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02:58 < mael> hi
03:03 < chrish01> hi mael 
03:13 < rusty> Tools are a gigantic mess.
03:13 < chrish01> vmtools?
03:15 < rusty> Both vmtools and the current crap.
03:15 < chrish01> current crap = xm? :-)
03:16 < mael> hi rusty 
03:16 < rusty> vmtools is too immature, and xm is just a nasty pile...
03:16 < rusty> mael: hi.
03:16 < mael> isn't the gigantic mess related to the "xenbus" stuff? :)
03:16 < chrish01> i actually like the xend stuff. i just wish it had some platform specific additions
03:16 < bunoc> rusty, what is nasty about xm?
03:16 < rusty> mael: unfortunately, yes.  Otherwise I wouldn't be touching it.
03:17 < chrish01> like duplicate machine which could intern make sure everything works like copying images, etc ...
03:17 < rusty> bunoc: have you tried hacking on it?
03:17 < bunoc> rusty, yes, i am looking at it
03:17 < chrish01> is the xend api going to change in 3.0?
03:17 < mael> mmh I meant, isn't the fact that xenbus is moving fast one of the main reason while vmtools are immature, as a start?
03:17 < chrish01> cause im writing that gtk gui against the xend api from 2.0.6
03:18 < bunoc> chrish01, i think you better write it for 2.0 first
03:18 < chrish01> nod
03:18 < bunoc> then when 3.0-testing out, port it to
03:18 < rusty> mael: no, xenbus hasn't touched either of them yet.  Mike Wray has a version of his tools which is supposed to integrate it but domains immediately die.
03:18 < bunoc> wonder when 3.0-testing out ?
03:18 < chrish01> i very much want to find a way to add support to *duplicate* domain
03:19 < mael> chrish01:  will you have a kind of "xend api plugin" to allow multiple xend api version?
03:19 < chrish01> but its a very sticky area
03:19 < chrish01> mael, not at first
03:19 < chrish01> i think making something that works is most important
03:19 < mael> okay
03:19 < mael> yeah true
03:19 < chrish01> otherwise we get too much piping and no water :(
03:19 < bunoc> chrish01, what is duplicate domain?
03:20 < mael> vm cloning?
03:20 < chrish01> exactly
03:20 < mael> forking?
03:20 < chrish01> but the fs issue is where that gets sticky
03:20 < chrish01> ie, all my customers run on lvm + xen2.0.6
03:20 < mael> yeah you have to deal with fs issues also
03:20 < chrish01> which could be done with optional libxen additions
03:21 < chrish01> platform specific additions that is
03:21 < chrish01> if you didnt notice, my gui layout was mimicing vmware as much as possible :-)
03:22 < bunoc> chrish01, what your guide can do now?
03:22 < mael> chrish01:  I have to test vmware 5 gui on linux
03:22 < mael> they partly redesign it it seems
03:22 < mael> but I didn't like their previous guis
03:22 < mael> so please don't mimic it too much :)
03:22 < chrish01> i have friends at vmware. they did awesome job this time
03:24 < chrish01> still havent fixed my vesa 2 issue though =/
03:24 < mael> well I have a planned maintenance operation
03:24 < mael> see ya
03:24 < chrish01> cya
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11:19 < demon> is there any way using either the 'xm' command or the raw HTTP interface to xend to get the current scheduler parameters for a domain?
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12:08 < knewt> demon: not without adding linkage between the exported interface and the available functions, no
12:09 < knewt> although i'm not looking at the most recent -unstable here, so might have changed there. for -testing i've got a pretty recent version
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12:58 < demon> I dug through the xend code... it looks like there is a 'cpu_bvt_get' operation implemented in some library code, but it doesn't actually get exported as an invokable operation via xend
12:58 < demon> which kinda sucks :/
12:59 < demon> I may have to do some hacking to see if I can implement an interface to that
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13:16 < knewt> demon: it's as easy as...  in server/SrvDomain.oy
13:16 < knewt> .py
13:16 < knewt>     def op_cpu_bvt_get(self, op, req):
13:16 < knewt>         fn = FormFn(self.xd.domain_cpu_bvt_get,
13:16 < knewt>                     [['dom', 'str']])
13:16 < knewt>         val = fn(req.args, {'dom': self.dom.id})
13:16 < knewt>         return val
13:17 < knewt> and then in xendClient.py
13:17 < knewt>     def xend_domain_cpu_bvt_get(self, id):
13:17 < knewt>         return self.xendPost(self.domainurl(id),
13:17 < knewt>                              {'op'      : 'cpu_bvt_get' })
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