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07:03 < knewt> caker: hmm. starting from germany i don't get further than so-2-0-0.ham10.ip.tiscali.net, but from the uk it's rbii-rt1-e0-16.blackcat.net.uk
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07:15 < nextime> is xensource.com site down?
07:17 < murb> nextime: the ip for it seems to be in the same colo as my machine, and isn't pingable, they did have a powerfailure with one rack yesterday so that could explain it.
07:17 < nextime> murb : ok thanks
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07:20 < murb> the isp has a channel #blackcat on this network if anyone cared enough to ask.
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07:23 < murb> hmm ok seems as if atleast some of the ips ping, so maybe they didn't fix everything after the power ouage.
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14:24 < murb> good evening, has anyone played with freebsd under Xen?
14:46 < Sir_Ahzz> why would I do that/ I have windows after all. :)
14:47 < Sir_Ahzz> all anyone ever needs is a good install of windows.
14:47  * Sir_Ahzz RUNS!
14:51 < murb> I'm having problems with it crashing under load with a panic: failed to execute MMU updates -22
14:52 < Sir_Ahzz> no idea. I ue linux.
14:52 < Sir_Ahzz> sorry
14:54 < murb> I think the kernel i have might be quite old as it is from a snapshot of fsmware.com which tends to be down most of the time :(
14:54 < Sir_Ahzz> heh
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16:37 < knewt> murb: although you need a running freebsd environment to build it, you know that the xen freebsd support is now in the xen tree, right?
16:37 < murb> yep
16:38 < murb> i'm trying to use the mroot distributed to build it
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20:23 < eigood> getting iscsi to work is hard
20:23 < eigood> there are no good iscsi targets
20:23 < eigood> and almost all are old
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22:01 < cw> _MarkW: have people stopped pushing stuff into the xeno-unstable.bk tree?
22:02 < _MarkW> cw: what's the last changeset you can see?
22:03 < cw> ChangeSet@1.1283, 2005-04-07 09:19:23+01:00, kaf24@firebug.cl.cam.ac.uk
22:08 < _MarkW> cw: there are a few more changesets queued up here
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22:08 < _MarkW> i've pushed them up to bkbits
22:09 < cw> ah ok, i wondered if there was a quiet move away from bk or something
22:09 < _MarkW> you should be able to see them now.  looks like some updates to x86 linux and some fixes for x86_64
22:10 < _MarkW> no move from BK yet.
22:10 < _MarkW> we'll be waiting on what Linus chooses, then probably copy him.
22:13 < cw> fair enough
22:17 < riel> I'll have to write new changelog scripts ;)
22:17 < riel> (or copy what kernel.org will be using)
22:19  * _MarkW plays with grant tables
22:20 < _MarkW> riel: yes, i guess so.  last i heard, linus was keen on monotone.  i hadn't heard of it before.
22:35 < cw> speaking of grant tables, are there plans for a generic inter-domain memory sharing mechanism?
22:35 < _MarkW> at application level, you mean?
22:35 < cw> _MarkW: ill bet he wont go for monotone, if it was 100x faster it would still be unusable
22:35 < cw> _MarkW: well, kernel level
22:35 < cw> _MarkW: application level could be mapped into userspace easily enough
22:36 < _MarkW> i'd have said grant tables were a generic interdomain sharing mechanism?
22:36 < cw> yes.  but it's not clear to me how i can share vmalloc'd memory to another domain
22:37 < _MarkW> ah
22:37 < _MarkW> you'd have to interate through the pages and make grant refs for each of them, i guess.
22:40 < _MarkW> you'd also have to do that for kmalloc'd memory i imagine.
22:42 < cw> yeah, that's what i thought
22:42 < cw> i wondered if there was a way to do it for ranges
22:42 < cw> also, if i did this with 16M of memory, might there be an performance issues?
22:43 < riel> not really
22:44 < riel> you do the granting once, then use it as a giant ring buffer ;)
22:44 < cw> well, in this case it's not really going to be a ring-buffer
22:44 < cw> well, it could be, but that wasn't the intention
22:46 < _MarkW> cw: whether it's a performance problem depends on what you do
22:46 < _MarkW> as riel says, if you only do the granting once it's not on the fast path
22:48 < cw> just once
22:48 < cw> well, once per domain obviously
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22:50 < _MarkW> cw: okie.  zero overhead once the mapping is done, anyhow.  i'm not sure how many grant refs are allowed per domain, tho...
22:53 < _MarkW> ok, it looks like 4 pages of 16 bit grant refs per domain.  = 8192 grant refs per domain.  = maximum of 32Meg shared.
22:54 < cw> hrm, were is that limit set?
22:55 < _MarkW> there's asm-xen/gnttab.h, which sets how many Linux
22:55 < _MarkW> how many Linux will use, that is
22:56 < cw> _MarkW: so work case i can frob xen/include/xen/grant_table.h and bump the order i take it?
22:57 < _MarkW> there's also include/xen/grant_table.h, which sets the maximum any domain is allowed to use
22:57 < _MarkW> so it looks like you can bump both of those values and you'll get more references.
22:59 < cw> well, right now 32MB is plenty i suspect
23:00 < _MarkW> cw: indeed
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23:17 < _MarkW> aha!
23:17 < _MarkW> i successfully used grant tables for the first time.  now it's past my bedtime.
23:17 < _MarkW> gnight all!
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