough :) 07:24 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@201-11-213-235.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #linode 07:25 -!- michael_mbp [~michael_m@62.215.214.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:26 -!- Eyecu [~gold@CPE204e7f1bd8ae-CM0011e6ee19e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #linode 07:26 -!- WesB [~gold@CPE204e7f1bd8ae-CM0011e6ee19e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:30 -!- asdfgghrewq [~3ebd43ce@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:31 -!- wkl [~wkl@122.198.132.145] has joined #linode 07:42 -!- raj` [~raj@c-68-46-138-78.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 07:46 -!- orville [~orville@cpe-184-59-80-117.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 07:49 -!- bas [~bas@a38139.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #linode 07:50 -!- Kunda [~Kunda@76-253-76-173.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode 07:50 -!- bas is now known as Guest1919 07:51 -!- Guest1919 [~bas@a38139.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [] 07:51 -!- bas2 [~bas@a38139.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #linode 07:52 -!- bas2 [~bas@a38139.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [] 07:53 -!- basz [~3ea3268b@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 07:53 -!- nisstyre [~nisstyre@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:54 < basz> hihello, my server is crashing. It's an Ubuntu10.04. Looks like it's apache2 running out of memory... Anybody any idea where to look? 07:54 < basz> Should crash the whole machine does it? 07:55 < basz> Should not i meant. 07:56 -!- atula [~neobreed@c-24-63-134-10.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #linode 07:56 < akerl> basz: Using mpm-prefork and/or mod_php? 07:58 < basz> hi!, not sure what you mean by mpm-prefork, mod_php / suexec 07:59 < basz> sorry, I am unfamiliar with mom-prefork 07:59 -!- goose [~goose@c-24-30-109-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Staying alive can kill you, it's taken years off of my life.] 07:59 < basz> mod_php i use 07:59 < akerl> If you're using mod_phpm you're using prefork 07:59 < akerl> Pop open your apache config, and in the section for prefork, check what your MaxClients is set to 08:00 < basz> I see this message when i login via linode list ssh 08:00 < basz> kernel BUG at mm/swapfile.c:2527! 08:00 < basz> ok 08:01 < basz> 150 08:02 < akerl> Try changing that to 5 08:02 < eshlox> hm, i add my ipv6 address to AAAA in dns manager, ping6 domain works, but what i need to connect to ipv6 irc with this host? 08:03 < akerl> Also, what's the output of `uname -r`? 08:03 -!- goose [~goose@c-24-30-109-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #linode 08:03 < basz> done that... why should that help? 08:04 < akerl> basz: Prefork spawns a new process for each connection up to MaxClients. Each of those processes contains all of mod_php, so they can get pretty big. It's using all your RAM which is why you're OOMing 08:04 < akerl> eshlox: Are you trying to connect to an IRC network *from* the Linode? 08:05 -!- vraa [~vraa@c-76-30-144-32.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:05 < eshlox> akerl: yes 08:05 < akerl> What irc client? 08:05 < eshlox> irssi 08:05 < eshlox> i know, /connect -6 server 08:06 -!- mariusz [~mks@wsip-72-215-50-194.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #linode 08:06 < akerl> eshlox: set "resolve_prefer_ipv6" to yes 08:06 < irgeek> eshlox: Most of the IRC networks have a different name set up for connecting with IPv6. 08:06 < basz> ok thanks 08:06 < basz> better start googling MaxClients and optimum config 08:06 < irgeek> OFCT uses irc6.oftc.net 08:06 < irgeek> s/CT/TC/ 08:07 < eshlox> hm 08:07 < basz> Question? Why does it crash the whole server? Should it be able to deny an spawn request, without bringing the whole machine down? 08:07 -!- eshlox_ [eshlox@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:6a2a] has joined #linode 08:07 < eshlox_> ;-/ 08:08 -!- eshlox_ [eshlox@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:6a2a] has left #linode [] 08:08 < akerl> Seems to work :) 08:08 < eshlox> ok, but without domain as host? ;-) 08:08 < irgeek> You need reverse DNS set up for that. 08:09 < eshlox> in remote access? 08:09 < akerl> Yup 08:11 < eshlox> uhm, ok, i had only set ipv4, thanks 08:11 -!- blindwaves [~blindwave@bb219-75-55-224.singnet.com.sg] has joined #linode 08:15 < Katana> i woke up to my alarm clock this morning in a half-awake state 08:15 < Katana> i yelled "urusai!" at it. it didn't work. 08:15 < Katana> this makes me sad. :( 08:16 < vodka> what is shouting 'urusai' at clocks supposed to do? 08:16 < SpaceHobo> vodka: it's Japanese for "loud" 08:16 < vodka> ah, so it makes the alarm clock make more noise? 08:17 < SpaceHobo> vodka: boys tend to shout "loud!" to quiet someone down, and girls whine "quiet" at it 08:17 < vodka> I see 08:17 < SpaceHobo> vodka: basically Katana is trying to impress us all with how so very Japan he is. 08:18 < akerl> You had me at "Katana" :) 08:18 < Katana> i'm lucky i don't have anything to throw at it in range 08:18 -!- karstensrage [~karstensr@c-67-174-201-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:18 < Katana> otherwise i'd have a smashed alarm clock 08:18 -!- enthdegree [~BitchX@cpe-174-099-054-167.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19 < lakridserne> Katana: Then you'd not need to get up in the morning 08:19 < vodka> if I smash my alarm clock it is likely to catch fire 08:22 -!- goose [~goose@c-24-30-109-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Staying alive can kill you, it's taken years off of my life.] 08:22 -!- goose [~goose@glados.ext3.net] has joined #linode 08:24 -!- tugrul [~58f88a94@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 08:25 -!- JordanMag [~566c43e1@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 08:25 < tugrul> i try login explorer our sites and not login ( 504 Gateway Time-out ) error. After i login linode manager and reboot but not change this error and our sites not working. 08:26 < tugrul> please help me 08:26 -!- goose_ [~goose@c-24-30-109-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #linode 08:27 < tugrul> this is a commercial site with importat technical support information. how to again working our sites 08:27 -!- JordanMag [~566c43e1@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27 -!- JordanMag [~566c43e1@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 08:28 -!- burningdog [~roger@196-215-46-150.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Quit: burningdog] 08:28 -!- stephenplatz [~steve@ool-18bc554f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #linode 08:28 < JordanMag> Hi. To restore a Linode backup, I need to delete my Ubuntu disk image, and then restore the backup to that Linode, right? Currently I can't restore because there's "not enough free space". 08:29 < tugrul> we require urgent assistance, we accept additional costs for this service if required. 08:30 -!- goose [~goose@glados.ext3.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:30 < akerl> tugrul: Sounds like an issue internally with the communication between your web server and whatever sits behind it. I'd suggest checking your logs for more info 08:31 < akerl> JordanMag: That would work. You could also shrink your existing disks so there's enough space 08:31 < akerl> That way, if the restore doesn't contain what you want for whatever reason, you haven't nuked your existing disks 08:33 -!- Bass10 [Bass10@c-76-113-194-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #linode 08:33 < JordanMag> Thanks akerl 08:34 -!- oponder [~oponder@i130041.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #linode 08:35 -!- ngranek [~bigjocker@186.93.174.218] has joined #linode 08:35 < tugrul> dear akerl, how to check logs. because our admin is vacation please help me thanks a lot 08:36 < akerl> tugrul: You'll want to SSH in, locate where your server is storing the revelant logs (usually /var/log/) and check them to see what the issue it 08:36 < tugrul> and I can not find him 08:37 -!- Bass10 [Bass10@c-76-113-194-7.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [] 08:37 -!- squircle [~squircle@2001:470:1d:647:cabc:c8ff:fee7:8bb7] has joined #linode 08:40 < tugrul> how to nginx restart ? 08:41 < akerl> Depends on the distro 08:42 < npmr> tugrul, is there a file called /etc/init.d/nginx? 08:45 < tugrul> dear npmr, I do not know how shall call 08:45 -!- goose_ [~goose@c-24-30-109-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This *should* be my last xchat restart!] 08:46 -!- goose [~goose@glados.ext3.net] has joined #linode 08:48 -!- wkl [~wkl@122.198.132.145] has quit [Quit: wkl] 08:49 * KingTarquin boops goose 08:49 < goose> Hai :) 08:49 < goose> I did it 08:49 < KingTarquin> Did what? :o 08:49 < goose> * [goose] (~goose@glados.ext3.net): Anthony Edwards 08:49 < goose> * [goose] 178.79.178.162 :actually using host 08:50 < goose> OpenVPN yay 08:50 < auraka> ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? 08:50 < goose> more notably: OpenVPN on windows 08:50 * KingTarquin stabs goose in the eye with a network cable. 08:50 < goose> got it to work for my linux desktop forever ago, but never been able to get it to work with my windows setup till now 08:50 < KingTarquin> I was happy for you, but then you mentioned Windows. :( 08:51 < goose> well it's being run on my linode, I meant windows as a client 08:51 < KingTarquin> Ahhh! 08:51 < KingTarquin> Awesome :D 08:52 < KingTarquin> The Uni I'm at has a strict "No VPN" policy. :( 08:52 < goose> wat 08:52 < goose> why? 08:54 < Pryon> interferes with their eavesdropping 08:54 < KingTarquin> Pretty much. 08:54 -!- tugrul [~58f88a94@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:54 < KingTarquin> Well it's not just that, they like to make sure nobody is torrenting on the stupidly fast uplink. 08:55 < KingTarquin> stupidly fast dedicated to this building uplink* 08:55 < Pryon> yeah. They're probably concerned about unauthorized devices on their network, too (e.g. split routing on a client, etc.) 08:55 < goose> that's lame 08:56 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@201-11-213-235.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:56 -!- tugrul [~58f75ea6@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 08:58 < KingTarquin> They restrict the Internet connection in the halls of residence to something stupid like 1MB/s per 20 clients or something stupid like that. 08:58 < KingTarquin> Though in one of the halls, they are trailing a faster connection for gamers. 08:59 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@201-11-213-235.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #linode 09:03 -!- vivid [~vivid@host86-171-213-181.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has joined #linode 09:03 -!- w7u64xi7 [~w7u64xi7@41.234.55.57] has joined #linode 09:04 < w7u64xi7> hi 09:04 < squircle> hello! 09:04 < vivid> hi, I've set up a LAMP stack, is there a way to test whether an .htaccess file is working? It doesn't seem to be right now 09:05 < lakridserne> !hi 09:05 < linbot> Hello! 09:05 < w7u64xi7> Please, now I am trying to follow steps from the vps bible website and stick at this step:Harden the Secure Shell (SSH) 09:05 < squircle> vivid: type "test" into the .htaccess file and you should get a 500 error 09:05 < vivid> yep, guess it works fine 09:05 < squircle> w7u64xi7: do you have a link? 09:06 < lakridserne> spuircle: I think it i sa paid membership site 09:06 < lakridserne> as far as I know 09:06 < vivid> i'm currently trying to follow this... http://expressionengine.com/user_guide/general/remove_index.php.html 09:06 < w7u64xi7> squircle, http://dpaste.com/699610/ 09:06 < vivid> it doesn't want to work though 09:06 < w7u64xi7> theses are the steps mentioned in the private guide 09:06 < squircle> vivid: do you have mod_rewrite enabled? 09:07 < squircle> w7u64xi7: what exactly is causing you problems? 09:07 < vivid> I don't know(?) squircle, how do I check? 09:07 < w7u64xi7> but after I did all requied as mentioned in the above link I was not able to run the command (SU) and got an error that authentication faliure 09:07 < vivid> probably not in other words 09:07 -!- Sputnik7 [~Sputnik7@c-174-62-136-89.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:08 < squircle> vivid: a2enmod rewrite, I think 09:08 < squircle> w7u64xi7: what distro are you running? 09:08 < squircle> vivid: either that or a2enmod mod_rewrite 09:08 < w7u64xi7> squircle, The problem is exactly that after I did the required edits I can no longer use the command SU 09:09 < w7u64xi7> squircle, It is Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 09:09 < w7u64xi7> Do you want my linode username? 09:09 < squircle> w7u64xi7: no 09:09 < vivid> cool, that's probably what I have to do... 09:09 -!- smed_ [~smed@173-12-5-58-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #linode 09:09 < w7u64xi7> squircle, ok 09:09 < squircle> w7u64xi7: ubuntu doesn't let you use `su` by default. what happens when you run `sudo su`? 09:10 < squircle> w7u64xi7: were you able to use `su` before you ran these instructions? 09:11 < w7u64xi7> root@li351-146:/home/PwFpfzDuG7RN2XKx# 09:11 < w7u64xi7> this is what it says when I fill in the command (SU) 09:12 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@spacehobo.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:12 < squircle> w7u64xi7: so then there's no problem... `su` is promoting you to root... 09:12 < squircle> w7u64xi7: nothing you changed in sshd_config would prevent you from using `su` 09:13 < w7u64xi7> You mean to fill in my password for root account and not the new user (PwFpfzDuG7RN2XKx) 09:13 < squircle> w7u64xi7: when you run `su`, you should type the root password 09:13 -!- joshdotsmith [~joshsmith@c-174-60-6-232.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: joshdotsmith] 09:14 < w7u64xi7> Oh, I was filling in with the new user's passwod I've just created. 09:14 < w7u64xi7> Ok 09:14 < squircle> w7u64xi7: you do that when you use `sudo`, not `su` 09:14 < w7u64xi7> I'll try and let you know 09:14 < w7u64xi7> squircle, sudo is for the new added user, and su for root only? 09:14 < vivid> damn, put it into the section as instructed here http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_rewrite.html, but no luck, still the same 09:15 < w7u64xi7> squircle, Do i get it the right way!? 09:15 < squircle> w7u64xi7: sudo and su do basically the same thing, su just logs you in as root, but sudo runs particular commands as root (like `sudo reboot`) 09:15 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@spacehobo.user.oftc.net] has joined #linode 09:16 < squircle> w7u64xi7: you shouldn't be logging in to your linode as root, just use `sudo` and `su` when you need root access 09:16 < squircle> vivid: what did you put into the virtualhost section? 09:16 < squircle> vivid: the stuff in .htaccess? 09:16 < w7u64xi7> squircle, I will try and feed you back then :) 09:17 < vivid> RewriteEngine On + RewriteOptions Inherit 09:17 < vivid> is there something else i need to enable? 09:17 < squircle> vivid: what distro are you running? 09:18 < vivid> ubuntu 09:18 < lakridserne> ah see you 09:18 < squircle> vivid: and you restarted/reloaded apache? 09:18 -!- lakridserne [~IceChat77@hide05.efif.dk] has quit [Quit: Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.] 09:18 -!- linville [~linville@sapphire.tuxdriver.com] has joined #linode 09:18 < vivid> no I didn't, sorry how is that done? 09:18 < squircle> vivid: sudo service apache2 restart 09:19 < squircle> vivid: also, check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to make sure mod_rewrite is in there 09:20 -!- cro [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has joined #linode 09:20 < vivid> oh crap, it won't restart... waiting Syntax error on line 8 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled 09:21 < squircle> vivid: well, i'd fix that... 09:21 < vivid> I checked in mods-enable, there's folders but no such folder called mod-rewrite 09:22 < vivid> I removed the offending lines, guess I put them in the wrong place 09:23 < squircle> vivid: did you enable mod_rewrite as root? 09:23 < squircle> vivid: try `sudo a2enmod rewrite` 09:23 < vivid> yeah, i did now 09:24 < vivid> :/ 09:24 < vivid> think I installed it 09:25 < squircle> vivid: now that you enabled it, restart apache and check if it's enabled (you should see rewrite in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled) 09:25 -!- stevepiercy [~Adium@dsl-68-170-180-166.dhcp.cruzio.com] has joined #linode 09:26 -!- Kyh [~kyhwana@ip-118-90-98-15.xdsl.xnet.co.nz] has joined #linode 09:26 < vivid> think it's installed but I can't see it 09:27 < squircle> vivid: what do you see in /etc/apache2/mods-available? 09:27 < vivid> I tried `sudo a2enmod rewrite` and it said it's already installed 09:27 < vivid> there's something called rewrite.load 09:27 < vivid> must be it 09:27 < squircle> yep, that's it 09:27 < squircle> so rewrite is enabled 09:28 < JordanMag> Hi. Just ran rkhunter, and got this warning: 09:28 < vivid> hozanah it's all working 09:28 < JordanMag> Warning: The command '/usr/bin/lynx-cur' has been replaced by a script: /usr/bin/lynx-cur: POSIX shell script text executable 09:28 < squircle> vivid: and you _do_ have .htaccesses enabled, right? 09:28 < JordanMag> Should I delete the /usr/bin/lynx-cur file? 09:28 < vivid> must have, don't know how though but it's working 09:28 < squircle> vivid: oh, good 09:28 < vivid> back on the road to glory 09:28 < squircle> yay 09:28 -!- stevepiercy [~Adium@dsl-68-170-180-166.dhcp.cruzio.com] has left #linode [] 09:29 < w7u64xi7> squircle, I've tried both passwords for root and the other new user, but both reporting access denied and su: Authentication failure 09:29 < vivid> are you offical tech support, that was awesome 09:29 < squircle> vivid: nope: 09:29 < squircle> !squircle 09:29 < linbot> squircle (skwɜːkʉl) (n) 1. A mathematical shape with properties between those of a square and those of a circle. 2. A frequent chat participant in #linode, often abusing linbot. 09:29 < squircle> w7u64xi7: so you're logged in as the new user, and when you type `su`, you provide the root password? 09:30 -!- basz [~3ea3268b@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30 < vivid> haha, thanks, I do want to get good at this stuff, very much appreciated, so much to learn when I'm trying to learn a milion other things at the same time 09:30 < vivid> good day! 09:31 < squircle> vivid: we've all been there, i'm learning a billion things right now, glad I can help! 09:31 < w7u64xi7> I've tried both passwords and neither working 09:31 -!- lsolesen1 [~lsolesen@87.116.2.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:31 -!- vivid [~vivid@host86-171-213-181.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31 < w7u64xi7> squircle, I am logged in using pageant with key using putty 09:31 -!- Kyh_ [~kyhwana@ip-118-90-115-84.xdsl.xnet.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:32 < JordanMag> Sorry, but can anyone help me, regarding what to do about that rkhunter message? 09:32 < squircle> w7u64xi7: and `su` worked before this? 09:33 < squircle> JordanMag: have you looked at what /usr/bin/lynx-cur is? (it's a shell script so you should be able to read it) 09:33 < w7u64xi7> squircle, Yes 09:33 < squircle> w7u64xi7: nothing you changed in sshd_config would've stopped su from working, so it must've been something else 09:34 < w7u64xi7> squircle, you mean to do a rebuild 09:34 < squircle> w7u64xi7: no, just go back through everything else you changed and see if any of it would stop su from working 09:34 < squircle> w7u64xi7: starting at the most recent and moving backwards 09:34 < JordanMag> Hard for me to make heads or tails of it. Pasted it here: https://gist.github.com/1770099 09:35 < JordanMag> Something about languages... 09:35 < w7u64xi7> squircle, actually these were the 1st thing to do 09:35 < squircle> JordanMag: that looks like /usr/bin/lynx-cur from the lynx-cur package... 09:35 -!- yacc [~Adium@adsl-75-6-253-139.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:36 < JordanMag> So safe to ignore that warning? 09:36 < squircle> JordanMag: yep 09:36 < squircle> (IMHO) 09:36 < squircle> you can check for yourself if you want 09:37 < JordanMag> Sorry I'm such a noob, but I don't know when these warnings are serious, or when they're not. 09:37 < JordanMag> Does this mean anything to anyone? Warning: No output found from the lsmod command or the /proc/modules file: 09:38 < Nemykal> not a big deal, just means modules not supported by that kernel 09:38 < squircle> JordanMag: it just means that you have no kernel modules installed 09:39 < w7u64xi7> squircle, please I am sending the image fiile 09:39 < w7u64xi7> plese accept it 09:39 < squircle> w7u64xi7: please do not DCC files, put it somewhere else 09:39 < w7u64xi7> it is aprint screen 09:39 < Nemykal> just imgur it 09:39 < w7u64xi7> ok 09:40 -!- Sputnik7 [~Sputnik7@c-174-62-136-89.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #linode 09:41 < JordanMag> Thanks a lot. Last one: is this a normal directory? -> Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.udev 09:41 < squircle> yes 09:41 < JordanMag> Great. Thanks again. Really appreciate it. 09:42 < squircle> :) 09:43 * rnowak DCCs a surprise to squircle 09:43 -!- stephenplatz [~steve@ool-18bc554f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Ciao!] 09:43 < squircle> ooh, i love surprises! 09:43 * squircle accepts 09:45 -!- bas [~525f6a4b@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 09:45 -!- bas is now known as Guest1929 09:46 -!- tugrul [~58f75ea6@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:48 < w7u64xi7> squircle, this is the image http://i.imgur.com/gJW4V.png 09:49 < w7u64xi7> these are the only changed I made 09:49 < w7u64xi7> squircle, and i was doing ok bfore it 09:49 < squircle> w7u64xi7: and you're absolutely sure you could use `su` as a non-root user before this, right? 09:50 < w7u64xi7> squircle, yes 09:50 < squircle> w7u64xi7: well then I don't know what changed 09:50 < w7u64xi7> also I added the user ALL 09:50 < w7u64xi7> I mean the format of adding the access to the user 09:51 < squircle> w7u64xi7: are you talking about /etc/sudoers? because that has nothing to do with `su` 09:52 < rnowak> whatever that guide is, suggests changing the ssh port to "puzzle hackers", I lulzd heartily 09:53 < squircle> ssh: connection refused on port 22 09:53 * squircle is confus 09:53 < w7u64xi7> squircle, I mean I did used the command (visudo) to add the new user 09:53 < squircle> w7u64xi7: that's sudo, it has nothing to do with `su` 09:53 < w7u64xi7> squircle, newuser ALL=(ALL) ALL 09:53 < squircle> w7u64xi7: again, nothing to do with `su` 09:53 < rnowak> w7u64xi7: you need to supply the root password for su, not your user's password 09:53 < squircle> w7u64xi7: and you're sure you used `su` as a NON-ROOT user, NOT sudo? 09:54 < w7u64xi7> squircle, I mean I've first used the sudo to add the user to the admin access, then tried the steps in the image 09:54 < squircle> w7u64xi7: but did you ever use `su`, or just sudo? 09:54 < squircle> w7u64xi7: /etc/sudoers has nothing to do with su, again 09:55 < w7u64xi7> it seems no I am not as it was not mentioned in the tutorials before 09:55 -!- corycollier [~corycolli@8.26.119.250] has joined #linode 09:55 < w7u64xi7> squircle, rnowak sorry it is just my 1st time and I am following a tutorial from VPS Bible dot com 09:56 < w7u64xi7> what shall I do now? 09:56 < rnowak> you've confused the shit out of me, so no idea 09:56 -!- joshdotsmith [~joshsmith@173-163-32-233-cpennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #linode 09:56 < squircle> w7u64xi7: well is there a problem? 09:56 < w7u64xi7> Yes the problem still exist that I can not install the firewall 09:57 < squircle> w7u64xi7: what are you trying to install? 09:57 < w7u64xi7> rnowak, I am really sorry 09:57 < w7u64xi7> squircle, I am trying to Set Up A Firewall Using iptables 09:57 < squircle> w7u64xi7: you don't need to "install" iptables 09:57 < rnowak> w7u64xi7: what is the actual issue that you have with su and sudo right now, what is going wrong, what is happening, and what are you expecting that should happen instead? 09:59 < w7u64xi7> squircle, rnowak ... the tutorial says http://dpaste.com/699637/ ... so I am trying to install it to secure the VPS 09:59 < rnowak> w7u64xi7: what is the actual issue that you have with su and sudo right now, what is going wrong, what is happening, and what are you expecting that should happen instead? 09:59 -!- vraa [~vraa@c-76-30-144-32.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #linode 10:00 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@r74-195-229-29.stl1cmta01.stwrok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:00 < w7u64xi7> PwFpfzDuG7RN2XKx@li351-146:~$ su 10:00 < w7u64xi7> Password: 10:00 < w7u64xi7> su: Authentication failure 10:00 < w7u64xi7> PwFpfzDuG7RN2XKx@li351-146:~$ 10:00 < squircle> why you would name a user "PwFpfzDuG7RN2XKx" is beyond me 10:00 < w7u64xi7> It does not accept the password ... this is the main problem for me 10:00 < rnowak> whose password are you typing? 10:01 < w7u64xi7> squircle, I've just read that it is a security wise to use a hard long username 10:01 < rnowak> this vps bible is amazing huh 10:01 < dominikh> stop reading bs then 10:01 < squircle> w7u64xi7: uhh... i don't know where you read that, but the username really doesn't matter 10:01 < akerl> w7u64xi7: Your username is not a security measure... 10:01 < w7u64xi7> rnowak, for su I am using the root password 10:02 < akerl> If you read this in a guide, I'd recommend burning any copies of that guide you have 10:02 < rnowak> w7u64xi7: time to shut down your linode, and change the root password using linode's control panel then if you've forgotten it 10:02 < rnowak> also, 10:02 < rnowak> http://library.linode.com <--- use that instead of this horrible vps bible crap 10:02 < akerl> Also your hostname isn't properly set 10:02 < w7u64xi7> No the username issue was not in the vps bible guide but it was in another website 10:02 < rnowak> why are you trusting morons that decided to distribute their retardation? 10:03 < w7u64xi7> rnowak, I've found this website using linode for the tutorials 10:03 < akerl> w7u64xi7: Say what now? 10:03 < rnowak> if I make a website that tells you to jump infront of a truck, will you do it? 10:05 < w7u64xi7> rnowak, akerl It is that I am new to linux and it is costing a lot to hire someone and I tried knownhost.com and reallt not fast as I was expecting ... so I am back to linode and try to find my way out. 10:05 -!- rurufufuss [~rurufufus@115-64-27-246.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:05 < akerl> w7u64xi7: Step one is to follow the info in the Linode Library instead of random guides on the interwebs 10:05 < w7u64xi7> also many reviews reporting that linode is the really good VPS to rely on 10:05 < rnowak> sure, that's all fine, and you should stick with it if that is what you want, but you need to read these "guides" and "tutorials" with a grain of salt, most of them are utter shit 10:08 < rnowak> as mentioned above, the linode library articles should get you quite far. You're really just hurting yourself by doing silly things like using usernames that make no sense, or changing sshd ports to "puzzle hackers". 10:08 < w7u64xi7> ok 10:09 -!- buddyw [crt@pillar.budw.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:09 * akerl changes his http port to puzzle everyone 10:09 < squircle> hah 10:09 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@r74-195-229-29.stl1cmta01.stwrok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #linode 10:09 -!- Guest1929 [~525f6a4b@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11 < rnowak> cRzYyewsernaem@akerl:1337/website.0nion.php.aspx.py.exe.dll.so.com.txt.jpg.pl.\x0 10:11 < rnowak> I found his site 10:11 -!- alexgordon [~alexgordo@host-2-99-34-122.as13285.net] has joined #linode 10:16 -!- voed [~radix@nikosoffice.uts.du.edu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:17 < Katana> dat nul byte 10:18 < goose> 24.xx.xxx.49 - - [08/Feb/2012:10:16:51 -0500] "GET /files/ HTTP/1.1" 200 8821 "-" "QUIT FUCKING MONITORING MY USER AGENT" 10:18 < rnowak> cute 10:18 -!- DephNet[Paul] [~Paul@host-92-27-204-46.static.as13285.net] has joined #linode 10:22 -!- VladGh [~vladgh@ip98-163-224-123.no.no.cox.net] has joined #linode 10:23 * Katana would firewall said IP 10:24 < akerl> ... Why> 10:24 < Katana> i see things like that, i don't want them accessing my box 10:25 < Katana> that's like the moron that put a EULA in their user-agent 10:25 < SpaceHobo> … 10:25 < squircle> whaaaa? 10:25 < SpaceHobo> Katana: you're a real winner in here, aincha 10:25 < Katana> yeah 10:26 < Katana> that UA gets 403'd instantly 10:26 -!- w7u64xi7 [~w7u64xi7@41.234.55.57] has left #linode [Leaving] 10:26 * SpaceHobo starts using that UA 10:29 < SpaceHobo> Your User Agent: Lynx/2.8.7rel.2 libwww-FM/2.14 SSL-MM/1.4.1 OpenSSL/1.0.0a 10:29 < SpaceHobo> good enough 10:30 < akerl> Lynx? Looks shady to me. 10:30 * akerl blocks 10:31 < rnowak> I don't like the number 2, I block all UAs with it 10:31 < thelongmile> ... 10:32 < thelongmile> How do you feel about the number 22? 10:32 < rnowak> I've had a lot of therapy and I can manage it these days 10:32 < thelongmile> So what about the 5? That freaks me out, it's like a backwards 2 10:32 < rnowak> that's silly 10:37 < Katana> lovely 10:37 < Katana> out of all the requests made by baidu 10:37 < Katana> not once has robots.txt been requested 10:42 < Perihelion> It never is :P 10:42 < Perihelion> That's why I try to block them when I can 10:43 -!- Taranli_Maren [~taranli@li252-11.members.linode.com] has joined #linode 10:44 -!- vynsynt [~Adium@216.207.88.98] has joined #linode 10:44 < Bullrush> Must I do anything special to my linode before reboot, if my ubuntu upgrade installed a new kernel? 10:45 -!- vynsynt [~Adium@216.207.88.98] has left #linode [] 10:45 < akerl> Bullrush: Unless you have pv_grub configured, kernels on your disk image mean nothing 10:46 < Bullrush> Excellent. 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Hits: 108634 of 137907 (π ≈ 3.150935050432538 - 0.009342396842745). http://π.hoopycat.com/ 11:53 < squircle> !botsnack 11:53 < linbot> thanks, squircle! 12:00 -!- eagles0513875 [~kvirc@c178-234.i02-5.onvol.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:01 -!- eshlox [eshlox@almawet.com] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 12:01 -!- eshlox [eshlox@almawet.com] has joined #linode 12:01 -!- eshlox [eshlox@almawet.com] has quit [] 12:01 -!- eshlox [eshlox@almawet.com] has joined #linode 12:01 -!- sebnash [~sebnash@80.87.25.146] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:01 -!- sebnash [~sebnash@80.87.25.146] has joined #linode 12:03 -!- zack_ [~zack@mobile-166-205-137-175.mycingular.net] has joined #linode 12:08 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-68-44-68-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 12:15 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-68-44-68-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: devcomp] 12:15 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-68-44-68-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 12:15 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-68-44-68-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [] 12:16 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-68-44-68-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 12:16 -!- buddyw [crt@pillar.budw.net] has joined #linode 12:19 -!- zibri [zibri@rfc1459.se] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:19 -!- zibri [zibri@rfc1459.se] has joined #linode 12:19 -!- adnc [~akif@77-22-73-193-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #linode 12:21 -!- hipsterslapfight [~ryan@host81-130-62-164.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [] 12:28 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-68-44-68-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: devcomp] 12:30 -!- zack_ [~zack@mobile-166-205-137-175.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: zack_] 12:32 -!- zack_ [~zack@mobile-166-205-137-175.mycingular.net] has joined #linode 12:35 -!- enthdegree [~BitchX@rrcs-96-10-224-195.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #linode 12:38 -!- dfffs [~79362097@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 12:40 -!- dfffs [~79362097@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:41 -!- dfffs [~79362097@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 12:42 < smed_> why does my newark linode keep dropping my ssh connection today? 12:42 -!- dfffs [~79362097@chat.linode.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:43 < smed_> sunofabitch 12:43 < smed_> again. 12:43 -!- Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc18-reig4-2-0-cust124.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #linode 12:43 < rnowak> sorry, my bad 12:43 -!- enthdegree [~BitchX@rrcs-96-10-224-195.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:43 < HedgeMage> rnowak: are you tripping over wires again? 12:43 * HedgeMage ducks 12:44 -!- enthdegree [~BitchX@rrcs-96-10-224-195.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #linode 12:44 < smed_> I proxy my web through it....so it's real noticable. 12:44 < rnowak> HedgeMage: yep, well, to be fair, I just unplug them at random, see who comes in whining 12:44 < rnowak> s/fair/honest/ 12:45 < smed_> I"m running 'vmstat 1' in a putty window to keep activity flowing 12:45 -!- vodka [~rswarts@93-125-149-150.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #linode 12:45 < rnowak> oO 12:45 < retro|blah> smed_: Post an mtr 12:45 < smed_> I'm checking my routers and stuff internally here first... 12:45 < smed_> my bitching could me my own problem... 12:48 -!- jmulder [~jmulder@f38106.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #linode 12:48 < smed_> I can't even keep the terminal open long enough to get mtr installed... 12:48 < retro|blah> Uh no, mtr from YOUR OWN machine to your Linode 12:48 < smed_> yes....working on that too. 12:49 < smed_> wanted to try it in reverse first...I only have a couple of Linux servers here in house. 12:49 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-68-44-68-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 12:50 < smed_> where can I paste that mtr too? 12:50 < retro|blah> !p 12:50 < linbot> http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel 12:51 -!- kenichi [~kenichi@c-24-20-239-11.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #linode 12:52 < linbot> New news from forums: Easy install with cPanel/Webmin or similar with Joomla in Web Servers and Web App Development 12:52 < smed_> http://p.linode.com/6274 12:52 < smed_> what do we think about that? 12:53 < smed_> vmsat 1 seems to hold putty session open long enough to prevent it from dropping.... 12:53 -!- David`` [~ui@85.17.20.219] has joined #linode 12:54 < retro|blah> Go to PuTTY config, under Connection, set "Seconds between keepalives" to a nonzero number. Also enable TCP keepalives maybe 12:56 < smed_> k - done. 12:56 < smed_> although I've not had to worry about that in the past. 12:56 < smed_> I'm still wondering why so many Comcast hops.... 12:57 -!- danblack [~danblack@ppp121-45-218-151.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net] has joined #linode 12:58 < smed_> the "worst" column for that first hop has really deteriorated now that mtr has been running for a few minutes... 12:59 < retro|blah> I'd be most interested in what the last line is doing really 12:59 < smed_> actually the 2nd hop...really crappy now...showing 13471 12:59 < smed_> and .7 packet loss. 13:01 -!- sebnash [~sebnash@80.87.25.146] has quit [Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com] 13:01 -!- hipsterslapfight [~ryan@client-82-26-190-166.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #linode 13:01 < retro|blah> You can close the mtr now :P Was trying to rule out some host issue with that really 13:01 < smed_> well adjusting keep-alives didn't work, I had 2 sessions close 13:01 < smed_> yeah, I know but now I'm watching it because I think I might need to open a ticket with comast. 13:02 -!- triplei [~dank@d205-250-46-50.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #linode 13:02 < smed_> and I have no other complaints here internally....of course I'm the only one using ssh. 13:04 -!- VladGh [~vladgh@ip98-163-224-123.no.no.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:05 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-68-44-68-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:07 -!- l1nuxman [~l1nuxman@CPE0021296828b2-CM00111ae6f860.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #linode 13:10 < smed_> my ssh sessions to another non-linode host are holding... 13:10 < smed_> must be something with that route. 13:10 < smed_> I'm unsure why the comcast router hostnames are listed several times for one hop and the hostname varies... 13:11 -!- jmulder [~jmulder@f38106.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:13 -!- bbeausej1 [~Adium@mirage.turbulent.ca] has joined #linode 13:14 -!- lollercaust [~paper@85.Red-83-41-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #linode 13:15 -!- zack_ [~zack@mobile-166-205-137-175.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: zack_] 13:18 -!- bbeausej [~Adium@mirage.turbulent.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19 < goose> Directly through my modem: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1760432723.png 13:19 < goose> Through my VPN: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1760433490.png 13:20 < goose> I do love that it says that my ISP is "Linode, LLC" though 13:20 < goose> and that as an ISP, Linode is doing better than Comcast :p 13:21 -!- seanh-ansca [~Adium@173-8-133-236-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #linode 13:21 -!- hfb [~hfb@pool-98-112-208-90.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #linode 13:25 * Katana gives up trying to explain to a wordpress user how Wordpress has had a giant gaping vulnerability left open for several years running 13:26 < Katana> hint: it's the same reason everyone gives akerl crap about Arch's package management. 13:28 < npmr> Katana, exploit it, then the user will understand 13:29 < akerl> Katana: Say what? 13:30 < npmr> smed_, multiple hostnames appearing at the same hop (at least in mtr, anyway) indicate one of two things, either the route is in flux as the routers renegotiate routes through a changing network topology, or there are multiple paths through the network and the routers are smart enough to balance traffic across them 13:31 < Katana> npmr: dns poisoning isn't my forte 13:31 < Katana> akerl: "dat code signing" 13:31 < smed_> nmpr - exactly. 13:32 -!- pjkh [~Adium@c-67-168-9-75.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:32 < smed_> it looks like there was some rerouting.... 13:32 < npmr> that's really more of a dns vulnerability than a wordpress vulnerability 13:32 < smed_> I've seen that before, but not with my circuit here before. 13:33 < Katana> npmr: no it isn't - if dns were poisoned, you shouldn't be able to infect wordpress systems by faking an update and social engineering admins into updating 13:33 < Katana> npmr: this is why package signing exists on distros 13:33 < npmr> Katana, counterpoint: if dns weren't poisonable..... 13:33 * akerl poisons all the dns 13:33 * rnowak poisons akerl 13:33 < Katana> npmr: It isn't, though 13:34 -!- vodka [~rswarts@93-125-149-150.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [Quit: La la la la la...] 13:34 < Katana> npmr: it's happened before, it'll happen again. it's more about MITM than anything 13:34 < Katana> Modifying the wordpress update in-flight is possible, and therefore it's a problem 13:34 < synapt> I don't know about DNS poisoning, but MitM attacks with wordpress updates have been generally theoretically accepted since they use no sort of secure updating 13:34 < synapt> or did they finally? 13:34 < npmr> Katana, use dnssec and a verifying resolver, use ssl... 13:35 < Katana> npmr: But they don't. :) 13:35 < Katana> synapt: I don't think they do at all 13:35 < synapt> then yeah, still possible 13:35 < Katana> I know there's now a way to do code-signing with php apps 13:35 < rnowak> tl;dr it is horseshit 13:35 -!- zack_ [~zack@207.239.83.62] has joined #linode 13:36 -!- Bhavicp [Alex@124-197-40-204.callplus.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:37 < synapt> Katana: Closest they could get is showing the sums of the tarball I suppose, but without a secure connection that'd be just as vulnerable really 13:37 -!- Bhavicp [Alex@124-197-40-204.callplus.net.nz] has joined #linode 13:37 -!- noahhendrix [~noahhendr@129.237.222.129] has joined #linode 13:37 < Katana> synapt: phar + openssl signing :) 13:38 < noahhendrix> Does anyone have a second to give me advice on setting up multiple applications with passenger, rvm on nginx? 13:39 -!- squircle [~squircle@2001:470:1d:647:cabc:c8ff:fee7:8bb7] has left #linode [] 13:39 -!- squircle [~squircle@2001:470:1d:647:cabc:c8ff:fee7:8bb7] has joined #linode 13:41 -!- w7u64xi7 [~w7u64xi7@41.234.55.57] has joined #linode 13:41 < squircle> quick question: I'm trying to dump some HTML pages in plaintext using elinks, and `file` says it's UTF-8, but (for example) "secrétaire" is showing as "secrétaire"... am I doing something wrong? 13:41 -!- goose [~goose@glados.ext3.net] has quit [Quit: Staying alive can kill you, it's taken years off of my life.] 13:42 < rnowak> is your viewer reading it as utf8? 13:42 < squircle> well it's vim, so i'd assume so... 13:42 < squircle> although i have no idea how to use vim 13:42 < squircle> and it shows up like this in nano too 13:43 -!- flashingpumpkin [~alen@host81-136-167-178.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:43 < rnowak> try: set enc=utf-8 13:43 -!- Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc18-reig4-2-0-cust124.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43 -!- w7u64xi7 [~w7u64xi7@41.234.55.57] has quit [] 13:43 < rnowak> if your terminal is set up for utf8, it should magically work 13:43 < squircle> no change 13:44 < squircle> "9  - moi-même, Konrad von Finckenstein, président. Je présiderai" 13:44 < squircle> if these transcripts were in english, I wouldn't be having this problem :-/ 13:44 < rnowak> is your terminal set up for utf8? 13:44 < squircle> should be 13:44 < squircle> i can enter accented characters and stuff fine 13:44 < Katana> $charset? 13:44 -!- enthdegree [~BitchX@rrcs-96-10-224-195.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:44 -!- goose [~goose@glados.ext3.net] has joined #linode 13:45 < squircle> not set 13:45 < Katana> what is the damn var 13:45 * Katana goes digging 13:45 < squircle> LANG=en_US.UTF-8 13:45 < Katana> hmmmm. 13:45 < rnowak> are you running it in screen? 13:45 < squircle> that should be en_CA >:( 13:45 < squircle> yes, screen 13:45 < rnowak> is screen told to do utf8? 13:45 * squircle shrugs 13:46 < hawk> squircle: Also, what terminal? 13:46 < squircle> dunno 13:46 < squircle> Terminal.app (OS X) 13:46 < rnowak> try pasting in some japanese or chinese or whatever ;p 13:46 < squircle> yep, Terminal.app is set to UTF-8 13:46 < rnowak> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana 13:47 < squircle> I can enter in é˚∆å˙ƒßå okay (random keyboard bashing) 13:47 -!- noahhendrix [~noahhendr@129.237.222.129] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:47 < squircle> is elinks doing something wrong? 13:47 < squircle> rnowak: that string pastes fine 13:47 < rnowak> tried wgeting a page and see if it works that way? 13:48 < rnowak> if it does, elinks might be doing something funky, I've not used it so can't say 13:48 < squircle> apparently it's an updated lynx clone 13:48 -!- danblack [~danblack@ppp121-45-218-151.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:48 < squircle> it shows fine if I wget it 13:49 < squircle> so I guess I should ask... what's another way to convert a web page to plaintext? 13:49 < rnowak> To use ELinks 0.11 on a UTF-8 terminal, you should instead enable UTF-8 I/O via the Setup -> Terminal options dialog box, and choose a charset from Setup -> Character set. This limitation has been removed in ELinks 0.12pre1. 13:49 < rnowak> guess that doesn't apply though 13:50 < squircle> ELinks 0.12pre5 13:50 < squircle> nope 13:51 < rnowak> well, w3c can do it too 13:52 -!- lollercaust [~paper@85.Red-83-41-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:52 < Katana> argh, I can't figure out where WP pulls updates from 13:52 < Katana> the actual URL for packages 13:54 -!- nviror [~nviror@182.68.58.235] has joined #linode 13:55 * Katana idea 13:55 -!- nviror [~nviror@182.68.58.235] has left #linode [] 13:57 -!- danblack [~danblack@ppp121-45-221-254.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net] has joined #linode 13:58 -!- hfb_ [~hfb@pool-98-112-208-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #linode 13:59 < squircle> even when I explicitly tell elinks to use utf-8... 13:59 < squircle> >:( 14:00 < Katana> ... 14:00 < Katana> yep. 14:00 < Katana> LOL DOWNLOADING FROM "http://wordpress.org/wordpress-3.3.1-partial-0.zip" 14:00 < mikegrb> lulz 14:01 < squircle> maybe because the page is "charset=iso-8859-1" 14:01 < squircle> grr 14:02 -!- hfb [~hfb@pool-98-112-208-90.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:02 < retro|blah> （╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ 14:02 < squircle> yay! \o/ 14:02 < Katana> ooh ooh me too! 14:02 < Katana> （╯°□°）╯彡 ┻━┻ 14:04 -!- brendon [~bscheinma@8.18.85.7] has joined #linode 14:06 -!- hfb_ [~hfb@pool-98-112-208-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:08 -!- smed__ [~smed@173-12-5-58-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #linode 14:11 -!- smed_ [~smed@173-12-5-58-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14 < smed__> nope - I'm definitely ave issues with my linode 14:14 < smed__> gotta open a ticket. 14:14 < akerl> ? What kind of issues? 14:14 < smed__> messages is full of low-memory error messages... 14:15 < smed__> I'll open a detailed ticket. 14:15 < akerl> You mean like you're OOMing? 14:15 < smed__> yes 14:15 < akerl> That probably means you're OOMing... Not much we can do on our end about that :) 14:15 < smed__> "lowmem_reserve" messages....spewing. 14:16 < smed__> maybe Magento is doing it? 14:16 < smed__> it's just a test-bed with no usage? 14:16 < smed__> I was going to reboot first to see if that helps. 14:16 < akerl> Check out htop and see what's going on? 14:16 < rnowak> I personally prefer guessing, it keeps things much more interesting 14:17 < smed__> come-on...I"m at work, trying to "do work" too.... 14:17 -!- vodka [~paper@85.Red-83-41-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #linode 14:17 -!- alexgordon [~alexgordo@host-2-99-34-122.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: ( chocolatapp.com )] 14:17 < smed__> my diagnostics are going slowly. 14:18 -!- orville [~orville@cpe-184-59-80-117.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:18 -!- alexgordon [~alexgordo@host-2-99-34-122.as13285.net] has joined #linode 14:18 < smed__> I do not have htop installed...I use old fashioned top. 14:18 < rnowak> I'm at home, eating delicious liqueur filled chocolates, they are delicious 14:19 < SleePy> Nice thing about wireless keyboards is that they are out of your way easily and without a cable mess :D 14:19 < akerl> rnowak: share kthx 14:19 < rnowak> ok 14:19 -!- advion [~advion--@cpe-74-71-55-117.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 14:21 < smed__> well, that'll teach me. 14:21 < smed__> Magento is a pig. 14:22 -!- cro [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:22 < smed__> now I think it's time for lunch. 14:22 < smed__> tx -for the help/advice 14:22 -!- smed__ is now known as smed 14:23 -!- gorm [~jim@66.228.47.170] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:23 < rnowak> np, glad to be of help 14:23 < smed> usually my server isn't doing much....today was indeed, different. 14:23 < rnowak> all it takes is one bad configuration to bring down the castle 14:24 < rnowak> bad applications help too 14:25 < smed> some mysql queries must have got hung-up, high memory usage and lots of swapping. 14:27 < smed> I like the pretty graphs on the dashboard 14:32 < squircle> how would I go about removing the last 34 lines from a bunch of text files (of varying lengths)? 14:34 -!- BarkerJr [~BarkerJr@2001:0:4137:9e76:470:1692:94fd:e9a5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34 -!- hipsterslapfight [~ryan@client-82-26-190-166.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:35 -!- BarkerJr [~BarkerJr@2001:0:4137:9e76:470:1692:94fd:e9a5] has joined #linode 14:37 < rnowak> squircle: sed, $-33,$d 14:38 < squircle> so sed -e '$-33,$d'? 14:38 < rnowak> ehm, ed 14:38 -!- Steve^ [~steve@host-89-240-42-118.as13285.net] has joined #linode 14:38 < squircle> ed -e '$-33,$d' ? 14:38 < squircle> or... 14:38 -!- David`` [~ui@85.17.20.219] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:38 < squircle> wait 14:38 * squircle checks the man page 14:39 -!- hfb [~hfb@pool-98-112-209-179.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #linode 14:39 < rnowak> sed filters line by line, so not particularly well suited for it, ed would do fine 14:40 < squircle> great, another thing I have to install 14:41 < rnowak> you don't have ed? 14:41 < squircle> nope 14:41 < squircle> not included in the linode ubuntu image, i guess 14:42 -!- JordanMag [~566c43e1@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42 < squircle> rnowak: that just printed 6000 lines of question marks to my terminal 14:43 < squircle> and $-33,$d: No such file or directory 14:43 < rnowak> I didn't tell you to write it as you did, that was your creation 14:43 < squircle> no, i wrote `ed $-33,$d` 14:43 < rnowak> '$-33,$d' | ed - file.txt 14:44 < squircle> rnowak: well i'm piping to and from it 14:44 < squircle> stdin, through ed, stdout 14:46 < squircle> this is all so complicated :( 14:48 < rnowak> src | ed -s '$-33,$d' | dst doesn't work? 14:48 -!- enthdegree [~BitchX@cpe-174-099-054-167.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 14:49 < squircle> nope, just prints lines upon lines of question marks to the terminal 14:49 -!- hipsterslapfight [~ryan@client-82-26-190-166.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #linode 14:49 -!- vodka_ [~rswarts@lkt.hostnet.nl] has joined #linode 14:49 < squircle> which must be stderr because I have stdout going to a file 14:50 -!- thelongmile [~thelongmi@cpc10-ely05-2-0-cust65.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: thelongmile] 14:51 < rnowak> right, that's because it is trying to use the supplied command as input file, welp let's see 14:53 -!- orville [~orville@cpe-184-59-80-117.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 14:53 -!- ngranek [~bigjocker@186.93.174.218] has quit [Quit: ngranek] 14:55 -!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@ool-44c0eda1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #linode 14:55 < akerl> Maybe I'm underthinking this, but why not use head --lines=-34? 14:56 < squircle> yep, that worked 14:56 < squircle> thanks akerl 14:56 < rnowak> too easy 14:57 < skyfaller> Hey folks, I received a "message file too big (state 18)" error while trying to send e-mail to myself on Linode. Do you know where I can change the settings? 14:57 < rnowak> but it looks like ed can't take commands as argument and needs it on stdin, which means you can't pipe stuff to it, which kind of makes sense as it doesn't operate on individual lines only, I guess 15:00 -!- JediMaster [JediMaster@5ad01622.bb.sky.com] has joined #linode 15:00 < squircle> thanks anyways rnowak 15:01 -!- stafamus [~stafamus@host-89-243-36-132.as13285.net] has joined #linode 15:02 < skyfaller> nevermind, I think I found the correct config file in postfix. Thanks for listening while I figured it out myself ;-) 15:03 -!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@ool-44c0eda1.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04 -!- bbeausej [~Adium@mirage.turbulent.ca] has joined #linode 15:04 -!- bbeausej1 [~Adium@mirage.turbulent.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08 -!- Bullrush [~paul@196-215-2-38.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:09 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@r74-195-229-29.stl1cmta01.stwrok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:16 -!- Bartzy [~bar@82.166.148.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:19 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@r74-195-229-29.stl1cmta01.stwrok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #linode 15:19 -!- cro [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has joined #linode 15:22 -!- EriksLV [~EriksLV@88.135.148.122] has joined #linode 15:25 -!- raj` [~raj@c-68-46-138-78.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:25 -!- Bullrush [~paul@dsl-242-147-248.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #linode 15:31 -!- vervain [~vervain@c-24-15-199-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #linode 15:33 -!- fisted [~fisted@xdsl-87-78-81-118.netcologne.de] has joined #linode 15:34 -!- adnc [~akif@77-22-73-193-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:36 -!- zack_ [~zack@207.239.83.62] has quit [Quit: zack_] 15:50 -!- jph98 [~jph98@94-192-232-72.zone6.bethere.co.uk] has joined #linode 15:50 -!- raj` [~raj@c-68-46-138-78.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 15:50 < jph98> hi all, does anyone use a monitoring service to externally monitor their linode instance at all? 15:50 < jph98> mine just died, looks like it died back this morning sometime... 15:50 < jph98> but didn't get an alert on it.. 15:50 -!- raj` is now known as cypha 15:51 < JoeK> pingdom works nice 15:51 < JoeK> free for one check 15:51 < Kyhwana> jph98: died how? Check lish? 15:51 -!- zack_ [~zack@207.239.83.62] has joined #linode 15:54 < jph98> couldn't get on with lish 15:54 < jph98> saw pingdom - very nice... 15:54 < jph98> any tips on working out why the heck it hung? 15:54 < jph98> no web access/ssh access at that time 15:54 < akerl> jph98: What do you mean by "couldn't get on with lish"? 15:55 < jph98> haha... maybe that's my misunderstanding.. 15:55 < jph98> i thought lish was this -> Lish via Ajaxterm Launch Lish Ajax Console 15:55 < akerl> jph98: I'd recommend lish over ssh rather than ajax, but you should still get something 15:56 < akerl> !lish 15:56 < linbot> LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/using-lish-the-linode-shell 15:56 < jph98> Linodes -> Remote Access ->Console Access 15:56 < akerl> Yea, when you pull up lish, what do you see? 15:56 < jph98> i didn't get anything with either.. 15:56 < jph98> ah actually... 15:56 * JediMaster randomly stumbles apon 'jnettop' 15:57 < jph98> looked like it was apache related... not entirely sure what though... 15:57 < JediMaster> zomg, I can actually find out who is hogging the ADSL line now =D 15:57 < jph98> but bit bizarre i couldn't actually SSH onto the box... 15:57 < akerl> jph98: A bunch of "out of memory" lines? 15:57 < jph98> rebooted anyway... 15:57 < jph98> posisibly... 15:57 < jph98> next time I'll grab the output 15:57 < akerl> ... 15:57 < akerl> Sounds like you OOMed, which led to your linode killing things, including apache and ssh 15:58 < jph98> hmm bit bizarre... first time in six months or so... 15:58 < jph98> ok thanks for the help anyways... 15:58 < akerl> Running mpm-prefork/mod_php? 15:59 < jph98> yup 16:00 < EugeneKay> !apropos oom 16:00 < linbot> EugeneKay: oom, subtletoomanyenters, and zomgoom 16:00 < EugeneKay> !oom 16:00 < linbot> http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/memory-networking 16:00 < EugeneKay> Nifty. 16:00 < akerl> jph98: In your apache config, in the prefork section, what is MaxClients set to? 16:00 -!- Craighton [~Craighton@stimson-wired-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com] 16:01 < jph98> 150 currently 16:01 * EugeneKay blinks 16:01 < squircle> :| 16:01 < akerl> Problem: located 16:01 < akerl> Try setting that to 10 or so 16:02 < squircle> wow... 150... 16:04 < Kyhwana> ahaha 16:04 < Kyhwana> yeah 16:07 -!- noahhendrix [~noahhendr@135.56.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #linode 16:07 < jph98> right, changed to 10, bizarre... 16:08 < Kyhwana> Not really 16:08 -!- mariusz [~mks@wsip-72-215-50-194.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:08 < jph98> err yeah it is 16:08 < jph98> not entirely sure why it was 150 originally 16:08 < jph98> but anyways... 16:08 < akerl> that's the apache default 16:09 < jph98> what, 150? 16:09 < akerl> Yup 16:09 < jph98> really... 16:09 < jph98> ok 16:09 < jph98> http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/memory-networking 16:09 < hawk> Without mod_php and stuff like that I would think that 150 is not so crazy 16:09 < jph98> recommends 24 16:09 < akerl> jph98: Rought estimate, how many MB of RAM would you say a PHP process on your Linode uses? 16:09 < jph98> it'd be a complete guess... 16:09 < akerl> Worst case, use your memory limit from php.ini 16:10 < akerl> If (PHP_Memory_Limit * MaxClients) > Available RAM, you're gonna OOM hard under load 16:12 < jph98> so is there a rought guide for setting up a linode in terms of adjusting "sensible defaults" to err :) more sensible defaults? 16:12 < akerl> I prefer the solution of "don't use mod_php", but realistically, you just want to make sure my above equation is balanced 16:13 < akerl> You can adjust PHP's memory limit, Apache's MaxClients, and your total amount of RAM. How you do so depends on what you're running, how much money you want to spend, and your traffic 16:14 < jph98> sure... 16:14 < jph98> well thanks anyways... completely lost track of traffic with this one... 16:14 < jph98> educational anyways... 16:15 -!- Bartzy [~bar@82.166.200.207.fix.netvision.net.il] has joined #linode 16:15 -!- AviMarcus [~avi@bzq-79-183-136-179.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #linode 16:19 -!- bbeausej1 [~Adium@mirage.turbulent.ca] has joined #linode 16:20 -!- Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc18-reig4-2-0-cust124.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #linode 16:21 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-68-44-68-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 16:23 -!- rideh [~rideh@99-8-16-147.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode 16:25 -!- bbeausej [~Adium@mirage.turbulent.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25 -!- linville [~linville@sapphire.tuxdriver.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:32 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-68-44-68-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: devcomp] 16:35 < EriksLV> hi 16:37 < EriksLV> what could be a problem that causes high cpu usage for apache processes? 16:37 < EriksLV> php/mysql 16:37 -!- vervain [~vervain@c-24-15-199-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:37 < Kyhwana> EriksLV: load? 16:37 < EugeneKay> What causes wind? 16:37 < EriksLV> :D 16:38 < EriksLV> yeah load average is rocketing 16:38 < EriksLV> I use mpm_itk_prefork and apache php module 16:39 < EriksLV> mysql runs fast, I think there is no problem with it 16:39 < EugeneKay> Tail your logfiels, figure out what page(s) are being hit 16:39 < Kunda> I have a certain user account that when said user creates a file or directory it's does it by default as user:user I'd like to change that default to something else, like user:group How do I do that ? 16:39 < EugeneKay> Fix those pages to require less CPU time. Varnish cache works good for that. ;-) 16:39 < EugeneKay> Kunda - chmod g+s 16:40 < Kunda> looking at man file 16:40 < EugeneKay> This causes new files/dirs created in to be owned by :> 16:40 < EugeneKay> Note that you should NEVER set +s on a file, only dirs. 16:40 -!- VladGh [~vladgh@ip98-163-224-123.no.no.cox.net] has joined #linode 16:40 < EriksLV> EugeneKay: know any oneliner for logfile tailing that groups pages? 16:40 < EugeneKay> tail -f /var/log/httpd/* | grep something? :-p 16:41 < EugeneKay> I split logfiles per-vHost 16:41 < EriksLV> ok, I'll think of smth 16:42 < EriksLV> thanks EugeneKay 16:42 < Kunda> EugeneKay, awesome 16:42 < Kunda> EugeneKay, what happens if you +s a file ? 16:42 < EugeneKay> Monkeys will fly out of your butt and consume your mortal soul 16:42 * Kunda hides 16:43 -!- JediMaster [JediMaster@5ad01622.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: fnarble] 16:43 < Kunda> seriously 16:43 < EugeneKay> Read the man page 16:43 < EugeneKay> It explains better than I can 16:44 -!- joshdotsmith [~joshsmith@173-163-32-233-cpennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: joshdotsmith] 16:44 -!- pngwyn [~pngwyn@li254-7.members.linode.com] has joined #linode 16:45 < Kunda> Did a /Monkeys 16:45 < Kunda> Pattern not found (press RETURN) 16:45 < EugeneKay> :-D 16:45 < EriksLV> EugeneKay: is there a way to not log "File does not exist:" in error log? 16:45 < EugeneKay> Look for "SETUID" 16:45 < Kunda> this man page is challenging, i feel i need to have high functioning autism to understand it 16:46 < pngwyn> When I am adding a new linode to my account, Do I choose the datacenter after the linode is added? 16:46 < EugeneKay> pngwyn - yes, you do that at Deploy 16:46 < EugeneKay> EriksLV - proooobably, but I dunno how. 16:47 < EriksLV> ok, I'll google then :D 16:47 -!- stafamus [~stafamus@host-89-243-36-132.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47 < pngwyn> awesome thanks 16:47 -!- pngwyn [~pngwyn@li254-7.members.linode.com] has quit [] 16:48 -!- nisstyre [~nisstyre@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has joined #linode 16:50 -!- vervain [~vervain@c-24-15-199-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #linode 16:50 -!- bradoaks [bradoaks@pilot.trilug.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:58 -!- Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc18-reig4-2-0-cust124.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59 -!- nisstyre [~nisstyre@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:05 -!- w7u64xi7 [w7u64xi7@41.234.86.174] has joined #linode 17:05 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 17:06 -!- smed [~smed@173-12-5-58-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07 < osla> I have always receiving emails with subject "Linode Alert - disk io rate - linode1XXXX" and now I cant access my server from the web 17:08 < akerl> osla: What does lish look like? 17:08 < caker> osla: it's almost certain that your Linode is OOMing 17:08 < caker> !oom 17:08 < linbot> http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/memory-networking 17:09 -!- goose_ [~goose@glados.ext3.net] has joined #linode 17:10 -!- w7u64xi7 [w7u64xi7@41.234.86.174] has quit [] 17:10 -!- w7u64xi7 [~w7u64xi7@41.234.86.174] has joined #linode 17:11 -!- zack__ [~zack@207.239.83.62] has joined #linode 17:11 -!- zack_ [~zack@207.239.83.62] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:13 -!- jph98 [~jph98@94-192-232-72.zone6.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: jph98] 17:15 -!- bradoaks [bradoaks@pilot.trilug.org] has joined #linode 17:16 -!- w7u64xi71 [~i7-OLD@41.234.86.174] has joined #linode 17:16 -!- nisstyre [~nisstyre@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has joined #linode 17:16 -!- w7u64xi7 [~w7u64xi7@41.234.86.174] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:17 -!- goose [~goose@glados.ext3.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20 < w7u64xi71> regarding Nginx ... being newbie is ok to be used? 17:20 -!- brendon [~bscheinma@8.18.85.7] has left #linode [] 17:20 < Kyhwana> sure 17:20 < squircle> yep 17:21 < akerl> All the hipsters <3 nginx 17:21 < EugeneKay> I want a hipster cannon 17:21 -!- vraa [~vraa@c-76-30-135-64.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:21 < w7u64xi71> you advise to go through the library step by step from the earlier beginning ? 17:25 < Kyhwana> yeah 17:25 -!- joshdotsmith [~joshsmith@c-174-60-6-232.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #linode 17:26 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 17:26 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 17:26 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 17:27 -!- yacc [~Adium@c-24-7-32-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #linode 17:27 -!- yacc [~Adium@c-24-7-32-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 17:27 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 17:29 < osla> I get an IO Disk rate error, I am able to only access LISH but not SSH or sites on the server 17:30 < heckman> That may indicate that your Linode is OOMing and has become unresponsive. Were there any errors on your Lish console? 17:30 < osla> I started seeing the error before contents were uploaded to the server. I have installed CentOS6 running apache web server 17:31 -!- cro [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:33 -!- kenichi [~kenichi@c-24-20-239-11.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34 < Kyhwana> osla: whats the console output on LISh look like? 17:34 < Kyhwana> Whats your maxclients in the apache config set to? 17:35 < caker> what is your favorite color? 17:36 < akerl> Ubuntu! 17:36 < KyleXY> caker: red :p 17:36 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38 < Kyhwana> fail 17:40 -!- goose_ is now known as goose 17:41 -!- enthdegree [~BitchX@cpe-174-099-054-167.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: BitchX. A modern, lightweight IRC client.] 17:41 -!- enthdegree [~BitchX@cpe-174-099-054-167.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 17:42 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 17:42 < osla> no errors in LIST 17:42 < akerl> I assume you mean LISH? You just see a prompt? 17:42 < caker> probably because he's rebooted 17:43 < caker> osla: apache? mysql? -- follow this: 17:43 < caker> !oom 17:43 < linbot> http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/memory-networking 17:43 -!- enthdegree [~BitchX@cpe-174-099-054-167.nc.res.rr.com] has left #linode [] 17:44 < osla> I dont see any error when I first login to LISH. like : cat: /proc/sys/crypto/fips_enabled: No such file or directory /etc/rc3.d/S55sshd: line 50: [: too many arguments 17:45 < Kyhwana> osla: have you rebooted already? That would have cleared any errors. You're probably OOMing though. What was your spwa/memory usage before you rebooted? 17:46 -!- noahhendrix [~noahhendr@135.56.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:50 < osla> How do I resolve the issues with IO disk rate exceeded 17:50 < akerl> Depends on what's causing the IO 17:50 < Kyhwana> Stop doing IO 17:50 < caker> ... 17:51 < caker> osla: 17:08 <@caker> osla: it's almost certain that your Linode is OOMing ... 17:43 <@caker> osla: apache? mysql? -- follow this: http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/memory-networking 17:51 < Kyhwana> Well, that would resolve it, wouldn't it? 17:51 < caker> third time now. 17:51 -!- bbeausej1 [~Adium@mirage.turbulent.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:52 < praetorian> these things come in 3's 17:53 < osla> yes I see LISH and am able to log in to LISH 17:53 -!- Edgeman [~edgeman@dyn216-8-128-97.ADSL.mnsi.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53 -!- rammau5 [tehzomb@rammus.tehzomb.info] has joined #linode 17:53 < osla> I have shut down and rebooted still having the same problem 17:53 < rammau5> hey, how do I remove an rDNS entry without replacing it with another one? 17:53 < praetorian> rammau5: enter the ip of the host in 17:54 < praetorian> rammau5: it will cause it to reset 17:54 < rammau5> cool, thanks! 17:54 -!- rammau5 [tehzomb@rammus.tehzomb.info] has quit [] 17:55 < Kyhwana> argh 17:55 < Kyhwana> osla: and whats the error that LISH is showing? again, are you using any swap? use iotop to see what's doing all the IO, etc 17:56 < osla> I would try it out and see what comes out of it 17:56 < squircle> Kyhwana: i don't think it's an "error", I think he/she's just getting the email from lassie about an excessive I/O rate 17:57 < Kyhwana> squircle: ahh, true, could be 17:57 < squircle> Kyhwana: I think they said it 17:57 < osla> mysql is taking about 80% of cpu 17:58 < squircle> Kyhwana: s/he said "I have always receiving emails with subject "Linode Alert - disk io rate - linode1XXXX" and now I cant access my server from the web" 17:58 -!- Edgeman [~edgeman@dyn216-8-128-97.ADSL.mnsi.net] has joined #linode 17:58 < Kyhwana> squircle: oh, that implies that something is hammering it far too hard then and stuff is exploding or it's hitting swap and OOMing. 17:58 < squircle> yep 17:58 -!- zpmorgan [~zpmorgan@cpe-065-188-165-086.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 17:58 < Kyhwana> We don't know which, obviously 17:59 -!- donermachtschoner [46ae2543@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #linode 17:59 < donermachtschoner> hi friends, does linode run something on ports 7070, 30000? 17:59 < Kyhwana> osla: no, disk IO. You need to figure out what's causing the disk IO. As I said, it could be swap, so check your swap/ram usage, otherwise use iotop to see what's doing it 17:59 < squircle> donermachtschoner: on your linode? 17:59 < Kyhwana> donermachtschoner: what? 17:59 < squircle> donermachtschoner: linode doesn't run anything on your linode 18:01 < donermachtschoner> hmm well 18:01 < donermachtschoner> you know, is there any common thing which would be running here 18:01 -!- rideh [~rideh@99-8-16-147.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: rideh] 18:01 < Kyhwana> donermachtschoner: anything you're running on your linode is something you put there 18:01 < Kyhwana> (or someone who hacked your linode put there) 18:01 < donermachtschoner> righto, which is what i'm attempting to find out :) 18:02 < akerl> donermachtschoner: Also, where are you checking from that you see something on those ports? 18:02 < donermachtschoner> i didn't know if linode will come preinstalled with some services (i've never used it myself) 18:02 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02 < donermachtschoner> running nmap vs my friend's server 18:02 < Kyhwana> donermachtschoner: usually just ssh 18:03 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 18:03 -!- Athenon [~Athenon@titanium.uhv.edu] has joined #linode 18:03 < akerl> donermachtschoner: All our distro images are based on that distro's minimal server install. Only thing listening would be ssh 18:04 < donermachtschoner> Discovered open port 80/tcp on censored Discovered open port 21/tcp on censored Discovered open port 554/tcp on censored Discovered open port 30000/tcp on censored Discovered open port 7070/tcp on censored 18:04 < donermachtschoner> so this is not normal? 18:04 < akerl> donermachtschoner: What's the IP? 18:04 < Kyhwana> donermachtschoner: did your friend install stuff on his linode that would open those ports? 18:04 -!- noahhendrix [~noahhendr@135.56.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #linode 18:05 < donermachtschoner> i don't know, he's afk atm i'm just doing what i can without access to it 18:05 < rnowak> oO 18:05 < donermachtschoner> akerl i'd rather not say if he may be compromised 18:05 < akerl> donermachtschoner: PM me? 18:06 < donermachtschoner> what's the issue akerl? 18:06 < donermachtschoner> or what are you thinking :) 18:07 < akerl> It's possible that your local ISP is doing magics on those ports. For instance, when I was on FIOS, any outbound portscans showed whatever their FIOS ports were as opened 18:07 < rnowak> I bet he's still thinking about those delicious liqueur filled chocolates that I had earlier, and he didn't 18:07 < akerl> rnowak: That also 18:07 < Kyhwana> and bacon? 18:07 < mikegrb> mmm bacon 18:08 < akerl> I'd like to run an nmap from a known-good server, so we can rule out weird networking issues 18:08 < rnowak> I, as a fact, did have bacon too. Bacon, corn nibbles and beans, fried on a pan, some spices, and into a tortilla it goes. <3 18:08 < mikegrb> mmm bacon 18:08 < rnowak> glorious day 18:08 * akerl glares 18:08 -!- osla [~29ce0f1b@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08 < donermachtschoner> how did you determine this akerl 18:08 < akerl> Determine what? 18:09 < donermachtschoner> > For instance, when I was on FIOS, any outbound portscans showed whatever their FIOS ports were as opened 18:09 < akerl> nmap showed ports on my own linode that weren't open. I searched and found those are the ports that fios does it's magic on 18:10 < donermachtschoner> ah i see 18:10 * caker grammarsmacks akerl 18:10 * akerl bows his head in shame 18:10 < donermachtschoner> well i guess this will be much simpular when i can have access xD 18:10 -!- Evocore [Evocore@67-61-31-68.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #linode 18:11 < Evocore> hello, i just setup a new linode using a lamp + basic firewall stackscript, and hte only thing ive done so far is set permissions in srv/www/ and tried to restart apache2 and I get this: (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 18:11 < donermachtschoner> sudo? 18:11 < squircle> Evocore: is apache running as root? 18:12 < Evocore> www-data i think 18:12 < squircle> well that's why 18:12 < akerl> Evocore: What user did you attempt to restart apache as? 18:12 < squircle> only root can bind to ports <1024 18:12 < Evocore> i think your right doner... and akerl, i forgot to sudo, let me try that 18:12 < rnowak> starting and running as afterwards are two different matters, and it should indeed run as something that isn't root 18:12 -!- noahhendrix [~noahhendr@135.56.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:13 < Evocore> meh ya your right i didnt sudo 18:13 < donermachtschoner> what rnowak said 18:14 < donermachtschoner> akerl may i pm you 18:14 < Evocore> the rest of it is all default from the stack script, all i did was set some permissions 18:14 < akerl> Go for it :) 18:14 < Evocore> does it sound right /srv/www/* as [user]:developers 18:14 < KyleXY> akerl: Heh, I love how because I visited linode.com I get linode ads everywhere :) 18:14 < rnowak> what is [user]? 18:15 < KyleXY> akerl: 65 cents a day, woo 18:15 < Evocore> patrick 18:15 < rnowak> Evocore: fine, as long as it isn't the same user that the web(/application) server is running under 18:16 < Evocore> will wordpress still be able to write to it? 18:16 < rnowak> you better hope it won't 18:16 < Evocore> how else would it update 18:16 < Kyhwana> s/update/get hacked 18:16 < rnowak> allowing an application to self-modify is a seriously bad move to take, especially on publically accessible services 18:17 < rnowak> publicly, damnit 18:18 < Evocore> so i assume the solution then is to pull down locally update with git and push to it? 18:18 < akerl> Or just manually update on the server... why are you putting wordpress in git? 18:18 < Kyhwana> yep 18:18 < rnowak> that's a far more sensible solution, or just using the source releases 18:18 < Kyhwana> some people use subversion to update it too 18:19 < Evocore> akerl: not sure... i just wanted a repo that had all my submodules that i could push live 18:20 < rnowak> huh, you're not developing *in* the wordpress tree in the repo are you? 18:20 -!- Steve^ [~steve@host-89-240-42-118.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:20 < Evocore> no, just in plugins and themes which are submodules 18:20 < squircle> heckman: <3 18:21 < heckman> <3 18:21 < rnowak> if all you need is deployment, puppet, or chef, or fabric, or bash it up, or anything else you're comfortable with 18:22 < Evocore> i just always tracked it in the repo only because it was easy to deploy, ill check into those 18:23 -!- vodka [~paper@85.Red-83-41-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:23 -!- vodka_ is now known as vodka 18:24 -!- corycollier [~corycolli@8.26.119.250] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:26 < Evocore> what if clients wish to have wordpress automatic updates, whats the next best option for keeping it secure? 18:27 < rnowak> not allowing it, there's no second best option 18:27 < EugeneKay> Don't let clients have wordpress automatic updates. 18:27 < EugeneKay> !php 18:27 < linbot> PHP is a hell of a drug 18:27 < Evocore> do you know of any google articles that talk about the dangers of self updating applications 18:27 < rnowak> google... articles? 18:29 < rnowak> http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbW2jgEDQ4J1nwLVnP_WVJQeXDkhdlF3mtt7P_deaWUq1eOSBuKqSPxCMK 18:29 -!- Bartzy [~bar@82.166.200.207.fix.netvision.net.il] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:29 < Evocore> lol ive been googling but im sure ill come up with something 18:29 < mikegrb> lulz 18:29 < Evocore> what about software that has a CLI for updating? 18:29 < Evocore> i assume thats the same issue since it still needs to write 18:30 < rnowak> wget source release, tar it in, reload php processes, glory to the cli 18:30 < rnowak> obviously you'll make sure to at least check the hash so that it matches the provided on the download page, all you can do 18:31 < Evocore> thanks 18:32 < Kyhwana> does wordpress sign their tarballs? 18:33 < rnowak> afaict, nope 18:34 < Katana> nope 18:34 < Katana> They blind-download 18:34 < Evocore> hmm i just thought of something, without write capabilities how would it write cache files or logs? 18:35 < Katana> cache, APC 18:35 < Katana> logs is the job of the HTTPD, or should be in a database 18:35 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@r74-195-229-29.stl1cmta01.stwrok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:35 < rnowak> s/APC/memcache|redis/ 18:35 < EugeneKay> You grant limited write capabilities to a restrictred(no PHP-execute) directory 18:35 < EugeneKay> This is also where oyu write out assets(js, css, jpg) that need to be modified dynamically 18:36 < Katana> ugh, dynamic assets 18:36 < Katana> images nonetheless, recipe for disaster 18:36 < Evocore> eugenekay: is there a linode tutorial for this are are you just talking chmod? 18:37 < Evocore> or are you* 18:37 -!- youspaze [~29fac33e@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 18:37 < Kyhwana> Katana: ick 18:37 < youspaze> hi 18:37 < EugeneKay> chmod mostly, but you should take steps in your apache/fastcgi config to ensure that you can only execute certain dirs 18:37 < Katana> Kyhwana: i know, i just checked earlier today, it's blind ZIP downloads 18:38 < Katana> Kyhwana: MITM ahoy! 18:38 < Evocore> so www-data needs to be able to write but somewhere in apache i can tell it the folders? 18:38 < Kyhwana> goddamn 18:38 < Kyhwana> not that anyone actually gets signatures, but still 18:38 < Katana> Kyhwana: https://github.com/koto/phar-util *cough* 18:38 * KyleXY pokes heckman 18:38 < Katana> it's a problem already solved, but they don't do a damn thing about it 18:38 < heckman> ? 18:39 < Katana> Kyhwana: also worth noting the file is served via http, not https 18:39 < Kyhwana> hmm, true 18:39 < KyleXY> heckman: PM :p 18:39 -!- Taranli_Maren [~taranli@li252-11.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 11.0/20120201153158]] 18:39 < Katana> heckman: o/ 18:39 < heckman> Hello. 18:39 < youspaze> What is a good linode plan for upto 100 dynamic hits per second (PHP) on a WHM/cPanel CentOS 6 18:40 < rnowak> how is mr heckman doing this fine late afternoon? 18:40 -!- nisstyre [~nisstyre@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:40 < EugeneKay> youspaze - start at 512, work your way upwards as needed. IIRC, cPanel "recommends" 1GB+ of ram 18:40 < squircle> Katana: \o (wasn't going to leave you hanging) 18:41 < Katana> squircle: thanks 18:41 < heckman> Pretty good. Nothing too much crazy going on, yourselves? 18:41 < rnowak> uneventful \o/ 18:42 < Katana> just had to unfreeze/uninstall zipgenius/install 7zip/configure 7zip/refreeze 20 computers, all one by one :\ 18:42 < Katana> i hate windows 18:43 < Kyhwana> apt-get i.. oh 18:43 < Katana> if these were *nix desktop systems, i could just ssh them in a loop and handle all that remotely, and automate it 18:43 < Katana> but NOOOOOO 18:43 < Katana> microsoft slaves ~_~ 18:43 < rnowak> ye there's absolutely no way to do that remotely on windows 18:43 < rnowak> oh wait 18:43 < Katana> rnowak: they're on the crash and burn network 18:44 < rnowak> burn all the things 18:44 < Katana> no deep-freeze console to remotely manage them because they're split out from the rest of the network :( 18:44 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@r74-195-229-29.stl1cmta01.stwrok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #linode 18:44 < Katana> and our division, because we have the comp eng/comp sci classes, is split out from the rest of the campus itself 18:45 < rnowak> I'm not sure why that should matter 18:45 < Katana> I'm not either 18:45 < Katana> the campus network admin set it up that way apparently 18:46 < rnowak> fabulous 18:46 < Katana> from what I know, it's because there were people on our chunk of the network fucking with the rest of the campus 18:46 < Katana> I'm not sure that's something you solve by compartmentalizing the network anyways 18:46 < EugeneKay> Katana - GPO could do that :v 18:47 < Katana> hm? 18:47 < EugeneKay> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816102 18:47 * Katana looks up 18:47 < EugeneKay> 7-Zip is available in msi, GPO it in. 18:47 < EugeneKay> I forget exactly how you uninstall via GPO, but IIRC it's possible. 18:47 < Katana> ah...hah....ah...ha... 18:47 < EugeneKay> Setting default filetype handlers is also possible(.zip-->7Zip) 18:47 < Katana> They run all systems in our divion as admin :( 18:48 < Katana> *division 18:48 < EugeneKay> .....lulz 18:48 < Katana> Anon login 18:48 < Katana> Just, powers up with admin access 18:48 < rnowak> what? 18:48 < Katana> (which is why we have deep freeze too..) >_> 18:48 < Katana> rnowak: I know, I don't get it myself 18:48 < rnowak> if it was a specific lab for fucking about with shit, fine, but ha ha 18:48 < EugeneKay> I'd ask why, but I know why: self-taught windows admin 18:48 < Katana> on the crash and burn network, I understand that, they get into some pretty nitty-gritty stuff 18:49 < Katana> they've got the VMs in there, wireshark, bunch of fun stuff 18:49 < Katana> elsewhere...bleh. 18:50 < EugeneKay> Interesting. Linode hasn't scavenged the rDNS on my old IPv6 pool 18:52 -!- triplei [~dank@d205-250-46-50.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:52 -!- vraa [~vraa@99-20-202-44.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode 18:54 < spade-> How many Linodes are there in a dozen? 18:54 < rnowak> 42 18:54 < rnowak> high density, you see 18:55 < spade-> Wow, that's impressive. 18:55 < auraka> spade-: it is also rnowak's IQ 18:55 < auraka> :-P 18:55 < spade-> ouch 18:55 < rnowak> wow 18:55 < rnowak> don't distract me like that, I've got breathing to focus on 18:57 < spade-> Smoking helps 18:57 -!- noahhendrix [~noahhendr@135.56.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #linode 18:57 < auraka> lets all have a moment of silence for nokia....you were good while you lasted 18:57 < spade-> Nokia is dead? 18:57 < spade-> Rumors! 18:58 < EugeneKay> They died months ago, when they became a Windows shop 18:59 < spade-> I vaguely recall something about MS and Nokia. 18:59 < spade-> Reading something, somewhere. 18:59 < auraka> ya...but now they are going to just go for bottom barrel and chepest parts....one of the reasons people use to buy nokia's is they were built to be solid 19:01 < tkmedia> but but windows phone will make that easier to deal with .... crap hw for crap sw 19:02 < tkmedia> and I am sure some bigs exec got some lovely parting gifts 19:02 < auraka> I hope microsoft starts gaining some market share.....I like comebacks and underdogs....plus apple is getting way too big headed 19:02 < EugeneKay> If you want to see a company purposefully self-destructing, look at HP 19:02 < EugeneKay> It's hilarious 19:02 < auraka> or yahoo 19:02 < EugeneKay> Nah, they're just stuck in 1998 19:03 < auraka> hp is pretty amusing ..... they keep picking crap CEOs 19:03 < tkmedia> cuz they want to party .... likes it 1999 19:03 < Katana> i for one do NOT welcome our fruity overlords 19:03 < auraka> and now their entire consumer line is "Imitate Apple" 19:03 < EugeneKay> At least Dell is still Delling along 19:04 < auraka> ya....and stuck 19:04 * Katana looks around lab, sees nothing but dells 19:04 < Katana> ...lease with dell. :\ 19:04 < auraka> no dell ultrabook.....their build quality is declining....and someone convinced them they need to be like HP..... 19:04 < auraka> so now...they are going down the same path 19:05 -!- noahhendrix [~noahhendr@135.56.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:05 -!- charmander [73bcf4bf@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #linode 19:06 -!- cypha [~raj@c-68-46-138-78.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07 < charmander> hi 19:07 < Perihelion> Squirtle I choose you! 19:07 -!- youspaze [~29fac33e@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07 < charmander> is it true that if i sign up for 24 months and quit after a month, i get 23 months credit back? 19:08 < auraka> it depends....do you pan on doing that? 19:08 < auraka> plan 19:08 < bob__> even if it was hopefully you wouldn't do that, sounds like it'd be a lot of excessive merchant fees for linode 19:09 < Kyh> and you get charged a refund fee 19:09 < auraka> and ticketmaster fees 19:10 < auraka> charmander: in all honesty....yes I believe you can do so....but it doesn't get refunded to your card 19:10 < auraka> it gets reunded to your linode account 19:10 < auraka> so you can't just like pull it out 19:10 < rnowak> there's a 5 USD administration fee to do so 19:10 < auraka> if you ask nicely they may let you do so 19:10 < charmander> ah 19:11 < auraka> rnowak: maybe for you *shrug* 19:11 < rnowak> auraka: oh? it has been mentioned here many times 19:11 < charmander> i read $5 refund fee on TOS too, dont see any other fees 19:11 < auraka> ahh...must be something newer...i hadn't been charged it or didn't realize i was 19:11 < charmander> is credit transferrable to another customer? 19:12 < auraka> charmander: I appreciate you thinking of me 19:12 < charmander> ;) 19:12 < rnowak> aurakachu, I choose you 19:13 -!- cro [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has joined #linode 19:14 < auraka> charmander: I'm not sure....those questions may be good to send to sales/support 19:14 < auraka> rnowak: I'm not some pokeprostitute.....you don't get to chose me 19:14 < auraka> I chose whoever I please 19:14 < rnowak> nop 19:15 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-76-116-121-110.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 19:17 < CaptObviousman> I choose ... an endless slurpee machine stocked with coke and cherry flavors 19:18 -!- DephNet[Paul] [~Paul@host-92-27-204-46.static.as13285.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18 < CaptObviousman> and a pony 19:21 -!- cro [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:22 < EugeneKay> !refund 19:22 < linbot> EugeneKay: (refund ) -- Alias for "You can have unused credit refunded from your Linode account to your credit card by filing a ticket. There is a $5 administrative fee.". 19:22 < EugeneKay> Derp 19:23 < EugeneKay> I always forget the "echo" on linbot 19:23 < Katana> ...five arguments? 19:23 < Katana> oh 19:23 < Katana> ha 19:23 < EugeneKay> !refund 19:23 < linbot> EugeneKay: (refund ) -- Alias for "echo You can have unused credit refunded from your Linode account to your credit card by filing a ticket. There is a $5 administrative fee.". 19:23 < EugeneKay> Wtf 19:23 < EugeneKay> Oh, the dollars 19:23 < Katana> backslash the $? 19:23 < Jonis> came across this one today, had a good laugh. http://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html 19:24 -!- yacc [~Adium@adsl-75-6-253-139.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode 19:25 < EugeneKay> Katana - had to do it as "$"5 19:26 -!- Eyecu [~gold@CPE204e7f1bd8ae-CM0011e6ee19e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26 -!- Eyecu [~gold@CPE204e7f1bd8ae-CM0011e6ee19e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #linode 19:27 < charmander> does that mean $5 to request refund and another 5 to convert to credit card? 19:27 -!- hfb [~hfb@pool-98-112-209-179.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:27 -!- yacc [~Adium@adsl-75-6-253-139.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 19:28 < bob2> file a ticket and find out 19:32 -!- AviMarcus [~avi@bzq-79-183-136-179.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:33 < Katana> I doubt it'd be $10 total 19:33 -!- tty234 [telex@anapnea.net] has joined #linode 19:38 -!- tty234 [telex@anapnea.net] has quit [] 19:48 -!- bbeausej [~Adium@modemcable158.118-22-96.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #linode 19:49 -!- cro [~Adium@mountainviewbc.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #linode 19:49 -!- hipsterslapfight [~ryan@client-82-26-190-166.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 19:51 -!- devcomp [~devcomp@c-76-116-121-110.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: devcomp] 19:54 -!- cro1 [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has joined #linode 19:54 < Katana> i just had to tell two different professors to get their coffee away from the lab machine they're sitting at. 19:54 < Katana> （╯°□°）╯彡 ┻━┻ 19:55 < Katana> no wonder nobody ever does it 19:56 < Katana> none of the instructors seem to set a damn example 19:57 -!- kronos003 [~kronos003@207.73.130.149] has joined #linode 19:57 -!- cro [~Adium@mountainviewbc.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:01 -!- zack__ [~zack@207.239.83.62] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:01 -!- cro [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has joined #linode 20:02 -!- piney0 [~piney@pool-70-111-63-142.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04 -!- dwfreed_ is now known as dwfreed 20:07 -!- cro1 [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:09 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@109.206.106.75] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:11 -!- piney0 [~piney@pool-70-111-63-142.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #linode 20:12 -!- yacc [~Adium@adsl-75-6-253-139.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode 20:13 < dzho> professors are like that 20:13 < dzho> a lot 20:15 < Kyhwana> Katana: haha 20:15 -!- kronos003 [~kronos003@207.73.130.149] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:16 -!- zack_ [~zack@207.239.83.62] has joined #linode 20:17 < Kellin> Katana: Powershell or VBScript? 20:18 < Kellin> Katana: Hah: that was from over an hour ago. was in response to unfreeze/refreeze Win installations 20:18 -!- kronos003 [~kronos003@207.73.130.149] has joined #linode 20:18 < dwfreed> sysprep FTW 20:18 -!- tome [~tome@99-73-90-71.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode 20:19 < Kyhwana> Hmm, new intel 520 looks like it's teh r0x0rz 20:20 < Kellin> Kyhwana: yeah, those new drives look pretty good. 20:20 < ajmitch> still a little expensive to replace the hard drive in my laptop 20:21 -!- cro1 [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has joined #linode 20:21 -!- userme [~userme@c-76-116-121-110.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 20:21 -!- squircle [~squircle@2001:470:1d:647:cabc:c8ff:fee7:8bb7] has quit [Quit: squircle] 20:22 < tome> Hi all, In the past I've read about setting up private network interfaces on linodes so they can communicate without cost within the same datacenter. I can't seem to find docs what I need to do to set that up. Is that still a recommended way for linodes in the same datacenter to coordinate? 20:22 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@109.206.106.75] has joined #linode 20:22 < Kyhwana> Well, maybe.. depends how rich you're feeling ajmitch. And how much your HDD is teh sux0rz 20:22 < bob2> !static 20:22 < linbot> When an IP address is added to or removed from a Linode, the Linode must be rebooted in order for the changes to take effect in Linode's architecture. Additionally, DHCP will only provide one IP to that Linode; when using more than one IP address (including private), a static configuration must be used: http://bitl.in/uok 20:22 < bob2> tome, ^ 20:22 < bob2> tome, (and yes) 20:22 < bob2> though ipv6 within the same dc is not metered, so that's an option too 20:23 < dwfreed> I imagine that link points to the library static ip guide, but I can do this anyway 20:23 < tome> thanks so much, I missed the Private/Lan Network info in there. Everything is clear now. Too bad about needing to reboot : ) 20:23 < dwfreed> !library static IP 20:23 < ajmitch> Kyhwana: my hard drive is horribly slow, but 320GB 20:23 < linbot> dwfreed: 1. Linux Static IP Configuration - http://library.linode.com/networking/configuring-static-ip-interfaces | 2. Using Apache for Proxy and Clustering Services on CentOS 5 - http://library.linode.com/web-servers/apache/proxy-configuration/proxy-and-clustering-services-centos-5 | 3. Using Apache for Proxy and Clustering Services on Fedora 14 - http://library.linode.com/web-servers/apache/proxy- (1 more message) 20:24 -!- cro [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24 < bob2> is the reboot thing 'fixed' for new nodes? 20:25 < dwfreed> bob2: what do you mean? 20:26 < Kyhwana> ajmitch: do you need all that space? 20:26 -!- ZeeO [~Joel@142-165-14-101.msjw.static.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #linode 20:29 -!- nisstyre [~nisstyre@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has joined #linode 20:30 < bob2> dwfreed, does one still need to reboot to enable private net/ipv6 on nodes provisioned in the past N months 20:30 -!- EriksLV [~EriksLV@88.135.148.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31 -!- karstensrage [~karstensr@c-67-174-201-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #linode 20:31 < dwfreed> bob2: I think so; I just add the private IP before first boot; and all new nodes in IPv6 enabled datacenters already get an IPv6 address 20:32 -!- tome [~tome@99-73-90-71.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32 -!- kronos003 [~kronos003@207.73.130.149] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:34 -!- blindwaves [~blindwave@bb219-75-55-224.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:34 -!- orudie [~Paul@ool-4575bb41.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #linode 20:35 -!- kronos003 [~kronos003@207.73.130.149] has joined #linode 20:38 -!- EriksLV_ [~EriksLV@88.135.148.122] has joined #linode 20:38 -!- smed [~smed@ool-18bdf657.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #linode 20:39 -!- smed is now known as smed_ 20:42 -!- dubenste1n [~dubenstei@46.130.94.158] has joined #linode 20:43 < ajmitch> Kyhwana: lots of VMs, plus plenty of junk - of course I need it all 20:43 < Kyhwana> heee 20:44 < dwfreed> I'm running out of space on my 250GB drive; need more space for games 20:44 < ajmitch> what I may do is move a bit of that to the other hard drive in the laptop 20:44 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@109.206.106.75] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@109.206.106.75] has joined #linode 20:45 < ZeeO> what free shopping cart do you guys suggest opencart? 20:45 -!- dubenstein [~dubenstei@199.192.241.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46 < Kyhwana> I shuffle around games in my steamcache on my 160GB SSD/HDD as I play them, usually 20:47 < bob2> i suggest outsourcing 20:47 < bob2> since a) paypal sucks b) pci compliance sucks even more 20:48 < dwfreed> and b1) you can be PCI compliant, and still be hacked 20:49 < bob2> true 20:49 -!- kronos003 [~kronos003@207.73.130.149] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:51 -!- tty234_ [telex@anapnea.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:53 -!- TheBadShepperd [xelda@galaxy.8bitrebellion.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54 < Evocore> ZeeO not free but lemonstand is pretty robust its personally what I use 20:56 -!- noob [~47a33ea6@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode 20:57 < noob> hello 20:57 -!- noob is now known as Guest1982 20:58 -!- Guest1982 [~47a33ea6@chat.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59 -!- EriksLV_ [~EriksLV@88.135.148.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59 < linbot> New news from forums: Auto-import Google Apps MX records in Feature Request/Bug Report 21:01 -!- seanh-ansca [~Adium@173-8-133-236-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:06 < linbot> New news from forums: Disconnected Line graph in General Discussion 21:07 < tkmedia> ZeeO: i use ecwid 21:07 < tkmedia> free / $17 21:08 -!- crimbox [~Adium@ppp112-24.static.internode.on.net] has joined #linode 21:08 < crimbox> i just got an automated email from linode saying "Your Linode, linode143612, has exceeded the notification threshold (1000) for disk io rate by averaging 1039.22 for the last 2 hours." 21:08 < crimbox> what does that mean exactly? 21:09 < imMute> crimbox: that means you setup a notification threshold, your linode went over that threshold, and linode is now notifying you 21:09 < crimbox> what does "disc io rate" mean? 21:10 < imMute> the rate at which your linode accesses the disk 21:10 < imMute> reading and writing to files, for instance. 21:10 < crimbox> my servers get hardly any traffic.. 21:10 < crimbox> my websites on my linode 21:11 < imMute> that threshold includes swap IO, so if your box starts swapping, that'll happen too 21:11 < imMute> if you aren't expecting the load, you might want to investigate whether your box got hacked 21:11 < crimbox> the disk io graph shows 2 spikes in io rate and swap io 21:12 -!- Evocore [Evocore@67-61-31-68.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [] 21:12 < Kyhwana> Then you're swapping, you might want to find out whats doing that 21:13 < tkmedia> setti? 21:15 < Kyhwana> ? 21:15 < crimbox> how do i find out whats doing the swapping? 21:16 < imMute> thats actually a good question. probably the process that's using alot of CPU and memory. top will show you those 21:17 -!- wkl [~wkl@61.135.152.207] has joined #linode 21:18 < crimbox> looks like citadel is using 100% spu... 21:18 < crimbox> cpu* 21:18 < crimbox> i tried installing and configuring citadel for email but couldnt get it working so i just left it 21:18 < crimbox> not sure why its still running 21:18 < Kyhwana> thats probably a bad idea 21:19 < crimbox> hmm.. ok. so i should uninstall it? 21:19 < Kyhwana> yes 21:21 < crimbox> i ran the command sudo apt-get —purge remove citadel and it said "couldnt find package citadel" 21:21 -!- noahhendrix [~noahhendr@135.56.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #linode 21:21 -!- noahhendrix [~noahhendr@135.56.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25 < charmander> any idea or guesses as to how 1Gbps is shared? 1Gbps per host, or person, or 20 ppl? 21:25 < Kyhwana> er 21:25 < Kyhwana> per host 21:25 -!- Ghost [~Ghost@210.23.81.164] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:26 < crimbox> Kyhwana: do you know why citadel was using all the cpu? 21:26 < crimbox> what would cause that? 21:26 < heckman> hungry hungry HIPPO 21:27 < imMute> crimbox: misconfigured probably 21:27 < crimbox> also, it wont let me remove some packages cos it says the folder isnt empty 21:28 < crimbox> im using the command dpkg -r citadel-server 21:28 < Kyhwana> crimbox: nfi 21:28 < crimbox> what do you mean? 21:29 < crimbox> oh... 21:31 -!- userme [~userme@c-76-116-121-110.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: userme] 21:33 -!- cypha [~raj@c-68-46-138-78.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #linode 21:33 < crimbox> cool. everything seems to be back to normal 21:34 < crimbox> thanks guys 21:34 -!- Knight [~BOSS@snubby.user.oftc.net] has joined #linode 21:35 < lsabota> !vend 21:36 * tkmedia vends a smelly trout 21:36 * lsabota glares at linbot 21:36 < lsabota> thank you tkmedia 21:37 < Perihelion> !vend 21:37 < Perihelion> Bah, since when do you have to be registered? 21:37 < akerl> That was murdered due to over-vendation 21:37 * lsabota vends a diet dr pepper 21:37 < Perihelion> I hate you. 21:37 < lsabota> NO! 21:37 < Perihelion> Not you, akerl. 21:37 < Perihelion> I love you <3 21:37 < Perihelion> Let's be friends. 21:37 < akerl> Don't look at me! I didn't murder the vend-ness 21:37 < stan_theman> i akerl 21:38 < Perihelion> akerl: Maybe not, but you've ruined my evening. 21:38 < akerl> :< 21:38 < GLaDOSDan> :( 21:41 -!- mode/#linode [+o lsabota] by heckman 21:41 -!- mode/#linode [+o stan_theman] by heckman 21:41 < heckman> <3 21:41 < Perihelion> pfft 21:41 < lsabota> ty heckman 21:41 < Perihelion> Way to ruin their superlurking 21:42 -!- mode/#linode [+o brianok] by heckman 21:42 < heckman> <3 21:42 < brianok> <3 21:42 < Kyhwana> omg, fresh meat^W^Wnew employee's 21:42 < psandin> it's an op party 21:42 < heckman> nop, they aren't new. 21:42 < brianok> not new 21:43 -!- mode/#linode [-o heckman] by ChanServ 21:43 -!- atula [~neobreed@c-24-63-134-10.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:43 < lsabota> just opless sometimes 21:43 < psandin> oooooh 21:43 -!- mode/#linode [+o heckman] by ChanServ 21:43 * heckman pets ChanServ 21:43 < Perihelion> ChanServ is my boy 21:44 < Perihelion> We go way back 21:44 -!- atula [~neobreed@c-24-63-134-10.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #linode 21:44 < Kyhwana> aw 21:44 < lsabota> I always pictured ChanServ as a women tbh 21:44 < Kyhwana> lurking, huh? 21:44 < GLaDOSDan> as a women eh 21:44 < akerl> lsabota: Wear your snail with pride! 21:44 < brianok> akerl: :D 21:45 < lsabota> :s/women/woman/ # whew 21:48 -!- triplei [~dank@d205-250-46-50.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #linode 21:48 -!- smed_ [~smed@ool-18bdf657.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49 < Perihelion> :3 21:49 < Perihelion> !rr 21:49 < linbot> Perihelion: *click* 21:49 -!- charmander [73bcf4bf@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 21:49 < imMute> !rr 21:49 < linbot> imMute: *click* 21:49 -!- triplei [~dank@d205-250-46-50.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 21:49 -!- amarc [~amar@cm-static-13-180.telekabel.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50 < EugeneKay> I think he's a crossdresser 21:54 -!- Guspaz [cef886d4@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #linode 21:54 < linbot> New news from forums: The Tomcat no display my site! in Web Servers and Web App Development 21:54 < EugeneKay> ^^ Underwear gnomes 21:55 < praetorian> !rr 21:55 < linbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 21:55 * linbot reloads and spins the chambers. 21:55 < Guspaz> Hey guys, I've got an APC Back-UPS RS 1500 plugged into a box running Ubuntu Server 11.10, and I'm wondering what UPS monitoring daemon to use. There seem to be a bunch... apcupsd, upsd, ups-monitor, NUT, upsmon... Which is the typical solution? 21:56 -!- zack__ [~zack@207.239.83.62] has joined #linode 21:57 -!- zack_ [~zack@207.239.83.62] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:57 -!- praetorian was kicked from #linode by Perihelion [BANG] 21:58 < StevenK> Haha 21:59 < Kyhwana> Guspaz: whichever one works best 21:59 < Kyhwana> (for you) 21:59 < heckman> Guspaz: dunno, I've been looking at the same thing recently to see if I want to do that or just cheat and use my netbook. 21:59 -!- Webhostbudd [~William@isr6632.urh.uiuc.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:00 < Guspaz> Kyhwana: Right, but the question is, which ones are worth looking into, and which are useless PoS :P 22:00 -!- rurufufuss [~rurufufus@115-64-27-246.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #linode 22:02 -!- squircle [~squircle@2001:470:1d:647:cabc:c8ff:fee7:8bb7] has joined #linode 22:02 < Kyhwana> no idea :P you'll just have to see 22:02 -!- crimbox [~Adium@ppp112-24.static.internode.on.net] has left #linode [] 22:03 < Guspaz> It looks like, for an APC UPS, the two big ones are apcupsd and NUT. 22:04 < Kyhwana> yep 22:05 < heckman> I was going to monitor my power at home and rig it up to Nagios. Is my project this weekend 22:06 < heckman> Anywho, out for the evening. Have a good one everyone! 22:11 < Katana> zerotri: o/ 22:12 < Katana> So, uh, curious. Anybody know a decent place where I can find an AC power cord for a laptop power adapter? 22:12 < Katana> The ground prong on mine broke 22:12 < Praefectus> Katana: amazon.com 22:13 < Katana> i should say a legitimate place 22:13 < Praefectus> amazon isnt legit? 22:13 < Praefectus> sparepartswarehouse.com 22:13 < Praefectus> best buy, tigerdirect, newegg 22:14 < Katana> I use it as a last resort, mostly because of the third party sellers >_> 22:14 < zerotri> ohaithere 22:14 < Guspaz> amazon sells a lot of stuff directly themselves, if your'e in the US. 22:14 < Katana> ...newegg'd carry that? hm 22:14 < Praefectus> ^ 22:15 < tparker> monoprice maybe 22:16 * Katana checks old cable 22:17 < Kyhwana> dealextreme ;) 22:17 < Kyhwana> If you can wait 2 weeks 22:17 < Katana> stamped 125v 7A...but all the cables I'm seeing are 13A. 22:17 < squircle> what's with this dealextreme site? i've never ordered from it... but... i can always start. is it like the home of chinese knock-offs? 22:17 < Kyhwana> Katana: whats wrong with 13A? 22:18 < Kyhwana> squircle: yes 22:18 < squircle> nice 22:18 -!- duckydan [~duckydan@97.218.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 22:18 < Kyhwana> I used it to buy cables and random crap from. If I bought them locally it'd cost 10x as much and still be the same chinese stuff anyway 22:18 < Katana> Kyhwana: I'm just wondering if it'll be safe to use 22:18 < Katana> I'm no hardware pro 22:18 < Katana> not by a long shot 22:18 < squircle> i usually use monoprice for that, but they screw canadians for shipping 22:19 -!- Knight [~BOSS@snubby.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:19 < Kyhwana> Katana: nothing i've bought from DX has blown up in any kind of dangerous way yet. :P It's all made in china anyway 22:19 < Katana> Kyhwana: I meant about the 13A 22:20 -!- duckydan [~duckydan@97.218.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 22:21 < Katana> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200113 lol reviews 22:21 < mikegrb> lulz 22:21 < Katana> "it is a cord" - "pro: gives power" "con: is there a con?" 22:23 < Kyhwana> Katana: ? 22:24 < Kyhwana> Katana: Oh, I see 22:24 < Kyhwana> You mean it's rated for 13A as opposed to 7A? That just means you can pull more amps through it 22:24 < Katana> Should be safe to use then 22:24 < Kyhwana> Yep 22:24 < Katana> i'll order it latar 22:24 < Katana> i just got home from work (where the ground prong snapped off in an outlet there) so meh 22:25 < Kyhwana> You abosutely need to make sure it's the same voltage and that whatever you're using to power can handle the same current (amps) as what is going to pull from the wall/wherever 22:25 * Katana nods 22:25 < Katana> current cable's 125V like this one, but rated 7A 22:25 < Kyhwana> So you can use a 13 amp cord/transformer on something that pulls 7. 22:25 < Katana> So, should be fine 22:25 < Katana> yeah 22:25 < Kyhwana> Yep 22:25 -!- alexgordon [~alexgordo@host-2-99-34-122.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: ( chocolatapp.com )] 22:25 < Kyhwana> (Or if you're dodgy, pull 20A through a 10A cable, till it melts) 22:25 < Katana> XD 22:26 < Katana> Luckily, my cr48's cable matches the shape and rating of this one that broke 22:26 < Katana> so i have one to get me through until this new one arrives 22:26 < Katana> squircle: doesn't everyone screw canadians for shipping though 22:26 < Kyhwana> https://picasaweb.google.com/108267713056667823138/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCK39joOXiL_rEQ#5353827254706821746 22:27 < Kyhwana> Is what we did to our building floors power feed 22:27 < Katana> squircle: I mean, canada post isn't exactly the cheapest shipping provider, really >.> 22:27 < Katana> Kyhwana: nicely done. 22:27 < Kyhwana> (with 5 racks of stuff, like 60 workstations and another 40 or so random desktop boxes) 22:27 < Katana> what's that crack in the plastic from 22:27 < Kyhwana> I imagine where it melted/blew up 22:27 < Katana> Damn 22:29 < squircle> Katana: Canada Post doesn't have a media mail rate which fscks everything up, really 22:29 < squircle> Katana: although people shipping stuff from Asia is always super-cheap 22:30 < squircle> Katana: luckily, if I'm shipping something big, I can always just drive across the border 22:30 < squircle> Katana: but for Canada/US shipments, FedEx ground is usually $5-10 cheaper than CanPo 22:31 < Katana> squircle: APO is far cheaper than that, but far less reliable 22:31 < squircle> and the other problem is that Canada's really sparse; we can't have nearly as many hubs as the USPS because there's huge areas where nobody lives 22:31 < squircle> i've never had a problem with canada post, though 22:31 < squircle> but TONNES of problems with the USPS 22:32 < squircle> including the newest one where they delivered a $200 printer to the wrong address, and now the eBay buyer wants a refund, and the investigation... 22:32 < squircle> *sigh* 22:32 < Katana> heh 22:32 < Katana> you think that's bad 22:32 < Katana> APO mail is worse 22:32 < Katana> far worse 22:32 < squircle> now some asshole in puerto rico has a printer that doesn't belong to him 22:32 < squircle> oh, I could imagine 22:32 < Katana> mail goes missing or is misdelivered all the time 22:32 -!- nisstyre [~nisstyre@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:32 < Katana> We had packages bound for iraq ending up in north bay because of a one-digit-off ZIP code 22:33 < squircle> they assign APOs ZIP codes? 22:33 < Katana> yep - bases get a zip code 22:33 < squircle> wouldn't it make more sense to address it to the physical location of the base? 22:33 < squircle> I mean, it must have a Canadian postal code 22:33 < squircle> (for North Bay, anyways) 22:34 < Katana> not really, considering that API also covers all military installations 22:34 < Katana> it's all got to get sorted at once facility 22:34 < squircle> true 22:34 < Katana> err, APO there 22:34 < Katana> and *one 22:34 < squircle> I'm assuming that (for north bay anyways) the USPS hands the mail to Canada post for delivery (?) 22:34 < squircle> obviously not in wartorn, foreign, non-NATO countries 22:35 < Katana> Actually, it's flown up to the airport up in north bay 22:35 < Katana> most of the time, it's "space available" 22:35 < squircle> wow 22:35 -!- Knight [~BOSS@snubby.user.oftc.net] has joined #linode 22:35 < squircle> and you wonder why he USPS has such a huge budget... 22:36 < Katana> not really 22:36 < squircle> well most of their budget is for pensions and stuff 22:36 < Katana> they piggybacked our mail off of commercial flights 22:36 < Katana> room for a little freight? wooo, we'll have mail. 22:36 < squircle> but they pay the airlines a significant amount for that privilege (or so somebody at United told me) 22:36 < Katana> I had a christmas present, a camera, that my parents ordered me one year 22:37 < squircle> whereas Canada Post is the majority shareholder in Purolator, so they get to piggyback on their flights for "free" 22:37 < Katana> it arrived mid january 22:37 < squircle> wow 22:38 < Katana> I felt bad for the packages we got that were supposed to go to the camps in iraq though 22:38 < squircle> :( 22:38 < Katana> because it was space available for us, and we'd have to mail it back...it'd take forever to get there 22:38 < Katana> and usually it'd arrive in north bay in rough shape 22:38 < Katana> boxes would frequently arrive pretty banged up 22:39 < squircle> I will say, for pricing and packaging options, the USPS runs circles around CPC 22:39 < Katana> Indeed 22:39 < squircle> and I have family in Timmins that I ship stuff to occasionally, and it never takes more than two days (from Toronto-ish) 22:39 < Katana> if only the USPS wasn't in the red 22:40 < squircle> so I see no reason why the USPS and CPC couldn't work out some agreement for mail transport, at least to get stuff to canadian APOs faster 22:40 < Katana> probably because the postmaster is getting half a million now in salary 22:40 < Katana> ugh 22:40 < Katana> squircle: beauracracy 22:40 < Katana> working together? HA 22:41 < squircle> i'd say they do a fairly decent job right now 22:41 < squircle> anything I mail from here (expedited parcel, equivalent to priority mail) always gets to Chicago the following morning 22:41 < squircle> and everything I get from the states seems to get here pretty quickly 22:41 < squircle> except first-class mail from the left coast 22:41 < squircle> that takes FOREVER 22:42 < squircle> stuff from hong kong is faster than that 22:42 < Katana> everything from that side of the country takes forever 22:42 < Katana> it's the dope slowing them down 22:42 < squircle> hah 22:43 < squircle> well I can mail a regular letter to my sister in Vancouver in three business days, I see no reason why first-class mail from LA should take three weeks to get to Toronto 22:43 < squircle> *shrug* 22:43 < squircle> but yeah, most places screw Canadians for shipping 22:43 < squircle> that's why I'm so glad I'm only an hour from the border 22:44 < squircle> there are so many places in Niagara Falls and Buffalo that'll hold packages for $5-ish 22:44 < Katana> heh 22:44 < Katana> i can imagine 22:44 < Katana> there was usually trips from north bay to a base in new york though that'd happen occasionally 22:44 < Katana> people would load those guys up with mail 22:44 < Kyhwana> Also http://www.techspot.com/guides/494-hard-drive-pricewatch-thai-floods/ 22:44 < squircle> or when we ordered a huge barbecue, it came from KY, we picked it up in Niagara Falls (NY), paid $7 for them to hold it, and saved $300 in shipping 22:45 < Katana> jesus 22:45 < squircle> (it was a big barbecue) 22:45 < squircle> Niagara Falls NY is such a depressed place 22:45 < squircle> the whole town is in such a state of disrepair, except for everything between the Rainbow Bridge and I-90 22:45 < squircle> (the whole half-kilometer) 22:45 < Katana> think that's bad, go to east st louis 22:46 < Katana> buildings nearly falling down 22:46 -!- zerotri [~zerotri@173-164-162-97-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com] 22:46 < Katana> city doesn't have enough money to tear the things down 22:46 < Katana> (But hey, they just put up spiffy new streetlights...in front of the buildings needed demolished!) 22:46 < squircle> I would go visit, but it's hard for me to go to the 'States 22:47 < squircle> heck, I crossed over from Sarnia on my way to Detroit for a Red Wings game, and they brought me in and questioned me for half an hour 22:47 < squircle> apparently there's a british extremist wanted by INTERPOL (or somebody) with the same name as me 22:47 < Katana> ahaha 22:47 < Katana> wait, Wings game what 22:47 < Katana> did they win 22:47 < Katana> (most important question) 22:47 < squircle> it was a few years ago, playoff game against the stars 22:47 < squircle> they lost 22:47 < Katana> if the wings lost then bad karma on you 22:47 -!- cro1 [~Adium@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:48 < Katana> BAD KARMA 22:48 -!- cro [~Adium@mountainviewbc.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #linode 22:48 < Kyhwana> squircle: hope you're not flying anytime soon 22:48 < squircle> Kyhwana: funny story... 22:48 < Katana> aw crap zerotri just disconned 22:48 < Katana> dammit 22:48 < squircle> my parents and I were going to colorado to ski, and YYZ has US pre-clearance... and they questioned me (as usual), and then DETAINED ME because I had a FSCKING PEAR 22:48 < squircle> A PEAR 22:49 < squircle> i missed my flight and had to take one the next day, meeting my parents down there 22:49 < Katana> pull stem of pear 22:49 < Katana> throw it at their head 22:49 < squircle> because i'd TAKEN THE LABEL OFF 22:49 < Katana> watch panic ensue 22:49 < retro|blah> NO CANADIAN FRUIT 22:49 < squircle> IT WAS AN AMERICAN PEAR 22:49 < Katana> BULLSHIT 22:49 < Praefectus> mmmmm pears 22:49 < squircle> i ate it in front of them 22:49 < Katana> IT'S A RUSSIAN EXPLODING PEAR 22:49 < ajmitch> but it got tainted by being in canada? 22:49 < Kyhwana> ahahaha 22:49 < squircle> they were mad 22:49 < squircle> SO MAD 22:49 < squircle> they said "IT'S EVIDENCE" 22:49 < Kyhwana> california used to have fruit nazis 22:49 < Katana> "umad?" 22:49 < squircle> haha yeah 22:49 < ajmitch> don't you ever dare try & bring anything edible into NZ 22:50 < Kyhwana> ajmitch: unless it's ealed 22:50 < Katana> squircle: "Where I'm from, we call it 'food'" 22:50 < Kyhwana> I get friends to bring back spicey hot cheetos and other stuff when they come back frmo the US 22:50 < squircle> americans are just so paranoid about EVERYTHING 22:50 < Kyhwana> I just tell them to make sure they declare it and they always get through fine 22:50 < squircle> do you have ketchup chips in the 'states? 22:50 < ajmitch> Kyhwana: I was surprised that they've relaxed border controls a bit when flying in from .au, not everyone gets scanned now 22:50 < Katana> squircle: if you haven't noticed there's a few people that want us us all dead 22:51 < Perihelion> squircle: Kinda 22:51 < Kyhwana> hmm 22:51 < squircle> Katana: yep, sure 22:51 -!- zerotri [~zerotri@173-164-162-97-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #linode 22:51 < Perihelion> We have ketchup flavored things but I doubt they're the same brands or anything 22:51 < Katana> shame that it has to interfere with daily life 22:51 < HedgeMage> squircle: Don't judge the rest of us by the TSA -- they are crazy security theater and don't resemble anything reasonable. 22:51 < goose> PERIHELION 22:51 < Perihelion> GOOSE 22:51 < Kyhwana> Katana: it doesn't, it's just security theater 22:51 < squircle> Perihelion: aah 22:51 < goose> I DEMAND FASTER PROGRESS ON MY /64 POOL 22:51 < Perihelion> COME LOOK AT MOTORCYCLES WITH ME 22:51 < goose> I EVEN SUBMITTED A GOOFY TICKET WITH A LINK TO AN XKCD COMIC 22:51 < Perihelion> When? 22:52 < goose> and okay 22:52 < Katana> Kyhwana: it interferes with our lives, yes, but with no real reason 22:52 -!- cro [~Adium@mountainviewbc.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:52 < Kyhwana> goose: ohh, which one? 22:52 < squircle> HedgeMage: I know. it's amazing how CATSA just doesn't give a crap about anything and we've always been fine 22:52 < Kyhwana> Katana: exactly 22:52 < goose> less than 10 minutes ago, and it's already being taken care of :p 22:52 < goose> I love Linode 22:52 < ajmitch> because it's amusing when they stop people carrying baby food onto a plane, but people manage to accidentally get a 12" blade on board 22:52 < Perihelion> k good 22:52 < goose> Kyhwana, the 1000'th one, in reference to 64 being a good round number 22:52 < Perihelion> I was afraid I'd have to beat someone 22:52 < Katana> ajmitch: Adam Savage? 22:52 < ajmitch> Katana: yeah 22:52 < Katana> XD 22:52 < ajmitch> just one example of many :) 22:52 < squircle> I took a straight razor on the plane with me in Canada and they didn't care, but they went ape-shit on me in the 'states getting back on the plane 22:53 < Katana> zerotri: hey, if you want, you're free to clone and git-submodule-update --init whenever :) 22:53 < squircle> not to mention all the 'states fees for foreign travellers 22:53 < Katana> zerotri: I think I've got the structure down for the most part now 22:53 < Katana> squircle: solution, mail yourself in a crate home 22:53 * goose offers Perihelion some cake as a peace offering 22:53 < Katana> it worked for that one guy that mailed himself back to texas 22:53 < HedgeMage> squircle: Oh, the TSA don't make us safer, they just make the people running that whole machine rich, annoy people, and make people with no clue how actual security works a little less jumpy. 22:54 < squircle> HedgeMage: yep 22:54 < ajmitch> HedgeMage: but think of the children! 22:54 < Katana> ajmitch, HedgeMage: Like I've said before, how is the TSA going to stop someone with a stinger sitting a mile away from the airport from taking down a plane? 22:54 < squircle> my one beef with america (and increasingly, Canada) is how they keep everybody in fear so they'll subscribe to this crap 22:54 < HedgeMage> ajmitch: My child is more capable of taking down a terrorist than your average TSA agent. 22:54 < Katana> HedgeMage: ^5 22:55 < squircle> I refused a full-body scan at DEN last month and I was pushed around and practically raped by the TSA 22:55 < HedgeMage> Katana: I just said they don't make us safer. It's called "security theater" for a reason. 22:55 < squircle> (on principal, of course) 22:55 -!- goose [~goose@glados.ext3.net] has quit [Quit: Staying alive can kill you, it's taken years off of my life.] 22:55 < HedgeMage> squircle: I once got held over because a TSA agent thought my chicken salad might be a bomb. 22:55 < Katana> we need to take a lesson from the israelis on how to do it >.> 22:56 < squircle> they had to check my starbucks coffee cup with their bomb-sniffing machine 22:56 < squircle> IT'S A PIECE OF ALUMINIUM 22:56 < squircle> jeez. 22:56 * linbot hands squircle a chill pill 22:56 < Katana> welp 22:56 < squircle> !botsnack 22:56 < linbot> thanks, squircle! 22:56 < Katana> http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/08/la-county-oks-1000-fine-for-throwing-football-frisbee-on-beaches/ 22:56 < Katana> $1000 fine. Really. 22:56 < squircle> uh-huh 22:57 < Katana> can someone just sterilize some of these people 22:57 < zerotri> Katana: I just got my primary computer back, so I'll go git clone it right now 22:57 < Katana> please 22:57 < Katana> zerotri: K 22:57 < ajmitch> Katana: but it's ok, you can get a permit! 22:57 < squircle> I hate how much hate I get in the southern states as a Canadian 22:57 < Katana> ajmitch: i'm going to require breathing permits from politicians 22:58 < squircle> people down there think all terrorists come from (or through) Canada 22:58 < squircle> which is such BS 22:58 < Katana> they come from whereever they can get in 22:58 < Katana> canada, mexico, international flights, cruise ships, whatever 22:58 < squircle> i'm not saying some don't come through here, but refusing to serve me breakfast at your diner because I'm Canadian? 22:58 < squircle> (and that's why I've never gone back to Texas) 22:59 < Katana> zerotri: errr, i'm about to push btw - added an htaccess file for rewrites 22:59 < zerotri> ok 22:59 < zerotri> squircle: come check out California. Everyone here is too high to give a shit 22:59 < ajmitch> squircle: at least they generally know where Canada is 22:59 < zerotri> it's rather annoying, actually 23:00 < squircle> zerotri: my uncle lives just north of LA, and I quite like it there. 23:00 < Katana> zerotri: You'll know if it's working if you get a var-dump spew out of a pageload :) 23:00 < squircle> well, I like how people in California just don't give a crap 23:00 < squircle> reminds me of home :P 23:00 < Katana> if not gist me an error 23:00 < squircle> Canada: America's Hat 23:00 < zerotri> squircle: some day I'll get a house up in Canada. It's been a dream of mine for years 23:01 < squircle> zerotri: anywhere in particular? (and we're glad to have you!) 23:01 < Katana> squircle: speaking of hats: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leEJH_U8uIs 23:01 < squircle> hah 23:01 < SnoFox> ... Katana Just read your LA beach link. 23:01 < SnoFox> Just WTF 23:02 < zerotri> Anywhere where the music scene is right and the internet is fast, besides those requirements anywhere in Canada should be fine 23:02 * SnoFox adds a colon after your nick for clearity 23:02 < Katana> SnoFox: seriously, I don't know anymore 23:02 < squircle> zerotri: HAH, fast internet 23:02 < Katana> enjoy b/w caps 23:02 < squircle> zerotri: well, in Vancouver and Calgary/Edmonton, you can get 150Mbit service, but with like 200GB/month caps 23:02 < Katana> ;_; 23:03 < zerotri> :O 23:03 < SnoFox> Like, I could tolerate the ball throwing rule ... Not particularly fond of it ... But wtf, you can't dig in the sand? 23:03 < squircle> on the plus side, my lawsuit against Bell Canada got accepted! 23:03 < squircle> :D 23:03 < Katana> :U 23:03 < ajmitch> SnoFox: someone could trip & hurt themselves :) 23:03 < SnoFox> Watch where you're going! :| 23:03 < Katana> california: the nanny state 23:03 < SnoFox> ^ 23:04 < SnoFox> Who gave me a link on laser-based HDDs? 23:04 < SnoFox> Was it here? 23:04 < squircle> isn't the Canadian dollar above parity now? 23:04 < Katana> zerotri: btw, did you start watching Shana yet? 23:05 < Katana> squircle: I know it was playing with it a lot when I was living there 23:05 < squircle> Katana: playing with...? 23:05 < Katana> it would go above and below a lot 23:05 < squircle> aah 23:05 < zerotri> Katana: Nope. Spent all yesterday doing I-don't-even-remember-what, and today I spent my free time editing an episode of some show I have never even seen 23:06 < Katana> google says 1usd = .9975 cad 23:06 < squircle> woohoo 23:06 < zerotri> note that it was episode 22 of a show I had never seen 23:06 < squircle> well, paypal still screws me on currency conversion 23:06 < Katana> zerotri: wat 23:06 < squircle> by like 7.5% 23:06 < Katana> squircle: paypal screws *everyone* 23:06 < zerotri> and I still need to go get the eclipse release of Shana 23:07 < Katana> zerotri: I wonder if I'll need to seed for you >.> 23:07 < Katana> zerotri: I know some of the season 2 eps there's no seeds for, usually; you'd have to resort to xdcc to grab them 23:07 < Katana> woaaaah 23:08 < Katana> !help down 23:08 < linbot> Katana: (down ) -- Alias for "web title http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/@1". 23:08 < Katana> !down eclipse.speedsubs.org 23:08 < linbot> Katana: http://eclipse.speedsubs.org Is Down -> Check if your website is up or down? 23:08 < zerotri> heh 23:08 < Katana> ...Eclipse's site is down o_O 23:08 < zerotri> I was just about to mention that 23:08 < Katana> that's rare 23:08 * Katana goes to hop on their irc channel to see what's up 23:08 < zerotri> I thought they stopped subbing a while ago? 23:09 < Katana> they came out of hibernation to finish Shana III with static-subs 23:10 < staticsafe> anime talk in #linode? :o 23:10 < zerotri> sorry, we can take that elsewhere 23:10 < staticsafe> i wasn't complaining 23:10 < staticsafe> lol 23:10 < mikegrb> lulz 23:10 < staticsafe> :D 23:11 < staticsafe> Katana: yea that subdomain isn't returning anything DNS wise 23:12 < Katana> Seems their DNS is shot then 23:12 * Katana runs a dig on the domain 23:12 < Katana> no servers could be reached. huh. 23:12 < staticsafe> yep 23:12 < staticsafe> nslookup is timing out as well 23:12 < Katana> crap. 23:13 -!- cyberdyn [~cyberdyn@99-186-121-128.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode 23:13 < staticsafe> are you looking to download a particular anime? 23:13 < Katana> zerotri was gonna grab their release of shana 23:13 -!- azaghal [~azaghal@109.206.106.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:13 < zerotri> I found it elsewhere 23:13 < Katana> I KNOW I'LL UPLOAD IT ALL TO MEGAUPLOAD 23:13 < staticsafe> Shana III? Commie is doing afaik 23:13 < staticsafe> Katana: too soon bro 23:13 < zerotri> I like this plan 23:13 < Katana> staticsafe: Shana I 23:13 < staticsafe> oic 23:14 < Katana> zerotri: I bet you could xdcc it at least 23:14 < Katana> just would have to find the right ID 23:15 < squircle> things I love about university: DC++ 23:15 < zerotri> no need 23:15 < Katana> zerotri: Got it all then? 23:15 < zerotri> yup 23:16 < Katana> note that there's no 720p or anything of the first season, and only the first two episodes have ...I think it was 420p 23:16 < Katana> even on the dvds of the first season it's that way 23:18 -!- cypha [~raj@c-68-46-138-78.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:19 < Katana> !down eclipse.speedsubs.org 23:19 < linbot> Katana: http://eclipse.speedsubs.org Is Down -> Check if your website is up or down? 23:19 < Katana> Odd 23:19 < Katana> I'm getting nameservers now 23:20 -!- Bhavic [~bhavicp@westinn1.connect.com.fj] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:20 < squircle> has anybody ever used amazon trade-in? 23:22 < Guspaz> apcupsd in the end. It has a simple web interface for reporting info which is sort of nice. 23:22 -!- amoe [~amoe@host-78-147-154-164.as13285.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:22 < squircle> Guspaz: are you the same Guspaz from DSLreports? 23:24 < cyberdyn> good evening all. 23:26 -!- TimTim [TimTim@cpe-098-026-149-108.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:26 < cyberdyn> can anyone tell me what packages should be installed on ubuntu 10.04 for ajax to work in browsers? // dunno if this is the right way to ask the question... but, basically, i have a site that has ajax functions but they are not working... 23:27 < EugeneKay> Uh, what/ 23:27 < Katana> uh 23:27 < squircle> uhhh 23:27 < Katana> ...wat 23:27 < cyberdyn> i have a test site off linode that works with ajax, and the same site on linode does not seem to be working... 23:28 < Katana> blame the code 23:28 < Katana> not the node 23:28 -!- amoe [~amoe@host-78-147-154-164.as13285.net] has joined #linode 23:28 < cyberdyn> but it's late and i'll blame it on that. 23:28 < cyberdyn> :P 23:28 < cyberdyn> hehe 23:28 < cyberdyn> if it was early, i'd blame it on that. 23:28 < Katana> check apache modules 23:28 < Katana> maybe something's different 23:28 < Katana> start reading through your log files 23:28 < Katana> go through the usual checklist 23:28 < cyberdyn> ok ok. 23:28 -!- Gabtendo [~Gabtendo@ip98-168-161-201.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #linode 23:28 < cyberdyn> ;) 23:29 < cyberdyn> i'm going to bed. ;) 23:29 < cyberdyn> night 23:29 -!- cyberdyn [~cyberdyn@99-186-121-128.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:29 < bob2> lolwut 23:29 < KyleXY> ._. 23:29 < Gabtendo> hey 23:30 < Gabtendo> do any of you guys have any experience with a dedicated server from colocrossing? (for something with more power than what I get from a linode) 23:30 < EugeneKay> Nope. 23:30 < KyleXY> Gabtendo: there's a reason we're in #linode :) 23:30 < EugeneKay> I used to have a Serverbeach box for many years, but finally dropped it when I bought rack with HE 23:30 < Gabtendo> which means you tend to have looked around :P 23:30 < KyleXY> Gabtendo: That mean's we're generally Linode powered :) 23:30 < Gabtendo> KyleXY: yeah, I mean, I just wondered if you'd heard much about them >.< 23:31 < Katana> my servers are on the surface of the sun 23:31 < Katana> the latency is pretty bad\ 23:31 < KyleXY> Gabtendo: Considering a google of their name brings me a shit ton of forum posts in all caps, probably a kiddie company :) 23:32 < KyleXY> 23:32 < Katana> 23:32 < KyleXY> 23:32 < Katana> oh god you opened another one 23:32 < Katana> WE NEED SELF CLOSING XML TAGS ON IRC 23:32 < KyleXY> :p 23:33 < Katana> oftc -- | Katana/: Erroneous Nickname 23:33 < Katana> :( 23:34 < bob2> Gabtendo, what sort of power 23:34 < Gabtendo> KyleXY: really, I'm finding gneerally favorable reviews 23:34 < Gabtendo> bob2: minimum of 12 GB of RAM, preferably 8 virtual cores, minimum of 4 physical cores 23:34 < Gabtendo> dedicated 23:34 < KyleXY> Gabtendo: That's one leaky program you have thar. 23:35 < KyleXY> It's for a lot of game servers 23:35 < bob2> wtf is a virtual core 23:35 < EugeneKay> HTing 23:35 < Gabtendo> ^ 23:35 < bob2> ps linode gives you 4 cores 23:35 < Gabtendo> also, latency is an issue 23:35 < Gabtendo> so preferably Chicago datacenter 23:36 -!- TheBadShepperd [xelda@galaxy.esper.net] has joined #linode 23:36 < Katana> http://xkcd.com/682/ OH JESUS I NEVER SAW THIS ONE BEFORE 23:37 < EugeneKay> Lulz 23:37 < KyleXY> TheBadShepperd: run away from the espernet server! 23:37 < KyleXY> .-. 23:37 < TheBadShepperd> eh? 23:37 < KyleXY> .-. 23:38 * TheBadShepperd doesn't get it. 23:39 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@201-11-213-235.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:39 -!- bbeausej [~Adium@modemcable158.118-22-96.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:42 -!- karstensrage [~karstensr@c-67-174-201-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:43 < zivester> i just upgraded a linode from a 512 to a 768... i had previously paid for my 2 years up front, so i get that it charged it immediately... is it normal for the backup service that i was paying for month to month to completely bill out as well? 23:44 < zivester> im not sure if I'll be keeping the backup service, hence why I liked it being month to month 23:45 < bob2> prolly need to file a ticket 23:45 < bob2> no staff have spoken up in forever 23:46 < bob2> like hours 23:46 -!- Gabtendo [~Gabtendo@ip98-168-161-201.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #linode [] 23:46 < linbot> New news from forums: 12hr date in General Discussion 23:46 < Perihelion> Hmm, yeah put in a ticket 23:47 < Praefectus> zivester: your backup service would change from the 512 to the 768 plan, and would be charged according to the billing schedule it is on, whether monthly or yearly 23:48 < zivester> i would think that, but it def. charged me for the rest of the hosting plan... but i can file a ticket 23:48 < zivester> probably not a big deal... if i want to turn it off i think linode will just credit it back to my account.. i dont plan on moving in 9 months anyway 23:49 < Guspaz> squircle: yes 23:49 < squircle> oh, awesome 23:49 -!- Athenon [~Athenon@titanium.uhv.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:49 < JoeK> [23:46:03] no staff have spoken up in forever 23:49 < Guspaz> ? 23:49 < Praefectus> zivester: id say look at your invoice, you probably have your backups set to renew with your linode 23:49 < JoeK> i think the staff have that on nick alert 23:50 < JoeK> regardless, Perihelion's fault 23:50 < bob2> it was less than an hour anyway 23:50 < Guspaz> Isn't everything? 23:50 < Guspaz> She's new, and the new people are supposed to be scapegoats, no? Although I doubt she's the newest anymore. 23:51 < Katana> blame akerl! 23:51 < Katana> always akerl! 23:51 < squircle> blame canada! 23:51 < squircle> oh, wait... 23:51 < squircle> :( 23:51 < Praefectus> it is always laker's fault 23:51 < Katana> so, I decided to make a hint to this security challenge question 23:51 < Katana> the hint is to point towards MITM 23:51 < Katana> http://i43.tinypic.com/14dmxi8.png <- how's this? 23:52 < zivester> i've been charged $5 a month for backups... 9 months left on my hosting, and it charged 73.24 - ($3.80) for backups... i dont think i changed anything 23:52 < Praefectus> did you look at your invoice? 23:52 -!- squircle [~squircle@2001:470:1d:647:cabc:c8ff:fee7:8bb7] has quit [Quit: ...and to all a good night] 23:53 < zivester> Backup Service - Linode 768 (biennial) 23:54 < Praefectus> that would mean you requested your backups to be set to a biennial plan at some point 23:54 < Kyhwana> grrr beertime 23:55 < zivester> weird... well im only concerned if backups cannot be turned off and i wont be credited.. are both of these possible? 23:55 < Praefectus> no 23:55 < Praefectus> your backups can be turned off and you will be credited for unused time 23:55 -!- rovo [~rovo@pool-96-231-193-69.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #linode 23:56 < Katana> aww Praefectus you're so nice 23:56 < rovo> Hello, just setting up a DNS zone on linode, trying to determine if i want to create a master or slave? 23:56 < Katana> most others would say "welp sucks to be you" that i see in hosting 23:56 < Praefectus> zivester: unless your name on irc is Katana 23:56 < Katana> ...Shit. 23:57 < Katana> !gameloss Praefectus 23:57 < linbot> Congratulations! You've lost the game! 23:57 < Katana> enjoy 23:57 < Perihelion> !rr 23:57 < linbot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 23:57 * linbot reloads and spins the chambers. 23:57 < zivester> lol aiight then im not worried.. linode has served me well, ty Praefectus 23:57 < mikegrb> lulz 23:57 * Praefectus doesn't play "the game" 23:58 < Perihelion> rovo: If you don't know, you probably want master 23:58 < EugeneKay> rovo - do you want to manage the zone in the Web UI or on your Linode(via BIND)? 23:58 < Perihelion> Are you trying to host DNS with Linode or do you host DNS elsewhere? 23:58 < EugeneKay> Hint: web UI 23:58 < rovo> Perihelion: thanks, that is what I am thinking 23:58 < rovo> Perihelion: host dNS with Linode 23:58 < Perihelion> Then yeah, master 23:58 < EugeneKay> Master. 23:58 < rovo> ok --- Log closed Wed Feb 08 23:59:00 2012