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10:41 < hebutterworth> Would appreciate help from anyone experienced with xend...
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10:41 < hebutterworth> when I add a USB device to a front end domain, it creates the back-end domain controller
10:42 < hebutterworth> but the creation of the back-end domain controller in xend appears to prevent the back-end domain from shutting down cleanly
10:42 < hebutterworth> shutdown just loops
10:43 < hebutterworth> Any ideas what needs to be done to clean up the back-end controller during shutdown would be appreciated.
10:44 < mael> too bad Mark is not there at the moment
10:47 < soffi> man I don't want to be in work today
10:47 < soffi> grr
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11:18 < hollis> jimix: so did I talk you into running with interrupts enabled?
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12:03 < smcavoy> hello
12:04 < smcavoy> I am running Debian sarge and have installed the experimental packages for xen. I am just starting to build a xen enabled kernel, ran the patch, but I don't see anything identifying it as xen patched. am I missing something?
12:06 < plars> smcavoy: it will build the xen kernels for you, you just need to do a make world
12:07 < smcavoy> plars: make world? I was going to use make-kpkg to build it.
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12:24 < hollis> jimix: I was confused about "interrupts" vs "exceptions" on x86
12:24 < hollis> jimix: interrupts are not enabled before calling the C handler, of course
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12:42 < jimix> hollis: whew
12:50 < jimix> hollis: so two things come to mind. 1) if we want a timer interrupt in HV we should use DEC rather than HDEC.  2) if we do _not_ want timers we can just set it high +'ve so we never get it.
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13:30 < riel> oh crud
13:30 < riel> this isn't right at all
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13:31 < riel> how can HYPERVISOR_update_va_mapping() fail only when the xenU host runs mount ?
13:31 < riel> and work fine with the earlier processes
13:31 < riel> in do_no_page -> do_anonymous_page, even 
13:41 < matta-lt> uh....
13:43 < riel> Failed update VA mapping: bf9e1f48, 03696067, 00000000
13:43 < riel> ------------[ cut here ]------------
13:43 < riel> kernel BUG at include/asm-xen/hypervisor.h:484!
13:43 < riel> ...
13:43 < riel> EIP is at do_anonymous_page+0x1df/0x220
13:43 < riel> ...
13:43 < riel> Call Trace:
13:43 < riel>  [<c0159570>] do_no_page+0x200/0x3c0
13:43 < riel> ...
13:43 < matta-lt> this is a current unstable?
13:43 < riel> it's the same xen code that worked in fedora kernel 1226
13:43 < matta-lt> oh
13:43 < matta-lt> weird
13:44 < riel> pulled up to the current upstream kernel (2.6.12-rc2)
13:44 < riel> but no changes in this code since kernel 1225 or so
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14:07 < hebutterworth> I posted a question earlier about xend requirements for clean shutdown of driver domains.
14:07 < hebutterworth> Not sure if anyone is thinking about it.
14:07 < hebutterworth> Anyway, it turns out that the xend file controller.py has a number of bugs which prevent clean shutdown of driver domains.
14:07 < hebutterworth> I have it working now.
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14:24 < aliguori> reil: i was having the same message occur.. it turned out to be a grant table issue
14:24 < aliguori> riel: seems logical too that it occurs only at mount
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14:42 < riel> aliguori: oh ok
14:42 < riel> aliguori: strange that it didn't happen before
14:42 < riel> aliguori: also, how can the "grant tabled" memory cause an oops in the page fault path ?
14:42  * riel will try a blind upgrade - that does often help ;)
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14:51 < aliguori> riel: i'm not sure.. i've not looked at the grant table stuff much at all
14:51 < aliguori> it could be coincidence
14:52 < riel> quite possibly
14:52 < riel> I'll just go for the random upgrade ;)
14:52  * riel & bk pull
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15:51 < smcavoy> hello. I have xen installed  on sarge (from experimental). I compiled a kernel from 2.6.10 patched with the kernel-patch package. when I try to start xen after booting the new kernel I get an error:
15:51 < smcavoy> ERROR: Could not obtain handle on privileged command interface (2 = No such file or directory)
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15:51 < smcavoy> I get that when I run xend start (/etc/init.d/xend start exits right away)
15:52 < smcavoy> any ideas what I might be missing?
15:52 < aliguori> smcavoy: are you not starting it as root?
15:52 < smcavoy> aliguori: I am root when I run it
15:56 < plars> smcavoy: are you sure you're booted into the xen kernel?
15:56 < plars> smcavoy: what does uname -a say?
15:57 < smcavoy> Linux xen0 2.6.10-xen #1 SMP Thu Apr 14 12:14:28 EDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
15:57 < smcavoy> plars
15:57 < plars> does /proc/xen/privcmd exist?
15:57 < smcavoy> plars: I compiled the kernel with make-kpkg after applying the patch to the system (the debian kernel-patch from experimental)
15:58 < plars> smcavoy: not familiar with doing it that way personally
15:58 < smcavoy> plars: no. I searched /proc for any mention of xen.
15:58 < smcavoy> plars: so it sounds like I am not running a xen kernel then
15:58 < eigood> the init script checks whether that file exists, and exits before starting python if it doesn't
15:58 < eigood> so, that file does exist
15:59 < plars> it *looks* like you're running a xen kernel, but possibly you didn't get everything patched in
15:59 < eigood> did you enable privledged operations in the kernel config?
15:59 < aliguori> yeah
15:59 < plars> it could look that way and all you got is the toplevel makefile change for extraversion
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15:59 < aliguori> it sounds like you're using a domU kernel in dom0
15:59 < plars> eh, possibly
16:00 < plars> actually
16:00 < smcavoy> aliguori: that could be it then. 
16:00 < plars> it should say xen0
16:00 < plars> not just xen
16:00 < plars> where'd you get this patch from?
16:00 < smcavoy> debian experimental 
16:00 < aliguori> sounds like the patch you got was for a domU kernel.. modify the config to make sure you have privileged ops enabled
16:00 < plars> smcavoy: might want to try just downloading one of the nightly tarballs and building it
16:01 < eigood> ther is no such thing as a dom0 or domU patch
16:01 < eigood> they are the same thing.
16:01 < aliguori> see
16:01 < eigood> plars: no
16:01 < eigood> the patch works
16:01 < aliguori> eigood: well, the configs going to be different then
16:01 < smcavoy> eigood: should the debian kernel patch have added any options to config interface?
16:01 < aliguori> you cannot use the same exact kernel from dom[0U]
16:01 < eigood> of course, but that has nothing to do with whether the patch is wrong
16:01 < eigood> smcavoy: make menuconfig ARCH=xen
16:02 < eigood> aliguori: actually, you can boot a dom0 kernel in a domU setup
16:02 < plars> eigood: didn't say the patch was wrong, I just don't personally know
16:02 < eigood> smcavoy: I'm the debian xen maintainer, btw
16:02 < plars> unless he's trying to test the patch specifically, I meant it might be easier just to use the tarball
16:02 < plars> ah, good :)
16:02 < plars> he's the one you want to talk to then :)
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16:02 < smcavoy> excellent :)
16:02 < eigood> hmm.
16:02 < eigood> maybe I better hide
16:02 < plars> heh
16:04 < smcavoy> eigood: your patch is for debian's 2.6.10 only, right?
16:04 < eigood> no
16:05 < aliguori> eigood: you can boot, but that doesn't make it useful :-)
16:05 < eigood> I take kernel-source-2.6.10, unapply kernel-patch-2.6.10-debian, then overlay the xen sparse tree, and diff against pristine 2.6.10
16:05 < eigood> aliguori: it works fine
16:05 < eigood> can't do dom0 stuff, of course, but it works as a domU kernel no prob
16:05 < eigood> it actually means you don't have to compile 2 kernels
16:07 < aliguori> eigood: if you've got PRIVILEGED_GUEST enabled, you're going to do some things differently
16:07 < aliguori> i'm not surprised it still works
16:07 < aliguori> but i wouldn't be surprised if it broke at some point
16:08 < eigood> we don't do that normally; just happened once accidentally
16:10 < aliguori> ahh
16:10 < aliguori> eigood: so what has been the debian's communities reaction to xen?
16:11 < aliguori> eigood: what do they want the most?
16:13 < eigood> they seem to like the packages
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21:33 < rene-> is there anyway i can balloon domain-0 above what grubs dom0_mem?
21:33 < rene-> or alternatively, can i use something liek dom0_mem=75%
21:33 < rene-> liek==like
21:33 < rene-> reason being, i need to install xen0 on 300 odd servers
21:34 < rene-> with all of them have different amounts of memory
21:34 < rene-> and im probably going to be using a static grub menu.lst
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