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00:48 < Cowboy> does 2.6.0-test3-mm2 work (unmodified) as a UML host ? ... any special compile options needed ?
00:50 < Cowboy> Debian's rootstrap is giving me grief trying setup a simple uml (networking section dies):
00:50 < Cowboy> Using rootstrap module network from:
00:50 < Cowboy>         /usr/lib/rootstrap/modules/network
00:50 < Cowboy> tuntap_open_tramp failed - errno = 22
00:50 < Cowboy> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Invalid argument
00:50 < Cowboy> SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
00:55 < Cowboy> this is the stanza in /etc/rootstrap/roostrap.conf 
00:55 < Cowboy> interface=eth0
00:55 < Cowboy> transport=tuntap
00:55 < Cowboy> host=172.16.0.1
00:55 < Cowboy> uml=172.16.0.2
00:55 < Cowboy> netmask=255.255.255.0
00:56 < desaster> you got the tun module loaded?
00:56 < Cowboy> yes, and in fact there is a tun0 device on the host
00:57 < Cowboy> ooh, I wonder if the netmask should be 255.255.255.255
00:58 < Cowboy> no change :(
00:58 < desaster> could you check via ps how the uml is actually being ran?
01:00 < desaster> brb work
01:00 < Cowboy> eth0=tuntap,,,172.16.0.1 con0=fd:0,fd:1 con=pty root=/dev/root rootflags=/ 
01:00 < Cowboy> rootfstype=hostfs ubd1=mts_root init=/usr/lib/rootstrap/builder devfs=mount rswo
01:00 < Cowboy> rkdir=/local/home/cowboy
01:02 < Cowboy> and removing the already extant tun0 didn't help anything
01:08 < Cowboy> aha...  digging through the debian bug system got it... I'm not in uml_net (nor root)
01:10 < desaster> ah
01:10 < desaster> though you could have added a tuntap device for your user by doing tunctl -u cowboy ...
01:13 < Cowboy> do you use rootstrap ?
01:16 < desaster> nope
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04:47 < dunc> morning chaps
05:35 < desaster> i wonder if anyone has merged skas3 and grsecurity
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06:48 < G2_> nightmare to do
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07:04 < anders> uml+2.4.21?
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07:22 < wojci> If I attach gvd(frontend to gdb) to linux-2.4.20-UML, I notice that while logging, tty id 2686373888 is opened and closed a lot of times. 
07:23 < wojci> For example, if I reboot the UML, while reading the logs I get this:
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_OPEN: buffer.tty =2747523072
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_OPEN: buffer.tty =2748551168
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_CLOSE: buffer.tty =2747523072
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_CLOSE: buffer.tty =2748551168
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_CLOSE: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_OPEN: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_OPEN: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_CLOSE: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_OPEN: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_CLOSE: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_OPEN: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_CLOSE: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_OPEN: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_CLOSE: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> TTY_LOG_OPEN: buffer.tty =2686373888
07:23 < wojci> .. Is it just me, or is it that the output makes little sense ..
07:26 < wojci> *Agggrrh* 
07:26  * wojci jumps up and down to get some attention ..
08:57 < frediz> :))
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13:04 < Idcmp> has anyone tried setting up iface aliases on a uml instance (ala eth0:1, etc) before?
13:05 < Idcmp> my bridge seems to be rejecting them or something.
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13:17 < jimcooncat> folks - want to set up clean hd with a small host distro - tried vectorlinux (bombed), gentoo (got confused), sourcemage (nice but incomplete). What do you suggest?
13:18 < BB> poor gentoo ;)
13:18 < jeffpc> debian
13:18 < solarce> debian
13:19 < jimcooncat> thanks, I
13:19 < jimcooncat> I'll give it a shot. btw I got confused on gentoo, not other way around
13:20 < anders> Whatabout uml+2.4.21?
13:22 < solarce> anders: there are some uml patches for 2.4.21, I have them compiled nicely
13:22 < anders> solarce: Where?
13:22 < anders> Is there even a bk tree?
13:23 < BB> hmmm Burger king
13:24 < anders> Yeah. A nice big whopper.
13:24 < solarce> http://kernels.usermodelinux.org/patches/uml-patch-2.4.21.bz2
13:26 < BB> if only they did delivery
13:31 < Idcmp> ohh a working 2.4.21 patch
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14:35 < Idcmp> i guess ethernet interfaces with aliases don't work with uml
14:50 < Umler> Idcmp: you must be joking...
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14:57 < Idcmp> Umler: i have an instance with eth0 and eth0:1, it responds on eth0, but not eth0:1
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15:06 < Umler> Actually, couldnt the ip alias IP be assigned to a tap interface?
15:07 < Idcmp> i don't think i need to do that
15:08 < Idcmp> doing eth0=tuntap,foo eth0:1=tuntap,foo2 doesn't seem right to me
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15:09 < Idcmp> ahh proxy_arp
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15:12 < Nos> hello any one in here know why a uml would loose its inet connection with tuntap?
15:12 < Umler> Oh, I meant forgetting about the ip alias, and just using the IP that you were going to use for the IP alias, and giving it to the tap. but nevermind me, I am a super newbie still working out this stuff myself.
15:15 < Nos> ok back later
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17:16 < crusier> Has any one had any luck with building 2.6.0.test-3 UML on Debian Woody?
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18:00 < thatrichard> My vm keeps hanging.  rescuehalt reports "mconsole is stuck".  Can anyone help?
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18:05 < thatrichard> Is there any way to use vmadmin to clear all existing consoles?
18:32 < Cowboy> mdz: AYT ?
18:35 < thatrichard> Cowboy: any chance you could help with an mconsole problem?
18:37 < Cowboy> thatrichard: nah, just started w/uml last night... btw, I'm also a Richard :)
18:37 < thatrichard> :-)
18:37 < thatrichard> that's two newbie richards
18:43 < mdz> Cowboy: yep
18:51 < Cowboy> mdz: cool... I can't get pbuilder-uml login to work, while create/update does...  also I see you had makedev updated to use ubda1 instead of ubd1 - is that in newer uml versions ?
18:52 < mdz> Cowboy: I don't really have anything to do with pbuilder-uml
18:52 < mdz> that's all Junichi Uekawa's work
18:52 < Cowboy> yeah, figured that, but thought you might have helped him with it :)
18:52 < mdz> Cowboy: yes, newer UMLs support partitions on ubd devices
18:53 < Cowboy> I need to build a UML kernel (with freeswan)  was thinking of using the source for your kernel... seem reasonable ?
18:54 < mdz> Cowboy: yeah, there's a README in the package with a few tips for building custom UML kernels with it
18:54 < mdz> /usr/share/doc/user-mode-linux/README.Debian
18:55 < mdz> Cowboy: manoj has talked about adding UML support to kernel-package for a while now, but nothing concrete yet
18:55 < Cowboy> cool, thanks... this let me run 2.6, and still use the corporate VPN (based on freeswan + hacks)
18:56 < Cowboy> though it will look odd: route 9.0.0.0/8 -> UML where freeswan will route it out IPSEC back to mybox -> out the net
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18:57 < Cowboy> at least I'm hoping it'll work that way :)
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19:00 < Cowboy> mdz: did you know the makedev update deleted ubd1, instead of just adding the new stuff ?
19:00 < mdz> Cowboy: no
19:01 < Cowboy> I think that may be my problem with pbuilder-uml login
19:01 < mdz> Cowboy: well, it stopped makedev from creating the old devices, but didn't remove existing ones
19:01 < Cowboy> ah... this is a new install of sarge/sid, so the old ones aren't there
19:02 < mdz> th old devices don't really work; there aren't correct major/minors for them anymore
19:12 < Cowboy> mdz: oic... thanks.   I'm pulling the source now, at least I can get in to the UML manually and do what I need :)
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19:25 < Idcmp> boo
19:26 < Idcmp> i still can't get eth0:1 to respond to pings.. :(
19:47 < Idcmp> apparently ip aliases don't work through bridges
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20:26 < jdike> hi guys
20:32 < Idcmp> hey!
20:35 < Cowboy> new kernel compiling, will soon know if this'll save me (let me run 2.6 & still have 2.4/freeswan connectivity)
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23:11 < Darth> hihi
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23:15 < Darth> any uml experts about
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23:33 < crash3m> is it possible to break out of UML and gain access to the system its running on?
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23:57 < coryb> crash3m: survey says, ""
23:57 < coryb> eh, just kidding. there is some info on the uml site.
23:58 < crash3m> you can point a lunatic to a haystack...but will he light it on fire is the question
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