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04:22 < BB> morning
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09:22 < jdike> hi guys
09:23 < Lathiat> Bing
09:23 < Lathiat> how goes it
09:25 < ticallion> hey :)
09:25 < Lathiat> how up to date is the stuff in 2.6.0-test1?
09:26 < jdike> Lathiat: that's really 2.5.6something
09:26 < Lathiat> so is the uml stuff in 2.5.6something up to date?
09:43 < jdike> Any .uk people want to staff a UML table at ukuug?
09:43 < jdike> They offered some space to the UML poeject
09:43 < jdike> project
09:50 < snide> jdike: hi
09:52 < Lathiat> well if ukuug move to australia :P
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11:01 < nos> any one awake in here?
11:04 < Jax> sure
11:04 < nos> is this uml support or somewhat help chan?
11:05 < Jax> i suppose so, need something?
11:05 < nos> yea im having troubles getting the uml to talk ut
11:05 < nos> i mean talk out
11:06 < nos> guess im not understanding the networking
11:06 < nos> i got an ip for it but dont know what transport i should use or how to set it up yet
11:07 < nos> id probably inderstand it if i knew what ip in the manual was the internet ip :)
11:07 < nos> but they all looked like local ip's
11:10 < Jax> i still haven't done anything network wise (only been using UML a couple of days), but the documentation and scripts at www.stearns.org/slartibartfast/ is useful
11:10 < Jax> i plan on modeling my setup after this
11:11 < nos> yea ive see than page , havent read into it tho
11:20 < nos> when you inconfig the tap do you give it the local ip or the internet ip?
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11:38 < attriel> hey folks :o
11:40 < attriel> i'm trying to set up UML via the stock 2.6 kernel; when i get to "make linux ARCH=um" it links asm-um/arch to asm-i386, and includes some files via "asm/arch/" but they, in turn, include others which (for obvious reasons) don't have the "arch/" bit and fails
11:40 < attriel> is this an "oops, I misconfig'd something" on my part, or should I be looking at what it uses and scratching up a patch ?
11:41 < jdike> attriel: the stock 2.6 tree doesn't have a working UML
11:42 < attriel> oh, well, that'd be my problem then yah :o
11:42 < attriel> i figured it was working if out of date :/
11:43 < jdike> attriel: my latest patch is 2.5.70, apply that to a 2.5.70 tree and it will work
11:43 < snide> jdike: actually, 2.6.0-test are out to put a little more pressure on fixing things...
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11:43 < attriel> thanks jdike :o
11:43 < snide> jdike: u'll fell it soon also [ *looking at ppl around* ] ;-p
11:44 < attriel> do i need to back the host-kernel down to 2.5.70 too, or just the UML-kernel tree?
11:44 < snide> s/fell/feel/
11:44 < jdike> attriel: no
11:44 < attriel> cool
11:44 < jdike> attriel: there is no relation between host and UML versions
11:44  * attriel goes to grab another source tree and patches :o
11:45 < attriel> wasn't sure if maybe whatever hooks (like skas) that UML would be attaching to might be off-synch or not :)
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11:55 < david> hello
11:55 < jdike> hi david
11:56 < david> jdike: how's it goign?
11:57 < jdike> david: pretty well, hanging out at KS
11:57 < jdike> david: wli is rambling on about superpages atm
11:58 < ticallion> david: why'd u choose oftc?!
11:59 < ticallion> I mean jdike
12:00 < jdike> ticallion: coz that's where #kernelnewbies moved
12:01 < ticallion> ticallion: fair enough
12:01  * ticallion slaps self
12:01 < ticallion> jdike: fair enough
12:05 < david> jdike: superpages?
12:05 < david> ticallion: what's wrong with oftc?
12:06 < ticallion> david: absolutely nothing, was just wondering cos I had never heard of it cept for #lartc
12:06 < ticallion> my early linux days were solitary :)
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12:18 < david> ticallion: lots of stuff that used to be on openprojects moved here
12:19 < ticallion> david: I only know of #kernelnewbies
12:22 < ticallion> jdike: any insight on 2.6-test1?! haven't managed to make it compile cleanly with ur latest 2.5.xx patch
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12:53 < BB> evening
12:53 < nos> any one in here have a step by guide for networking that actually tells you what ip's are local what are the internet ips and what console your in either host or uml ?
12:54 < david> nos: the Networking documentation on the UML site?
12:54 < nos> i couldnt follow it :(
12:55 < nos> diddnt know what ip's they were putting in 
12:55 < nos> i have recieved a dedicated ip for the uml 
12:55 < nos> and i think the doc was using all local ip's
12:57 < nos> what i got out of the help was i use eth0=tuntap,,,localip-or-internetip? then setup networking as normal in the uml?
13:00 < david> use the same IP as eth0 there
13:01 < nos> no i dont want to use the other ip i was given ?
13:01 < nos> i mean so i dont want to use the ip i was given
13:09 < nos> hmm dono how i did it but i got it :P
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13:12 < ticallion> later folks
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13:13 < nos> yea me to thanks for the help
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14:21 < mark> have a problem with my debian stable inside UML
14:22 < jdike> mdomsch: next to suparna
14:22 < mark> PHP fatal error: unable to start session mm module in Unknown on line 0
14:23 < jdike> oops, rik types faster :-)
14:23 < mark> could this be an UML problem?
14:23 < mark> since I'm using the Debian stable image
14:23 < mark> and the latest Debian stable Apache...
14:24 < jdike> wrong chan too
14:24 < jdike> mark: looks more like a php problem right now
14:26 < mark> kara, I'll have a check with the php people then
14:26 < mark> thx for your reply
14:26 < jdike> mark: you'll have to track it down to a system call misbehaving inside UML or something
14:26 < jdike> mark: somehow implicate the kernel
14:27 < mark> oh...oops, guess I'm a little too newbie for those things, but I'll see if I can get some friends to do that
14:27 < mark> thanks a lot for your patience
14:27 < mark> bye
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14:33 < kara> I replied?
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15:31 < attriel> hrrm.  apparently 2.5.70 moved some stuff from linux/elf.h to asm/elf.h that modules seems to miss terribly :o  (i386 it lost R_386_32 and _PC32)
15:31 < attriel> I haven't figured out the bug-reporting process, yet, sorry :/
15:40 < jdike> attriel: modules don't work in 2.5
15:41 < jdike> attriel: that's one thing I haven't got around to fixing
15:41 < attriel> well, that explains that :)  no i got another error bout a missing header file, but not sure wehre it went offhand ;)
15:41 < attriel> i understand how it goes
15:45 < attriel> btw, where would i find a 'known problems' list and/or put up notes for things that i find 'broken'? (blkmtd is blown wide, iobuf.h seems ot have vanished entirely somewhere in 2.5 :o)
15:49 < jdike> attriel: mtd is not a UML problem
15:49 < jdike> attriel: generally, ask on lkml
15:51 < attriel> lkml being a mailing list @ ? (and wasnt sure about mtd, since i usually disable it; was trying stock compile of UML as a first shot, though, so hadn't checked it)
15:52  * attriel doesn't generally get time to do the kernel hacking hed like and isn't familiar with the lists anymore
15:53 < jdike> attriel: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
15:53 < attriel> oh, ok.  thought maybe lkml was a different list :o
15:53 < jdike> attriel: but if you don't really miss mtd, then there's probably no point complaining about it
15:54 < attriel> heh, esp since I can't help test it yah :o
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17:17 < AquaJo> n8
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17:34 < ceu> hi
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18:49 < ceu> I've recompiled uml kernel (using latest patch for 2.4.20). Now the arrow keys doesn't work
18:49 < ceu> why?
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