Additional IP addresses

Hi, I may be looking to acquire an additional IP address or two for SSL or rate-limited APIs… assuming I can manage to route outgoing traffic through a particular address. Trouble is, I'm a tinkerer and have no idea if/when I'd get around to actually doing something with it. Does anybody get in trouble if I provide justifcation and don't follow it through?

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Alternatively you could just wait until you REALLY need them to buy them. They don't take long to come though. (Linode support, as you probably know, is pretty fast).

Last time I asked for an IP address linode asked me to have my ssl certs in place in 14 days (I think, maybe it was 7) anyway I assume they check to see if anything is using ssl on your ip after that time and if it's not they will ask you to hurry along.

Best thing to do is what GLaDOSDan said, it'll take 5 minutes for you to get a second ip.

Hi.

I myself, have not had the experience of asking for another IP, since I would just purchase multiple nodes with IPs on them as it is probably.

But I do advise doing what you were suggested to do, in any case.

Don't purchase them and do nothing with them..

That's the best thing to do I think.

If I can help out with anything else, let me know.

@obs:

Last time I asked for an IP address linode asked me to have my ssl certs in place in 14 days (I think, maybe it was 7) anyway I assume they check to see if anything is using ssl on your ip after that time and if it's not they will ask you to hurry along.

Best thing to do is what GLaDOSDan said, it'll take 5 minutes for you to get a second ip.

It's 14 days

No problem, two weeks is long enough. I have another question, is anonymity from IP grouping domain records a technically justifiable reason?

You'll have to ask support for that, I've only ever requested for SSL.

I thought I was, I never encountered another forum where Pre-sales questions aren't actively addressed by the staff.

Anyway, I emailed and the answer is unsurprisingly "no". I suppose the obvious solution is to flip login/registration over to SSL and dodge grouping as a bonus.

I was under the impression that you can still get 2 IP addresses per Linode with no problems, no justification, and it is just more than 2 per that needs a good reason.

A while back I added one with no problems, did my testing, then dropped it after a few days. Got my $.75 refund applied to my next bill :).

@TygerTyger:

No problem, two weeks is long enough. I have another question, is anonymity from IP grouping domain records a technically justifiable reason?

No, this is not a valid justification.

@tasaro:

@TygerTyger:

No problem, two weeks is long enough. I have another question, is anonymity from IP grouping domain records a technically justifiable reason?

No, this is not a valid justification.

aww damn :( I was just about to issue a support ticket for that. Just wanted to keep some of my sites private from others

But following up on what bryantrv.. I thought we were allowed to have 2 IP address per Linode without any problems… but I just tried to add a second one and I was told to issue a support ticket :-/

@techman:

@tasaro:

@TygerTyger:

No problem, two weeks is long enough. I have another question, is anonymity from IP grouping domain records a technically justifiable reason?

No, this is not a valid justification.

aww damn :( I was just about to issue a support ticket for that. Just wanted to keep some of my sites private from others

But following up on what bryantrv.. I thought we were allowed to have 2 IP address per Linode without any problems… but I just tried to add a second one and I was told to issue a support ticket :-/

how is a separate IP going to keep your sites private?

It's possible to list other domains that share the IP address of a chosen site. If the list of sites sharing an address is small then it's easy to connect them and there are situations where it's not appropriate for that to happen.

@TygerTyger:

It's possible to list other domains that share the IP address of a chosen site. If the list of sites sharing an address is small then it's easy to connect them and there are situations where it's not appropriate for that to happen.

this happens with shared hosting all the time, like hundreds of domains on the same IP.

@TygerTyger:

It's possible to list other domains that share the IP address of a chosen site. If the list of sites sharing an address is small then it's easy to connect them and there are situations where it's not appropriate for that to happen.

@techman:

I thought we were allowed to have 2 IP address per Linode without any problems… but I just tried to add a second one and I was told to issue a support ticket :-/
I thought so, too. I was also told to issue a support ticket when I tried (as a test) to add an extra IP address to one of my Dallas Linodes, as well as to my London Linode.

Then again, without being sure, the fact that my other Linode in Dallas already has an extra IP address might have something to do with it (which is currently used to serve two different DNS nameservers for two different companies).

it used to be 2 ip addresses without justification, it changed to 1 around the time the ipv4 addresses ran out.

anyway, if you want an extra ip, and the only justification allowed is an ssl cert, go buy a $10/year rapidssl cert. So it costs you $2/month/ip instead of $1.

I'd assume for an extra $20/month they will give you another IP address with no questions asked (it just happens to come with with some free extras). There must be a price point where no justification would be needed if you don't need the extra disk, cpu and bandwidth. Somewhere between $1 and $20 per month.

> There must be a price point where no justification would be needed if you don't need the extra disk, cpu and bandwidth. Somewhere between $1 and $20 per month.

Doubt it, at least with the Linode crew. You're talking about a resource that is very limited now and they can no longer purchase additional IPs. Linode isn't like a shared host who can just keep adding accounts to a single server with a shared IP.

Once Linode runs out of IPv4 IPs, they are done being able to sign up new accounts unless they start offering and someone wants an IPv6 only Linode and doesn't care that 99% of the world won't see them for years to come… or IPv4 addresses are going to be very expensive to purchase as they are going to become a very valuable commodity.

So to me, requiring true justification other than "privacy" is the right thing to do.

@waldo:

So to me, requiring true justification other than "privacy" is the right thing to do.
Understand. I was just pointing out the obvious that they are a business and would gladly give me 1000 more IP addresses without justification as long as I shell out $20/month for each Linode (which includes an IP). Their current price point for not caring why I horde IP addresses is $20/month per IP.

@jeffml:

@waldo:

So to me, requiring true justification other than "privacy" is the right thing to do.
Understand. I was just pointing out the obvious that they are a business and would gladly give me 1000 more IP addresses without justification as long as I shell out $20/month for each Linode (which includes an IP). Their current price point for not caring why I horde IP addresses is $20/month per IP.

It's not so much Linode rules as they are ARIN rules.

Just google arin linode justification and you'll see things like http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=4012&start=0

So do Linode only have a small pool of IPv4s available then?

It seems strange that their competitors will quite happily dish them out without the caution that Linode seems to apply.

@Mr Nod:

So do Linode only have a small pool of IPv4s available then?

It seems strange that their competitors will quite happily dish them out without the caution that Linode seems to apply.

Linode obeys the rules set by the regional internet registries (ARIN, RIPE). Their competitors, not so much.

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