--- Day changed --- Log opened Wed Aug 06 00:00:01 2003 01:44 -!- collord_ [~collord@64.239.79.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 488 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Aug 06 03:25:05 2003 --- Log opened Wed Aug 06 03:25:17 2003 03:35 -!- collord_ [~collord@dt.collord.net] has joined #uml 03:37 -!- G2 [~G2@193.195.148.66] has joined #uml --- Log closed Wed Aug 06 04:00:13 2003 --- Log opened Wed Aug 06 04:04:42 2003 04:42 -!- com4 [~com4@12.209.152.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 488 seconds] 04:52 -!- com4 [~com4@12-209-152-183.client.attbi.com] has joined #uml 05:43 < lah> idle : 620 hours 43 mins 11 secs (signon: Sun Jul 6 17:51:51 2003) 05:43 < lah> *beep* 05:44 < green> hehe 05:50 < lah> thanks to the backlog I finally fixed the uml consoles :) 05:51 < lah> "co .. mingetty tty0" 06:04 -!- G2 [~G2@193.195.148.66] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 06:38 -!- desaster [~desaster@80.222.254.34] has quit [Quit: Booze is the answer. I don't remember the question.] 07:27 -!- desaster [~desaster@dsl-jklgw1o22.dial.inet.fi] has joined #uml 07:58 -!- JirkaS [~blemc@pixla.dsh.cz] has joined #uml 07:58 < JirkaS> hi all 07:59 < BB> hi 07:59 < JirkaS> is somebody alive? :-) 07:59 < JirkaS> i hope yes, because i have two little questions about uml 08:03 < JirkaS> i'm trying uml now and i'm little confused about minor numbers of the ubdX devices 08:04 < JirkaS> in both documentation and images from sourceforge 08:05 < JirkaS> ubd0 have minor number 0, ubd1 number 1, ubd2 number 2, etc. 08:06 < JirkaS> but i see my filesystem images with minor numbers 0, 16, 32 etc. 08:06 < JirkaS> so i changed dev entries in root fs image and all works 08:06 < JirkaS> and second question 08:07 < JirkaS> i tried uml binary (extracted from last rpm) from sourceforge 08:08 < JirkaS> and ubd1 is still read only 08:08 < JirkaS> when i compiled my own binary 08:08 < JirkaS> ubd is writeable 08:08 < JirkaS> ubd1 08:09 < JirkaS> (but still on numbers 98 16) 08:12 < BB> hrm no idea sorry.. hang around and someone might wake up 08:16 < green> so minors are easy, documentation is just outdated. read-only is probably because when you are running prebuilt uml, that user under which you run it does not have write permissopns on a file that you use as ubd1 08:17 < JirkaS> ah, then minors are now 0, 16, etc, thanx! 08:18 < green> the base shift now 4 instead of zero, so yes, they are 1< and about read-only... permissions was first thing i looked at, for test i even set it to rw-rw-rw- :-) 08:19 < JirkaS> yup, bit shift, i understand 08:21 < JirkaS> hmm, i try to swap ubd0 <=> ubd1 08:21 < green> well, not sure of your readonly problems with ubd then. are there any strange messages when uml boots? 08:22 -!- G2_ [~G2@193.195.148.66] has joined #uml 08:29 < attriel> also of note, in caes you need it, partitions are the numbers between ubd1p1 is minor 17 08:29 < attriel> (if it comes up for you :o) 08:30 < JirkaS> hehe, i think i found it just now :-) 08:30 < JirkaS> (no strange messages, when kernel boots) 08:30 < JirkaS> so 08:31 < JirkaS> oops, uml boots :-) 08:31 < JirkaS> then now i can have a disk images? 08:32 < JirkaS> one big file with partition table and partitions? 08:32 < attriel> yah 08:33 < attriel> hey, no wonder i seem to be crashing this install :o apparently UML decided it only has 29M of memory :! 08:34 * attriel goes to look into mem= command lines, since the box has a gig, it can probably spare more than 29M :o 08:34 < JirkaS> cool 08:34 < JirkaS> or better 08:35 < JirkaS> now i can pass to uml arguments as ubd1p1=... 08:36 < JirkaS> because with one big disk image probably will be problem with loop mount of one partition (in case of need) 08:40 < attriel> dunno if yo ucan pass it ubd1p1 08:40 < attriel> i created a big image then in the uml fdisk'd it and created partitions from there on ubd1 08:40 < JirkaS> a will try 08:42 < JirkaS> then no :-), it's not possible 08:42 < JirkaS> (pass ubd1p1) 08:42 < JirkaS> then i will do it exactly as attriel 08:43 < JirkaS> thank you very much, guys 08:48 < attriel> heh 08:48 < attriel> no problem 08:49 < attriel> you know what command i can use to find out where linux has stuffed 600M of memory that is 08:49 < attriel> '"in use"? 08:49 < green> ps/top? ;) 08:50 < attriel> yah, i'm not seeing it though :o 08:50 < attriel> i guess it just decided to cache a bunch of things for me (nice of it :) 08:50 < JirkaS> :-) 08:50 < attriel> oh, probably my 500M "disk" taht i keep loading for uml 08:50 < attriel> duh :o 08:51 < attriel> (nice that it's caching it; annoying that it sucked out all the memory in the process ... maybe i'll make multiple "disks" now :) 09:14 -!- G2_ [~G2@193.195.148.66] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 09:18 < JirkaS> bye 09:18 -!- JirkaS [~blemc@pixla.dsh.cz] has quit [Quit: Nachystejte uzenace, na snidani jsem zpatky...] 10:21 -!- G2 [~G2@193.195.148.66] has joined #uml 10:30 -!- G2 [~G2@193.195.148.66] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 10:30 -!- G2_ [~G2@193.195.148.66] has joined #uml 10:48 -!- Jax [~computer_@148.100.219.56] has joined #uml 10:49 -!- peace [~katta@128.253.7.225] has joined #uml 10:49 -!- peace is now known as shanti 11:13 -!- G2_ [~G2@193.195.148.66] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 12:00 -!- magnet [~magnet@213.223.184.193] has joined #uml 12:01 < magnet> hello. 12:02 < magnet> I'm looking for some help on how to setup networking in uml,I've read some docs on the web, but I can t get it to works. 12:08 < QSECOFR> its a PITA. 12:08 < magnet> PITA ? what do you mean ? 12:09 < QSECOFR> pain in the ass 12:09 < magnet> oh I guess so.but in the howto is was like, simple. 12:09 < magnet> what should I do ? 12:10 < QSECOFR> i'd give you my script, but its pretty fubar since ive several nics and several networks on there.. 12:11 < QSECOFR> was some decent instructions somewhere by a guy named david coulson or somesuch... 12:11 < magnet> umm oki. 12:12 < solarce> http://uml.openconsultancy.com/ 12:14 < magnet> it seems interesting,let's read it. 12:17 < solarce> david: hola 12:21 -!- thy_ [koubt9am@195.113.21.176] has joined #uml 12:35 -!- PiAf [penelope@212.37.221.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:40 -!- com4 [~com4@12-209-152-183.client.attbi.com] has left #uml [Client exiting] 12:44 -!- julien` [julien@212.37.221.50] has joined #uml 13:00 -!- julien` [julien@212.37.221.50] has left #uml [Client exiting] 13:01 -!- thy_ [koubt9am@195.113.21.176] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36 -!- smcavoy [~smcavoy@grimlock.drive-megawheels.net] has joined #uml 15:53 -!- stbe [~stbe@148.100.208.55] has joined #uml 15:59 -!- shanti [~katta@128.253.7.225] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 16:10 -!- stbe [~stbe@148.100.208.55] has quit [Quit: BitchX: stays crunchy in milk!] 16:27 -!- Jax [~computer_@148.100.219.56] has quit [Quit: going home] 17:01 -!- Gary [~Darth@80.189.113.226] has joined #uml 17:01 < Gary> hi 17:01 < BB> hi 17:02 < Gary> does anyone know if uml is compatible with a i686 17:02 < BB> well it runs on i686 class machines 17:03 < Gary> will kernel-2.4.20ctx-16 work with a pentium? 17:04 < BB> no idea, i've only used it on athlon/xeon/P4 17:04 < Gary> Tried, but it created a file in arch/boot/i386 but of course I need a i686 17:05 < Gary> not sure if I can change it with that source or if I need to download another one 17:05 < BB> erm that sounds more like a host kernel than a UML kernel 17:05 < Gary> I followed a fuide 17:05 < Gary> guide* 17:05 < Gary> linux from scratch 17:05 < Gary> I patched the kernel etc 17:05 < Gary> I assume it was for the "host"? 17:06 < Gary> never said :P 17:06 < Gary> I patched it with the UML patch... 17:06 < BB> the skas one? 17:06 < Gary> so was it actualy for the uml? 17:07 < Gary> http://hints.linuxfromscratch.co.uk/hints/uml.txt 17:08 < BB> if its not the host kernel then it should make a kernel called "linux" in the "top" of the source dir 17:09 < Gary> does the host need a special k 17:09 < Gary> patched kernel* 17:09 < BB> if you want to use skas then yes, but you can use it without 17:09 < Gary> skas? :p 17:10 -!- Jax [~Nimaj@148.100.208.188] has joined #uml 17:11 < BB> http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/skas.html 17:11 < Gary> I see 17:11 < Gary> so if I do not want to use skas don't bother patching the host kernel 17:11 < Gary> so the kernel I actualy created was for the UML 17:12 < BB> well i'm not sure it shouldnt of made it in arch/boot/i386 since its arch/um as far as i'm aware and it normaly puts it in the top of the source dir 17:13 < Gary> let me look 17:13 < attriel> afaik there isn't an arch/i686 directory 17:14 < Gary> so if it is in um 17:14 < Gary> should I create the filesystem 17:14 < Gary> say I downloaded rh9 17:14 < Gary> would I need to specify in the filesystem lilo where to boot the kernel from? 17:14 < attriel> you'd just tell the configs what machine you're running and it compiles optimizations for that (which would be i686 ops for an i686 machine); the i386 is the "class" of machine 17:15 < attriel> the UML kernel is a userspace "application" tha you'd run manually or from a startup script 17:15 < Gary> the configs? 17:16 < attriel> when you "make xconfig" or whichever; but if it's the UML kernel it doesn't matter 17:16 < BB> you mean "make xconfig ARCH=um" i assume 17:16 < Gary> yea 17:17 < attriel> well, if he built a UML kernel yes; if it was a host kernel then no, i entirely don't :) 17:17 < Gary> well I followed the guide from linux from scratch 17:17 < Gary> and it told me to apply a uml patch to the kernel 17:17 < attriel> my original comment was about the host kernel, since he said it gave him arch/i386/boot stuff and he was looking for i686 17:17 < Gary> so I assume the kernel is for uml 17:18 < attriel> then it's probably building a UML kernel, which is a userspace application 17:18 < attriel> it should have ended with something like "make linux ARCH=um" 17:18 < attriel> ? 17:18 < Gary> [root@localhost um]# dir 17:18 < Gary> what should I be looking for 17:18 < attriel> in the directory where you did the make, there should be an executable called "linux" 17:19 < Gary> nope 17:19 < Gary> =( 17:19 < Gary> ah 17:19 < Gary> yea 17:19 < Gary> :-)! 17:19 < Gary> "linux" 17:20 < Gary> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 62:00 17:20 < Gary> great :-) 17:20 < attriel> see, it's closer :) 17:20 < Gary> just got to create the root_fs 17:20 < Gary> then run ./linux from that dir 17:20 < Gary> and specify the located on the filesystem 17:20 < Gary> location* 17:21 < Gary> I tried a script to copy my default system 17:21 < attriel> yah; there are a bunch downloadable from http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/ or http://www.usermodelinux.org/ with more directions on how to set that up 17:21 < Gary> but it did not work :-/ 17:21 < attriel> but i gotta head out now, sorry :/ 17:21 < Gary> no fun on a 56k 17:21 < Gary> thanks for the help 17:25 -!- smcavoy [~smcavoy@grimlock.drive-megawheels.net] has quit [Quit: ACK!] 17:28 < BB> lol 17:28 < BB> doh wrong channel 17:32 -!- Gary [~Darth@80.189.113.226] has quit [] 17:34 -!- caker [~null@68.52.196.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 490 seconds] 17:44 -!- pirlouit [~peter@64.162.195.202] has quit [Quit: Time to frag!] 18:17 -!- Gary [~Darth@ps.189.113.226.dial.global.net.uk] has joined #uml 18:18 < Gary> lo 18:29 -!- pirlouit [~peter@64.162.195.202] has joined #uml 18:33 < Gary> File "/usr/lib/uml/umlbuilder/uml_mkdistro.py", line 532, in ? 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