--- Day changed --- Log opened Wed Aug 13 00:00:02 2003 00:48 -!- ticallion [~ticallion@213.175.160.224] has quit [Quit: bbl] 00:52 -!- Umler [~anon@dsl-200-67-146-73.prodigy.net.mx] has joined #uml 01:10 < com4> build one Aetherios, iirc, it asks you what directory you wanna install it in 01:10 < com4> just install it in the mount of a root_fs file 01:10 < com4> i think the steps are like 01:10 < com4> unzip the stage into the dir 01:10 < com4> chroot into the dir 01:11 < com4> run emerge sync 01:11 < com4> emerge system 01:11 < com4> after you've get up the network of cource 01:15 < Aetherios> yeah, that's what i'm doin now 01:16 < Aetherios> I was kinda in a hurry though, and wanted it a little sooner, but I guess not ;-) 01:17 < caker> are there not any gentoo filesystems for download? 01:18 < com4> not on the uml site 01:18 < Aetherios> i couldn't find any 01:19 -!- jax [~Nimaj@148.100.212.145] has quit [Quit: sleep] 01:19 < Aetherios> I probably shoulda backed mine up before installing extra stuff to distribute 02:02 * green points out that there is no sence in Gentoo, may be except helping *BSD guys to convert to Linux ;) 02:21 * Aetherios points out that he is very glad green gave his opinion ;-) 02:24 < green> hehe 03:12 -!- dunc [~dunc@217.79.100.249] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:30 -!- G2_ [~G2@193.195.148.66] has joined #uml 03:33 -!- G2_ [~G2@193.195.148.66] has quit [Client Quit] 03:33 -!- G2 [~G2@193.195.148.66] has joined #uml 03:34 < G2> morning all 03:36 < Aetherios> morn...or almost g'night where i am ;-) 03:36 < G2> ha 03:54 -!- dunc [~dunc@geology.thebunker.net] has joined #uml 03:58 -!- spenne [~spenneb@248.20.204.212.sr2.DTM1.ip.versanet.de] has joined #uml 04:52 -!- Aetherios [~jeff@rrcs-west-24-199-13-10.biz.rr.com] has quit [] 05:48 * wojci just noticed .. : 05:48 < wojci> [02:16] (msg) Nippur - UML Hosting: 64MB RAM, 128MB Swap, 1GB Free HD space, RH9, Kernel 2.4.21-6um -> U$S 17!!! (send private) 05:48 < wojci> Hehe 05:51 < desaster> yeah he got killed 05:52 < wojci> Good enough. ;) 06:50 -!- mistral [mistral@212.159.71.212] has joined #uml 07:08 -!- frediz [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-13-170.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #uml 07:14 -!- frediz_ [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-31-78.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #uml 07:17 -!- frediz [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-13-170.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:32 -!- frediz_ is now known as frediz 07:33 < frediz> hi 07:33 -!- wojci [~wojci@3E6B61F0.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: brb] 07:33 -!- mistral [mistral@212.159.71.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 488 seconds] 07:34 < frediz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 839909376 Aug 10 22:47 root_fs 07:34 < frediz> and df 07:34 < frediz> Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on 07:34 < frediz> /dev/ubd/0 59386 59386 0 100% / 07:34 -!- wojci [~wojci@3E6B61F0.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #uml 07:35 < frediz> question why I do I have no space left on my uml hd device 07:35 < frediz> and my root_fs file is so huge ? 07:36 < wojci> frediz: How big is your image, and what distro do you use? 07:36 < frediz> 13:35 < frediz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 839909376 Aug 10 22:47 root_fs 07:36 < frediz> 13:35 < frediz> and df 07:36 < frediz> 13:35 < frediz> Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on 07:37 < frediz> 13:35 < frediz> /dev/ubd/0 59386 59386 0 100% / 07:37 < frediz> hi wojci 07:37 < frediz> btw my network is now working :) 07:39 < wojci> frediz: Make a larger filesystem, you can use dd, pipe and resisefs. 07:39 < wojci> I meant that you can add some space to your existing filesystem. 07:39 < frediz> hey, but this one is 800M!! 07:39 < frediz> and df shows me 60M available 07:40 < frediz> is that right ? 07:40 < wojci> frediz: Try 'df -h'. 07:40 < frediz> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on 07:40 < frediz> /dev/ubd/0 58M 58M 0 100% / 07:41 < wojci> My debian stable system: 07:41 < wojci> /dev/ubd/0 252M 102M 143M 42% / 07:41 < wojci> Hehe 07:41 < frediz> erf 07:41 < wojci> frediz: So, why do you _think_ that your filesystem is 800 MB? 07:42 -!- jax [~Nimaj@148.100.218.121] has joined #uml 07:44 < frediz> 'cause root_fs is 800M 07:45 < frediz> and that should be almost equivalent 07:46 < wojci> The file on your hosts filesystem can be 800 MB, and the filesystem can be 58M. 07:46 < frediz> god 07:46 < frediz> ?! 07:47 < wojci> You need to resize the filesystem. 07:48 < frediz> its 800M and I should enlarge it more ? 07:48 < wojci> frediz: man resize2fs. 07:48 < frediz> ah ok just resizefs not dd... 07:48 < wojci> frediz: Yes, try to use resize2fs first. 07:48 < frediz> ok thx :) 07:49 < wojci> frediz: Find out how large your file is, use this size with resizefs - it will complain (I belive) and tell you that the file system can only be less than your size - use the size it proposes and it will work. 07:59 < frediz> IAM TOO STUPID 07:59 -!- arthur [~arthur@66.124.232.119] has joined #uml 07:59 * frediz slaps forehead 07:59 < arthur> just downloaded the jail-dns root-fs ?what would the root passwd be? 08:00 < wojci> arthur: Blank/"root"? mount the image, and change it if not. 08:00 < frediz> would... none, root ? 08:00 < frediz> :) 08:00 < arthur> none of the usual suspects 08:08 * jax is away: @work 08:13 -!- ticallion [~ticallion@213.175.160.191] has joined #uml 08:18 < frediz> wojci: ok it works perfectly 08:21 < ticallion> k, gotta conserve battery power, typing with the monitor off 08:21 * ticallion sighs 08:21 < ticallion> safe 08:24 < ticallion> http://www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/ <- I'm giving an iptables tutorial on freenode, details at that url, it's on the 15th, on the 23rd, advanced stuff, modular scripting, cookbook.... feel free guys 08:26 < wojci> ticallion: There are tons of tutorials and howto, why would I waste my time on "listening" to you on IRC? 08:26 < wojci> howtos even 08:26 < frediz> hehe 08:27 < frediz> Im pure n00b 08:27 < frediz> ticallion: which chan ? 08:28 < ticallion> wojci: that's cos u dunno how much of an iptables guru i am, anyway, throught next week, I'll be taking suggestions for recipes, I'll post it on the site when possible 08:28 < ticallion> frediz: #iptables 08:29 < ticallion> wojci: besides, can u spell i'n't'e'r'a'c't'i'v'e?! 08:29 < frediz> hehe peace 08:29 < ticallion> not too long ago, whenever somebody asked an ipchains question, I would walk them through firewalling their machine with iptables, we've come a long way indeed 08:29 < wojci> ticallion: Who is "u"? 08:29 < ticallion> frediz: it's all good 08:30 < wojci> ticallion: I refuse to learn from someone that speak lamespeak. 08:30 < wojci> ticallion: "u" "thx" etc. 08:30 < ticallion> wojci: feel free to make ur absence felt dude... no problem 08:30 < wojci> That is just too much l33t 4aXX0r. 08:30 < ticallion> it's not lamespeak u fanatic, it's quicker typing 08:31 < ticallion> out of habit u ive league/mensa/need something to be fanatical about to find myself 08:31 < wojci> ticallion: Sorry - I am a #linux (undernet) regular. I/we call it lamespeak. 08:32 < ticallion> wojci: what exactly is lamespeak to u?! 08:32 < wojci> ticallion: Mind that I do not call you lame, I just dislike that way of writing. 08:32 < wojci> ticallion: "it's quicker typing" is lamespeak. 08:32 < wojci> heh 08:32 < wojci> blah 08:32 < wojci> Forget my last sentence. 08:33 < ticallion> wojci: yeah well, it's fine by me u feel that way :) 08:33 < ticallion> my point is, they sound the same, it's not like I'm trying to sound cool or something?! u know?! 08:33 < desaster> u r all silly!!11 08:34 < ticallion> desaster: danke 08:34 * ticallion cocks hammer on ak47 08:34 < wojci> ticallion: But it is not english, you f00l ;P 08:34 < ticallion> and yes, I do own one 08:34 < ticallion> go figure 08:34 < wojci> Terrorists !? -;) 08:34 < ticallion> wojci: I guess 08:34 < ticallion> wojci: no, they're leftovers from the war 08:35 < wojci> ticallion: What war? 08:35 < wojci> Oh .. Lebanon 08:35 < ticallion> wojci: lebanese/israeli, lebanese/palestinian, lebanese/lebanese... :P 08:35 < ticallion> all kinds here 08:36 < wojci> ticallion: I live in the safe part of europe. No guns in my home. 08:36 < ticallion> wojci: beautiful, I'm going abroad around september... am not getting any guns with me :P 08:37 < wojci> ticallion: How exacly is life in Lebanon now? 08:37 < ticallion> wojci: it's fine, but umm, lots of corruption, so it's not easy "nor" is it my idea of a good life... 08:37 < wojci> ticallion: I must admit that you live in one of the most fscked up parts of our world - if I can trust the television. 08:37 < ticallion> wojci: lebanon's very small, everybody's connected 08:38 < ticallion> wojci: I don't recall the exact year, but the war must've ended in the early 90's 08:38 < ticallion> wojci: it's very cool living here if u have tons of cash, everything's allowed if u know the right people 08:39 < ticallion> wojci: but am sick of it, it's not "me" and umm, there isn't a huge market for linux here 08:39 < ticallion> wojci: used to, for like 2 years, when anybody could open up a mini-isp and start serving the masses, made some money back then, they stopped it though a couple of months back 08:40 < wojci> ticallion: Move to europe - if you are skillfull, you can probably get work in Germany or some other country around here. 08:40 < ticallion> wojci: I don't really like Germany, I think the majority of the people there are hicks (I did say majority) 08:41 < ticallion> wojci: I'm French, am applying to canada, uk, france, if I don't get any positive replies from companies I'm leaving in september 08:41 < ticallion> I'm looking for broadband and good snow 08:41 < ticallion> :) 08:42 < ticallion> however, Canada and the UK almost never have vacancies for lin-only jobs, they all want "meta-admins", not my ambition 08:42 -!- radical [~kernet@210.7.75.194] has joined #uml 08:44 < ticallion> anybody running RHL 7.3/8.0?! 08:49 -!- ticallion [~ticallion@213.175.160.191] has quit [Quit: clean mouse, jot down tutorial speak] 08:56 -!- frediz_ [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-28-196.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #uml 08:58 -!- jax-work [~computer_@148.100.213.237] has joined #uml 09:01 -!- frediz [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-31-78.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 501 seconds] 09:21 -!- Squik [~npa@ip-86-245.evc.net] has joined #uml 09:21 < Squik> hi 09:24 < Squik> is there somebody to help me ? 09:27 < jax-work> i can try to help, someone with more knowledge will be around sooner or later 09:28 < Squik> I think there is a problem with my host kernel because I tried many differents uml kernel and I always get signal11 09:28 -!- frediz_ [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-28-196.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Pw3t] 09:30 < jax-work> you get signal 11 when compiling a uml kernel? 09:30 < Squik> when launching the uml kernel 09:31 < Squik> for instance 09:31 < Squik> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). 09:31 < Squik> Mounted devfs on /dev 09:31 < Squik> INIT: version 2.83 booting 09:31 < Squik> Child 17802 exited with signal 11 09:32 < jax-work> i'll continue looking, i haven't seen that yet 09:33 < jax-work> the only thing i can think of is if you haven't patched the host with skas, and didn't leave tt support in the uml kernel, or something along those lines 09:34 < Squik> I think it is because of the 2.6.0-test3 host kernel ..., is there a skas patch for this branch ? 09:35 < jax-work> i haven't been paying attention to the 2.6 testing, i think people were just using the 2.4 skas3 patch, but don't take my word on it 09:35 < jax-work> maybe you can find out what people are doing through the channel archives 09:36 < Squik> good idea 09:39 < jax-work> frediz had a similar problem, but he formatted before it was resolved 09:40 < jax-work> his kernel would crash when mounting /proc, and there was a possibility of not have a proc directory in his file system 09:40 < jax-work> there was a suggestion of running strace on his kernel 09:41 < jax-work> it was also discussed in the mailing list, geocrawler has it http://www.geocrawler.com/mail/thread.php3?subject=%5Buml-user%5D+Signal+11&list=597 09:41 < jax-work> good luck 10:12 < Squik> thank you, I will investigate more on stable kernel 10:21 -!- AquaJo [~torbofh@217.228.194.177] has joined #uml 10:36 -!- G2 [~G2@193.195.148.66] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 10:46 < com4> about that speed thing, apperently i'm just whiney 10:46 < com4> i did a time make on compiling vim 10:46 < com4> on both the UML and the host 10:46 < com4> it apperently compiled faster on the uml ;p 10:55 < jax-work> do you have any performance tips? 10:56 < com4> i have the skas patch 10:56 < com4> and i just added tmpfs to the host 10:56 < com4> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,size=1G 0 0 10:56 < com4> is what's in my fstab 10:56 < com4> and i have 512KB ram 10:57 < com4> scratch that, 350 or so MB ram :) 10:57 < com4> kb 10:57 < com4> heh 10:57 < com4> ah, this is why i shouldn't be up in the morn 11:35 -!- mistral [mistral@jstevenson.plus.com] has joined #uml 11:57 -!- mistral [mistral@jstevenson.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:25 -!- wojci [~wojci@3E6B61F0.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:29 -!- Aetherios [~jeff@robocop.valueclick.com] has joined #uml 12:38 -!- spenne [~spenneb@248.20.204.212.sr2.DTM1.ip.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:45 -!- AquaJo [~torbofh@217.228.194.177] has quit [Quit: Die Liebe ist wie die Zahl Pi: Natürlich, irrational und sehr, sehr wichtig.] 13:26 -!- radical [~kernet@210.7.75.194] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 13:42 -!- scoff [~scoff@aep.mpei.ac.ru] has joined #uml 13:46 -!- Aetherios [~jeff@robocop.valueclick.com] has quit [] 13:52 -!- BB [~chris@216.127.67.147] has joined #uml 13:59 -!- dunc [~dunc@geology.thebunker.net] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 14:04 -!- AquaJo [~torbofh@pD9559F08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #uml 15:04 -!- G2 [~gdive23@212.159.59.85] has joined #uml 15:06 -!- scoff [~scoff@aep.mpei.ac.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28 -!- Aetherios [~jeff@64.70.54.15] has joined #uml 15:36 -!- dunc [~dunc@217.79.100.249.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #uml 15:40 -!- frediz [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-28-209.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #uml 15:40 < frediz> hi all 15:40 < caker> hola 15:40 < frediz> hey caker ! 15:41 < frediz> guess what 15:41 < caker> what? 15:41 < frediz> Networking works 15:41 < frediz> :)) 15:41 < caker> how? 15:41 < solarce> voodoo 15:42 < frediz> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=user-mode-linux-user&m=106071138731147&w=2 15:42 < Aetherios> frediz: congrats man, what was it? 15:42 < frediz> tricky 15:42 < frediz> :)) 15:42 < caker> oh crap, you were using 2.6? 15:42 * caker bonk 15:42 < frediz> yep lol 15:43 < frediz> caker: You knew about it ? 15:43 < Aetherios> well...at least i feel less-stupid for not getting it to work ;-) 15:43 < frediz> sure 15:43 < caker> frediz: I saw the post Jeff quoted 15:43 < frediz> ok :\ 15:43 < frediz> all those hours 15:44 < frediz> its working like a charm 15:45 < frediz> next challenge, build a gentoo root fs 15:45 < frediz> +ing 15:45 < caker> Anyone have trouble with "touch" setting files back to epoch mtime, but modifying the file otherwise sets mtime correctly? I believe NFS is in the mix 15:45 < Aetherios> frediz, i got one 15:45 < frediz> Aetherios: woow 15:45 < frediz> great 15:45 < frediz> how did u do ? 15:46 < frediz> Did you manage to boot the iso with the initrd or so ? 15:46 < Aetherios> frediz...well, i tried what they reccomended on gentoo's site, but it kept giving very _strange_ errors when i tried to emerge sync...so i just mounted the root_fs file, and chroot'd. then emerge'd sync, and it worked much better 15:46 < Aetherios> no 15:47 < frediz> actually I tried this 15:47 < Aetherios> i did it the easy way ;-) 15:47 < dunc> hi guys 15:47 < frediz> but got either proc errors at boot 15:47 < caker> dunc: hola 15:47 < frediz> hi 15:47 < Aetherios> hey dunc 15:47 < dunc> my gentoo rootfs is cool Aetherios / frediz 15:47 < frediz> grrr 15:47 < frediz> :)) 15:48 < dunc> just did a stage1 and then emerge system 15:48 < frediz> ok my turn guys 15:48 < dunc> then tarred it up 15:48 < solarce> I wonder if I should release my series of lindows rootfs to the world 15:48 < Aetherios> solarce: god no! 15:48 < frediz> why do they bzip the tree then extract it ? 15:48 < solarce> Aetherios: :o 15:48 < solarce> http://godonlyknowsiamcrazy.com/lindows/ 15:48 < solarce> :) 15:49 < frediz> lol 15:49 < solarce> only kidding 15:49 < dunc> frediz: just so you have a rootfs in a tar i guess. 15:49 < dunc> easy then 15:49 < frediz> mmm 15:49 < dunc> i'm doing that for work i reckon 15:49 < frediz> I just did the same but leave it 15:49 < Aetherios> frediz: yeah, i kinda modified those instructions...they seemed ver inefficient, and i was in a hurry 15:50 < dunc> compile a optimised system for our stock boxes 15:50 < frediz> Aetherios: ok 15:50 < dunc> and then install is doddle, and also a known event 15:50 < frediz> so lets have try now 15:53 < frediz> did anybody kinda bench skas | w/o skas kernels ? (though this is not its aim) 15:54 < AquaJo> real works benchmark: without load >5 15:54 < AquaJo> with <1 15:54 < AquaJo> *g* 16:09 -!- frediz [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-28-209.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:12 -!- frediz [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-28-209.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #uml 16:26 -!- jax-work [~computer_@148.100.213.237] has quit [Quit: going home] 16:47 -!- frediz [~frediz@ALyon-209-1-28-209.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 501 seconds] 16:57 -!- pirlouit [~peter@64.162.195.202] has joined #uml 17:02 * jax is back (gone 08:54:26) 17:03 -!- AquaJo [~torbofh@pD9559F08.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Die Liebe ist wie die Zahl Pi: Natürlich, irrational und sehr, sehr wichtig.] 17:22 -!- G2 [~gdive23@212.159.59.85] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 18:34 -!- Aetherios [~jeff@64.70.54.15] has quit [] 18:56 * jax is away: movies 19:27 -!- stbe [~Nimaj@148.100.218.121] has joined #uml 19:27 -!- jax [~Nimaj@148.100.218.121] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:34 -!- anon [~anon@dsl-200-67-146-73.prodigy.net.mx] has joined #uml 20:37 -!- arthur [~arthur@66.124.232.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 488 seconds] 20:41 -!- Umler [~anon@dsl-200-67-146-73.prodigy.net.mx] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10 -!- Aetherios [~jeff@robocop.valueclick.com] has joined #uml 21:12 -!- pirlouit [~peter@64.162.195.202] has quit [Quit: Time to frag!] 21:14 -!- anon [~anon@dsl-200-67-146-73.prodigy.net.mx] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 21:14 -!- Umler [~anon@200.67.146.73] has joined #uml 21:26 * stbe is back (gone 01:59:22) 21:26 -!- stbe is now known as jax 21:59 -!- Aetherios [~jeff@robocop.valueclick.com] has quit [] 22:38 -!- Umler [~anon@200.67.146.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 490 seconds] 22:39 -!- Aetherios [~jeff@24.199.13.10] has joined #uml 22:40 -!- Umler [~anon@dsl-200-67-146-73.prodigy.net.mx] has joined #uml 23:28 -!- Aetherios [~jeff@24.199.13.10] has quit [Quit: Computer going to sleep...] --- Log closed Thu Aug 14 00:00:00 2003