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06:00 < ticallion> morning
06:05 < Lathiat> bing
06:10 < BB> morn
06:16 < ticallion> we all hate 2.6-test1 don't we?!
06:17 < Lathiat> i never got aroudn to compiling it yet
06:18 < ticallion> doesn't work for uml, not even with that 2.5.70 patch
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11:38 < delink> does anyone know where to download a filesystem file for Debian sarge for use as a rootfs in UML?
11:44 < Lathiat> i could make you one
11:44 < Lathiat> would you like me to?
11:44 < Lathiat> how big a filesystem did you want?
11:46 < snide> Lathiat: a .tar.gz would be even better ;-) [ that way he'll have the size he wants ]
11:47 < delink> just 2GB
11:47 < Lathiat> hrm
11:47 < Lathiat> a .tar.gz woudl work
11:47 < Lathiat> i schuppose
11:47 < Lathiat> gimme 5 delink
11:47 < delink> or you could just bzip2 it
11:47 < delink> thank you Lathiat 
11:48 < Lathiat> seven:/chroot# debootstrap sarge sarge/ file:/linux/debian
11:48 < Lathiat> should be done in 10mins or so
11:48 < delink> great thanks
11:48 < snide> delink: actually, with a .tar.gz several things are up to u : fs type and fs size
11:48 < Lathiat> then ill tar.bz2 and fire a url to you
11:48 < Lathiat> delink: how much bandwidth you got there?
11:48  * delink nods
11:48 < delink> 1500 down
11:48 < Lathiat> i can install some packages n stuff if you want
11:48 < Lathiat> ssh etc?
11:49 < delink> nah, I'll install those
11:49 < Lathiat> should i fix up the config files?
11:49 < delink> thanks though
11:49 < delink> fix them up how?
11:49 < Lathiat> make a hosts file, make an fstab, edit the hostname etc
11:49 < Lathiat> and setup consoles
11:49 < delink> ah, yeah, that would be good if you don't mind
11:49 < Lathiat> my talk has a mini howto on fixing up debian for uml, www.sixlabs.org/talks/uml i think
11:50 < snide> Lathiat: hmmm.. distcc is quite nice actually...
11:52 < Lathiat> yeh it is
11:52 < Lathiat> i had probs with it
11:52 < Lathiat> but its not bad
11:53 < delink> ah
11:53 < delink> I didn't realise it was so easy to make a base system
11:53 < delink> I suppose I could have done that myself :\
11:54 < Lathiat> possibly :P
11:54 < Lathiat> cept i can read it off nfs so its leeter :P
11:54 < delink> heh
11:54 < Lathiat> ftp.uwa.edu.au:/usr/local/ftp/mirrors/linux
11:55 < Lathiat> ftp.uwa.edu.au:/usr/local/ftp/mirrors/linux
11:55 < Lathiat> oops
11:55 < Lathiat> ftp.uwa.edu.au:/usr/local/ftp/mirrors/linux
11:55 < Lathiat>                        75G   65G   11G  87% /linux
11:55 < delink> ah, well, that must be handy
11:55 < BB> Lathiat could i nab a copy of the debian rootfs please too?
11:55 < Lathiat> sure BB
11:55 < delink> I think my UML on umlcoop.net has a local Debian mirror
11:55 < BB> Lathiat ta
11:55 < Lathiat> BB: any custom options?
11:55 < Lathiat> like packages?
11:56 < Lathiat> i should make a "Debian RootFS delivery service " :P
11:56 < delink> well, with your permission of course, I would probably post it to usermodelinux.org because there aren't any filesystems for download on there now
11:56 < BB> Lathiat not really, just something that works ;)
11:56 < delink> that way the next poor sap finds it :-)
11:56  * Lathiat podners
11:56 < Lathiat> i only pay for incomign traffic
11:56 < Lathiat> so that should be ok
11:57 < delink> no no
11:57 < delink> not the URL
11:57 < Lathiat> its only a few hundred bytes per request
11:57 < delink> I would upload the file
11:57 < Lathiat> nah having it linked is leeter :P
11:57 < Lathiat> lol
11:57 < Lathiat> promo! :P
11:57  * delink shrugs
11:57 < delink> your traffic :-)
11:58 < BB> are you another one who likes to see big network graphs Lathiat ?
11:59 < Lathiat> www.sixlabs.org/files/debian-rootfs.tar.bz2 go spamy promo
11:59 < Lathiat> cept no one would notice or care anyway :P
11:59 < Lathiat> BB: at 4.5c/meg incoming, i like small network graphs :P
12:01 < Lathiat> I: Base system installed successfully.
12:01 < Lathiat> You have support mail
12:01 < Lathiat> seven:/chroot# 
12:02 < BB> Lathiat yikes i can see why
12:02 < delink> i did a apt-get install debootstrap, but I don't get a script for sarge
12:03 < delink> is that only in the testing or unstable version?
12:03 < Lathiat> probably only in unstable
12:03 < delink> If I installed from a Debian 3.0 CD, can I just update my apt/sources.list to include the unstable stuff?
12:03 < delink> or would that be detrimental to my system's health?
12:04 < Lathiat> tar.bz2ing
12:04 < delink> Lathiat: I am getting a 404 with that link
12:04 < Lathiat> delink: thats fun, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
12:04 < Lathiat> delink: no that was a joke
12:04 < delink> is this anon FTP or something?
12:04 < Lathiat> ill put it there in a minute
12:04 < delink> ah ok
12:04 < Lathiat> i run unstable
12:04 < Lathiat> on my server
12:04 < Lathiat> its great
12:05 < Lathiat> i aint had a problem with it since i started using unstable like 6mo ago
12:05 < delink> This is my toy machine, so I am not completely worried about it
12:05 < delink> I thought about trying linux-2.6 on it
12:05 < delink> there is a patch for 2.5.70 UML
12:05 < delink> I figure that oughta be very close
12:06 < Lathiat> linux2.6 has uml in it
12:07 < delink> oh, was it included as an arch?
12:08 < Lathiat> i dunno
12:08 < Lathiat> i just make menuconfig ARCH=um
12:08 < Lathiat> works
12:08 < Lathiat> still tar.bz2ing
12:10 < Lathiat> sheesh delink 
12:10 < Lathiat> yyour tar.gz is hammering my load
12:10 < Lathiat>  00:09:32 up 20 days,  4:21, 12 users,  load average: 1.32, 1.79, 1.54
12:10 < Lathiat> never been so high :P lol
12:10 < Lathiat> its got 2 cpus, its allowed to hit 2.0 :P
12:10 < delink> heh
12:11 < delink> yeah, my toy UML machine is an old IBM PC 365
12:11 < delink> two PPro 200MHz chips
12:11 < Lathiat> haha
12:11 < Lathiat> i gotexactly the same
12:11 < Lathiat> lol
12:11 < Lathiat> asus mb with 8 ram slots?
12:11 < Lathiat> Hostname: seven - OS: Linux 2.4.21-seven-skas3/i686 - CPU: 2 x Pentium Pro, 199.435MHz - Processes: 129 - Uptime: 20 Days, 4 Hours, 22 Minutes - Load Average: 1.48 - Memory Usage: 94.59mb/320.62mb (29.50%) - Disk Usage: 144.93gb/167.49gb (86.53%) - Network Traffic (br0): In/Out 156.0mb/3363.8mb
12:11 < delink> ooh no, only 4 in mine
12:11 < Lathiat> ahh, i got teh leet 8 :P
12:11 < Lathiat> oodles of ram with 64mbeg 72pin chips
12:11 < delink> i only paid US$40 for mine :)
12:12 < delink> i have 256MB total in mine
12:12 < snide> Lathiat: where did u have this infos from ? [ hand made ? ]
12:12 < delink> snide: possibly part of an IRC script if he is IRCing from the box
12:12 < Lathiat> snide: what info?
12:12 < Lathiat> ohh
12:12 < Lathiat> right
12:12 < Lathiat> http://montaro.sixlabs.org/sysinfo264.tar.gz
12:13 < Lathiat> hrm i think my inwards traffic counter wrapped around
12:13 < Lathiat> i paid Au $0.00 for mine
12:13 < Lathiat> incl. the ram, the hard drive, the cpu, the mb, the lot :P
12:13 < Lathiat> im good at hardware scabbing
12:14 < delink> I grab some extra stuff from work once in a while, we have tons of old machines that fester in a closet
12:14 < delink> so i'm like, hey can i put that rotten stuff to good use?
12:14 < delink> I work in a Windows shop, so none of this old stuff runs that bloat anyhow
12:14  * BB has loads a old machines think i'm gonna toss some
12:15 < delink> nah
12:15 < delink> don't toss them, do something with them
12:15 < BB> they are taking up space i dont have
12:15 < delink> rebuild them into nice X desktops and donate them to a school or something
12:15 < BB> an X desktop a school around here wouldnt be allowed to use since the council say eveything has to be windows
12:16 < delink> blah
12:16 < delink> move!
12:16 < BB> heh
12:16 < BB> I'l keep 5 and toss the rest :P
12:16 < snide> Lathiat: i like the "Your using IPv4, boo! Your IP is ::ffff:80..." part..
12:16 < delink> alright, i am off the movies with my better half. Lathiat if you could put that filesys up and put the URL to me in a PRIVMSG, i will come grab it when I get back
12:16 < delink> Lathiat: thanks again
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12:32 < Lathiat> www.sixlabs.org/files/sarge.tar.bz2
12:32 < Lathiat> 48MB
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20:29 < delink> Lathiat: thanks
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