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03:34 < soffi> wusup dudes
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04:31 < mael> hi soffi 
04:31 < mael> back from hollidays?
04:31 < mael> -l
04:32 < soffi> hell yes
04:33 < soffi> how is life treating you these days?
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04:33 < mael> soffi:  well life's a bitch, you know :)
04:33 < soffi> hehe
04:34 < mael> I should survive for a little while though
04:34 < mael> taking a coffee will help
04:34 < soffi> mmm coffee good
04:34 < soffi> americans make weak coffee
04:34  * mael zombily walk to the next coffee shop
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08:55 < blurg> lo
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09:06 < mufa> hi, I have a strange problem with a xen domain. Everything works fine, but when I change its ip and hostname, the xen virtualdomain keeps rebooting.Any idea how could I fix that?
09:07 < blurg> at what stage it decides to reboot?
09:07 < mufa> it loads everything, gives me login prompt
09:07 < mufa> then it reboots
09:08 < blurg> you did not mess with the inittab?
09:08 < mufa> I havent touch it
09:08 < blurg> as in, default runlevel is 6? ;-)
09:08 < blurg> hmkay
09:08 < mufa> well, let me check
09:08 < blurg> what does your messages/syslog file say at the time of reboot?
09:09 < mufa> no, still 3 default runlevel
09:09 < mufa> last message is something about gpm
09:10 < blurg> which distro?
09:11 < mufa> fc4, both on xen server and on virtual domain
09:11 < blurg> hm
09:12 < blurg> don't understand, just rebooting without anything unusual logged.
09:12 < blurg> also checked the xm log?
09:13 < mufa> don't know what to look exactly in xend.log
09:13 < blurg> mom
09:14 < blurg> yeah, it also logs the time, so when you check around that time, that a reboot occurred?
09:15 < blurg> are you watching the console when you start up also
09:16 < mael> mufa:  gpm?
09:16 < mufa> yes, nothing strange in there
09:16 < mael> you have a X server running on your domain?
09:17 < blurg> mael: you also can use gpm for a xterm
09:17 < mael> blurg:  yeah you're right
09:18 < mufa> mael: I am pretty sure that gpm is not the problem
09:18 < blurg> so mufa, nothing weird around the reboot time in the xend.log?
09:18 < mufa> auci
09:18 < mufa> blurg: nothing I can see
09:19 < blurg> mufa: Well, not much I can tell about this the, I'm afraid. Checked the mailing lists about this prob (the archives)?
09:19 < blurg> mufa: I myself would trace the problem down with debugging verbosity and stracing, in the XenU and the Xen0 domain, I guess
09:20 < blurg> mufa: Or use Debian :)
09:20 < mufa> blurg: I can't use debian :(
09:20 < blurg> too expensive? ;-)
09:20 < mael> mufa:  even for a test?
09:21 < mufa> nope, thats the policy
09:21 < mufa> to use RH/FC
09:21 < blurg> mufa: I'm also quite new to xen, so next to search the archives, you can try another person around here, some other time
09:22 < mufa> I hope I'll find a solution soon
09:22 < mufa> thank for helping me
09:25 < mufa> hmm
09:25 < mufa> its going to runlevel 0
09:25 < blurg> that's halting, not rebooting
09:25 < blurg> weird?
09:26 < blurg> probably xen is also virtualizing hardware failures :-)))
09:27 < mufa> tell me about it
09:27 < blurg> after this halting, what does xm list say?
09:30 < mufa> shows both domain0 and virtual domain
09:30 < blurg> and what is the state of your virtual domain then? 
09:31 < mufa> wait a second
09:32 < mufa> b
09:42 < mufa> funny part is that even after I change back ip and hostaname, it keeps rebooting
09:44 < mufa> hmm, is it normal to have Domain0 state r?
09:44 < blurg> yeah
09:44 < mael> in fact, I don't really see the point of having the VM state, as you run the command under dom0
09:45 < mael> so dom0 is always r, while the others are waiting
09:45 < mael> well with 1 CPU at least :)
09:45 < mufa> mine is b
09:47 < mufa> strange
09:47 < mufa> domain0 is changing from r to b state 
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10:58 < mikegrb3> :)
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10:58 < mikegrb> :D
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11:10 < Tv> soo.. anyone ever set up a domU that runs X clients displaying to dom0?
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11:37 < marl_work> hi folks anyone around? im wanting to do an install of a distribution into domain1, is there a way to create the filesystem loopback devices to allow an equivilant of booting from the cd?
11:37 < marl_work> e.g. file:roorfs, file:swapfs, /dev/cdrom
11:38 < marl_work> and boot from cdrom?
11:38 < Tv> IIRC cd-roms are not supported in stable
11:38 < Tv> you can make it appear as a hard drive or partition
11:39 < marl_work> dou know if there is a way around it? say using an iso image of the rom?
11:39 < Tv> if you can make boot differently
11:39 < marl_work> nope :( 
11:39 < tab> marl_work: you want to boot a cdrom in domain1 ?
11:39 < marl_work> i cant even get boot floppy images for the dist
11:39 < marl_work> boot to cdrom in domain1 to allow installing from standard install cd
11:42 < marl_work> tv is cdrom booting supported in unstable?
11:43 < marl_work> or does anyone know of a howto describing how to install a distribution into a loopback filesystem from cdrom?
11:43  * Tv shrugs
11:43 < tab> marl_work: what distribution are you trying to install ?
11:43 < Tv> I don't have enough time to play with unstable
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11:43 < marl_work> tab, its a redhat based distribution, but VERY cut down, only the basics plus firewall/email stuff
11:44 < marl_work> and im running debian as domain0
11:44 < tab> marl_work: I think that's possible to boot the CD and install from it
11:45 < marl_work> GREAT :) 
11:45 < marl_work> now u any idea where i might find some docs for it?
11:45 < tab> but you need using a domU kernel (not the kernel on the CD)
11:45 < marl_work> cus ive searched google and the site and found nothing :(
11:45 < tab> and probably boot with lots of expert kind of flags
11:46 < tab> no sorry no docs available, i guess it would be cool to have one though
11:46 < marl_work> aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :(
11:47 < marl_work> anyone know if theres a utility for debain (or direct in redhat/fedora) similar to 'debootstrap' that will install redhat based rpms from apt sources into a mounted file system?
11:49 < tab> redhatstrap ?
11:49 < marl_work> nothing like that so far in my searching :(
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11:51 < tab> marl_work: I've heard something like exists though
11:51 < tab> maybe yumstrap or something like that
11:55 < Tv> marl_work: maybe you should use qemu..
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12:07 < marl_work> id tried qemu, but the performance wasnt as good as ive had out of xen so far :)
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12:09 < hollis> I've heard you can do 'yum --root=/mnt installgroup Base' or so
12:09 < hollis> (check the syntax of course)
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12:11 < marl_work> thanks hollis :)
12:12 < sdague> marl_work: related item is http://wiki.sisuite.org/BuildingLinuxChroots
12:12 < sdague> in case that helps
12:12 < marl_work> out of interest does apt give the same/similar option?
12:12 < marl_work> i dont remember seeing anything about in the apt man page
12:12 < mael> marl_work:  no but you have debootstrap as you said before
12:13 < hollis> sdague: ah that's handy :)
12:13 < marl_work> the redhat based dist i use, uses apt-get for installing
12:13 < sdague> hollis: yeh, I've been adding stuff to it in the eventual rebuilding of systeminstaller (which builds chroots for systemimager images)
12:14 < mael> ah ok you meant for a RH install with apt
12:14 < sdague> which is almost exactly what you need for xen images
12:14 < sdague> as well
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12:16 < blurg> marl_work: and rootstrap?
12:16 < marl_work> blurg, rootstrap?
12:16 < blurg> mark_work: see www.darkskills.org.uk/linux/rootstrap_aptcache.html - you can use rootstrap to build images from ISO's
12:16 < mael> marl_work:  maybe FAI can be used to help your install
12:17 < sdague> I think FAI is very tied to deb packages actually
12:18 < mael> yeah probably
12:19 < marl_work> thanks :)
12:26 < plars> is there an hg repo for xen yet?
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12:56 < tab> plars: no
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15:09 < jason_> has anybody been able to combine copy on write with live migration yet?
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15:16 < aliguori> jason_: howso?
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19:35 < newsham> what is VMX?
19:37 < hollis> according to Intel it's "Virtual Machine eXtensions"
19:37 < newsham> vanderbilt or something or other?
19:37 < niv> yes
19:38 < aliguori> VT is the new name
19:38 < niv> vanderpool technology
19:38 < niv> more correctly
19:38 < newsham> that is supported in xen-unstable?
19:38 < aliguori> newsham: yup
19:38 < tab> newsham: yes
19:38 < niv> unstable being the operative word
19:38 < newsham> :)
19:38 < niv> :)
19:38 < newsham> just reading through some tools trying to figure out how these bits tie together
19:38 < niv> but chances are, you don't have the hw
19:39 < newsham> i'm sure I dont :)
19:39 < movement> glad I'm not the only one who keeps accidentally saying "vanderbilt"
19:40 < newsham> heh
19:40 < newsham> maybe amd can call theirs vanderbilt ;-)
19:40 < movement> nah, "pacifica" sounds better. and is better...
19:41 < tab> but hardware is still not available
19:41 < tab> (for pacifica)
19:41 < newsham> ok, so since people are alive and awake now :)    How does pygrub fit in to the domain creation?  Is there a special builder for it?
19:42 < aliguori> pygrub is a kernel selector
19:42 < newsham> have you ever been to pacifica?
19:42 < aliguori> it reads the selected filesystem for a grub.conf file and presents options to use a specified kernel/initrd
19:43 < newsham> so is pygrub an interactive utility that you run from the shell prompt then?
19:43 < newsham> and what is its relation to 'xm create'?  does it get run by xm at some point?  does it invoke xm?
19:44 < aliguori> oh i'm not sure how it integrates with xm..
19:44 < aliguori> i know it's invoked by xm at some point
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19:46 < newsham> so my real question is this -- is pygrub meant to replace some of the builders (by having a single builder that can be shared by multiple types of systems)?  and if not, what is its purpose?
19:48 < aliguori> newsham: the idea is for domains to be able manage their own kernel and booting properties. for instance, a distro may want to manage it's own domU kernel
19:49 < newsham> ... so the kernel comes off the disk image instead of the host's disk..
19:50 < aliguori> yup
19:51 < newsham> ok, so that is likely what I will want :)   any idea on how to make that happen?
19:51 < niv> newsham: you'd make an excellent candidate to update the user manual, perhaps on some of these excellent questions, perhaps? :) :)
19:51 < newsham> I grepped around and didnt find any mention of grub in xm and only one tiny reference in the libxc
19:51 < aliguori> newsham: nope :-)  although there's a README with pygrub
19:51 < newsham> niv: if I knew how to write and I knew the answers I might ;-)
19:51 < niv> newsham: I'm in the process of trying to collect updates for the manual, which as you might guess, is sorely out of date
19:52 < newsham> there is indeed a README, but it is not targetted towards people with my questions :)
19:52 < niv> newsham: no worries on writing skills, I'll rewrite :)
19:53 < niv> Yes, the point is to make it easier for users and cover a lot of this stuff
19:53 < newsham> os.popen("netstat -nat").readlines()    ugh :)
19:53 < niv> newsham: if you have questions that you want to see answered feel free to throw them out here, and I'll collect responses :)
19:54 < newsham> niv: sure.  be careful what you ask for though :)
19:54 < newsham> (btw, my cat's name is nivek, or "niv" for short.  good name :)
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19:55 < niv> newsham: hmm, that bodes well for favors requested :)
19:55 < newsham> so it looks like VNC support is somewhat integrated.  does this mean VNC is the preferred way to view user domains' graphically?
19:57 < niv> I think there was talk of using screen..has anyone tried?
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20:05 < newsham> screen the pty multiplexer?  to connect to several consoles ina  single app?
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20:10 < niv> yep
20:13 < newsham> so it looks like pygrub reads info from a disk image, creates a /tmp file on the host and then spits out some sexprs with info about it.
20:13 < newsham> I dont see anything that actually invokes the machine, perhaps its incomplete as yet
20:14 < newsham> i'm guessing it will eventually call down to create the machine directly in a way similar to what xm create does.
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20:30 < newsham> do kernels that ran on xen2.0 still work in xen-unstable?
20:31 < surriel> newsham: no
20:31 < newsham> is there a list of relevant changes somewhere?
20:31 < surriel> not afaik
20:32 < newsham> know examples of things that changed that affect kernel binary compat?
20:33 < surriel> the kernel <-> hypervisor interface totally changed ;)
20:33 < surriel> there's SMP
20:34 < surriel> highmem (page addresses communicated as pfns instead)
20:36 < newsham> ahh, I thought the changes were primarily dom0<->hypervisor control stuff
20:36 < newsham> so the hypervisor calls are different now?  different shared mem structs?
20:37 < niv> also grant tables
20:37 < newsham> what's a grant table?
20:39 < niv> it's the mechanism being used to share data across vms
20:39  * tessier wishes he could get xen working on his rhel4 box
20:39 < tessier> Sure would be nice to have a bunch more development machines
20:40 < surriel> RHEL4 runs fine inside domU
20:40 < surriel> you just need to run with a xenU kernel
20:40 < niv> newsham: docs/misc/grant-tables.txt (not sure how in sync with code the doc is, though)
20:41 < newsham> danke
20:41 < tessier> I know it *should* run fine. But mine doesn't. It's been a few weeks since I have messed with it. Maybe I'll take another look at it today.
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20:48 < enum> bah
20:48 < enum> date wont change in this system
20:49 < enum> anyone know how to change the date in a RHEL domU?
20:49 < enum> it wont stick
21:02 < newsham> thats because user domains dont get to set the clock, isnt it?
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